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ripcord

(5,491 posts)
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:13 PM Jan 2022

And people say I shouldn't go to Walmart

I do car pickup when I shop at Walmart but there was a problem and I had to go into pick it up. As I come out there is a commotion it seems an anti masker was railing at the police, she was claiming that Walmart was public property and she couldn't be asked to wear a mask or be asked to leave. The police kept telling her that only government owned buildings are public property, her answer was she walked though the door so it was public. She went on about the Constitution and her rights, then she started going off on the cops saying she can't believe how stupid they are and that they need to go back to the academy to be retrained. They gave her several more warnings that she had been trespassed but she wouldn't leave so I got to watch her resisting the police and finally get literally stuffed into the back of the patrol car swearing like a sailor the whole time, all this was missing was popcorn.

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And people say I shouldn't go to Walmart (Original Post) ripcord Jan 2022 OP
And as a bonus, Walmart's will ban her for life too, if they follow the usual pattern. SWBTATTReg Jan 2022 #1
As well they should. Anyone that ignorant shouldn't be allowed to leave their home. Shrike47 Jan 2022 #3
You got free entertainment bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #2
It sucks living in a heavily red area ripcord Jan 2022 #4
Where was this, may I ask? CurtEastPoint Jan 2022 #6
Hesperia, California ripcord Jan 2022 #7
Hysteria, California. Lived there for 20 yrs, finally escaped. Family members still there. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2022 #37
That's where my adopted rescued dog was found! C Moon Jan 2022 #67
lol Cha Jan 2022 #59
Wow, another "extremely online" MAGA Constitutional scholar. keep_left Jan 2022 #5
Donald Trump School of Lawlessness BaronChocula Jan 2022 #28
I live in a red area, and our Walmart hands out masks at the door. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #8
It was nice of Wal*Mart to provide entertainment. lpbk2713 Jan 2022 #9
And her degree in Public Relations from Craigslist. nt littlemissmartypants Jan 2022 #44
Walmart: Come for the sales; stay for the arrests. n/t sarge43 Jan 2022 #66
I boycott Wal*Fart because they under pay employees and are owned by far-right Trumpers. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #10
Same here. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #11
And be thankful that you are so fortunate. Not everyone is. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2022 #12
Why not read about what employees say and expand Hortensis Jan 2022 #13
I sat down with a paper and pencil DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #40
My first house in 1971: 16,000. Two stories, nice lot, three bedrooms, college town. erronis Jan 2022 #55
RE: My first house in 1971: 16,000. Two stories, nice lot, three bedrooms, college town. discocrisco01 Jan 2022 #82
Agree! I've had the same experience. I dropped out of high school Hortensis Jan 2022 #86
Mall-wart's wage and employee turnover rate.... albacore Jan 2022 #84
And your point as it pertains to this thread is what radicalleft Jan 2022 #15
And your point as it pertains to this thread is what L. Coyote Jan 2022 #30
Having a bad day? LuckyCharms Jan 2022 #61
Not at all... radicalleft Jan 2022 #77
does seem to be kinda' the point, huh? stopdiggin Jan 2022 #74
I don't know if that's true anymore. My daughter started at Wally World in August.$1875 per hour. 3Hotdogs Jan 2022 #22
At least in my area they certainly pay their employees better than mom and pop stores cinematicdiversions Jan 2022 #26
Walmart is a publicly traded corporation. George II Jan 2022 #31
The Chairman of Wal-Mart isn't a far right Trumper onenote Jan 2022 #62
Costco online ordering & delivery has worked well for me. Not sure if it is available everywhere Ziggysmom Jan 2022 #14
Damn, that's beautiful! lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #16
I begrudgingly go to walmart every couple of weeks jcgoldie Jan 2022 #17
I'll just bet she has read the Constitution pandr32 Jan 2022 #18
Read? That's a stretch. erronis Jan 2022 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2022 #19
I haven't been in a Walmart since pre pandemic. nt yaesu Jan 2022 #20
2002. Once that year. b4 that - 1998. Tommymac Jan 2022 #45
That's where I got my booster. xmas74 Jan 2022 #54
Huh. I thought her type was all for Backing the Blue. Moebym Jan 2022 #21
Love this ... :) ificandream Jan 2022 #23
Sounds like one of those "1st Amendment Auditors" or "Sovereign Citizen" types. LoisB Jan 2022 #24
1st Amendment Auditors usually are well versed on the law. NutmegYankee Jan 2022 #43
I apologize. I should have said the fake 1st Amendment "auditors" who just want to make money LoisB Jan 2022 #53
Reason # 1,439,391 while I will never visit a Wal-Mart. Aristus Jan 2022 #25
Netflix needs to make a MAGA Meltdown series. CaptainTruth Jan 2022 #27
White woman Traildogbob Jan 2022 #29
A very healthy approach to your surrounds and life! Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #35
A very reasoned approach to your wonderful (and personally awful) area erronis Jan 2022 #58
Roger that Traildogbob Jan 2022 #63
Dammit,Ripcord, we need a video packman Jan 2022 #32
That would be great YouTube (or whatever) Evolve Dammit Jan 2022 #33
These delusional idiots think they're fighting for civil rights or something IronLionZion Jan 2022 #34
Interesting take on the legality DFW Jan 2022 #36
"She's a candidate". Yes - that fits the bill. Be a lout-enough (stet) bitch and you can run erronis Jan 2022 #60
Popcorn and "Go Karen" cheerleaders WillUSAF Jan 2022 #38
They do the poor pitiful me routine, then switch into total asshole mode when they can't... Crowman2009 Jan 2022 #39
Bravo for the Police! True Blue American Jan 2022 #41
oh maaaaan its days like this I wish we had a walmart samnsara Jan 2022 #42
SO, If you have seen it all....THERE IS ALWAYS MORE!!!! and MORE!!!...even MORE!!!! Stuart G Jan 2022 #46
They don't even recognize their own ignorance. Joinfortmill Jan 2022 #47
So, essentially, she begged them to arrest her. patphil Jan 2022 #48
Sounds like an epic performance.. Permanut Jan 2022 #49
Where I live more people inside are maskless than not. appleannie1 Jan 2022 #50
I'm reasonably sure Walmart HAS 🍿! dchill Jan 2022 #51
Why does it always seem like it is women doing this. The Jungle 1 Jan 2022 #52
Go Police!.. Here's your Popcorn! Cha Jan 2022 #57
A Sovereign-Citizen who got her law-degree from Youtube! NurseJackie Jan 2022 #64
Did the cops gag her? I would have. Hassler Jan 2022 #65
There's a price to pay The Wizard Jan 2022 #68
The Cray-Cray is strong in this one... Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #69
Funny how the MAGAt-fascists love it when cops beat down brown people in fascist violence, Rabrrrrrr Jan 2022 #70
If that sort of thing tickles you, follow this link... pecosbob Jan 2022 #71
Sounds like you got to see an episode of "Cops" live and in person! llmart Jan 2022 #72
It would great if there was a YouTube channel OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2022 #73
She'll be on Schrodinger's Cat's channel by next week. 'I'm a sovereign citizen!' Bzzzt.. GoneOffShore Jan 2022 #75
Poor woman. Sounds more like she is in severe need of a mental evaluation and cstanleytech Jan 2022 #76
Hate Walmart and that samplegirl Jan 2022 #78
Entitled toddlers whose tantrums get other people FailureToCommunicate Jan 2022 #79
Wondering if she goes to school board meetings too. . Emile Jan 2022 #80
Never shop at Walmart DownriverDem Jan 2022 #81
I've been watching "Karen in the Wild" videos. crim son Jan 2022 #83
Here in dumbass blood red SW AZ not fooled Jan 2022 #85
If you think that was entertaining, have you ever been to www.peopleofwalmart.com? OMGWTF Jan 2022 #87
I've seen a lot of things on the Internet, Piasladic Jan 2022 #88

keep_left

(1,789 posts)
5. Wow, another "extremely online" MAGA Constitutional scholar.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

She no doubt got her degree from Reddit or TheDonaldDotWin. (Spelled that last one out, no need to give them a link).

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
8. I live in a red area, and our Walmart hands out masks at the door.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:27 PM
Jan 2022

Never seen anyone refuse, but I don’t stand there to watch. I do see unmasked in the store, but for the most part, most people are staying masked.

We’re a peaceful little town though.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
10. I boycott Wal*Fart because they under pay employees and are owned by far-right Trumpers.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jan 2022

I shop at employee-owned businesses and co-ops.

2naSalit

(86,742 posts)
11. Same here.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:36 PM
Jan 2022

We also have lots of small mom&pops around, I make a point of shopping there instead. Of course, I have to go for a bit of a drive over to the next county to find a big box store so I have an advantage there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Why not read about what employees say and expand
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:45 PM
Jan 2022

your knowledge? Although average U.S. pay these days is underpay in my estimation as well, Walmart pays somewhat over average rate for the kind of jobs we see being performed, and overall employees report it's not a bad place to work.

It's amazing that more people haven't started employee-owned/cooperative businesses given how many say they want socialization; there are several hundred in the U.S., so it's not impossible. And federal and many state government programs offer substantial financial assistance to those business types.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
40. I sat down with a paper and pencil
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 04:13 PM
Jan 2022

and listed what I made when I was twenty, in a decent job and I can still remember the amounts of what I wrote checks for every month. Then I wrote down what the same job was paying today, and the prices of the basics we all pay every month.

Wow, was that ever revealing. No wonder the kids can't buy a house in today's world...............

And the worse thing? We lived on my salary alone. Today TWO salaries can't cut it...........

erronis

(15,324 posts)
55. My first house in 1971: 16,000. Two stories, nice lot, three bedrooms, college town.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 06:12 PM
Jan 2022

Young wife's parents helped us out with a $2,000 loan.

Even given inflation, this just can't happen anymore. The greedies have taken over real estate.

discocrisco01

(1,666 posts)
82. RE: My first house in 1971: 16,000. Two stories, nice lot, three bedrooms, college town.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 09:27 AM
Jan 2022

Federal Reserve printing too much money to speculate on things.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
86. Agree! I've had the same experience. I dropped out of high school
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:35 PM
Jan 2022

in my teens to go to work full time and was able to support myself. State and local college was affordable, and social mobility was comparatively wide open.

I was blessed by the golden conditions that still prevailed toward the end of the liberal-dominated New Deal era.

Today, toward the end (we hope) of the conservative/business dominated era that followed, things are terrible for young people taking similarly un- or low-skill jobs.

Today is also after an intervening 40 years of enormous wealth creation due to technological advances. America is far wealthier now than in the 1950s-60s. When I dropped out of high school, there were no centimillionaire and billionaire classes.

Note what Nancy calls for below. This subject always makes me angry at the damned lying liars who claim Democrats are like Republicans, and the useful LW idiots who believe them. Republicans are a minority and couldn't have done it without generations of useful idiots.

albacore

(2,402 posts)
84. Mall-wart's wage and employee turnover rate....
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 11:24 AM
Jan 2022

Walmart's average wage is $16.40 (Sept. 2021)
44% per year. Costco's is just 6% after one year’s employment.

"'Permanent' for Walmart may not mean what many people think it means.....as store associates often have turnover of between 50% and 100%, meaning that typical tenure is one to two years."
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2021/sep/30/walmart-on-hunt-for-more-workers/

radicalleft

(480 posts)
15. And your point as it pertains to this thread is what
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:47 PM
Jan 2022

Or are here to show how truly progressive you are?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
30. And your point as it pertains to this thread is what
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:35 PM
Jan 2022

Or are here to show how truly progressive you aren't?

radicalleft

(480 posts)
77. Not at all...
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 06:48 AM
Jan 2022

Just hate the "holier than thou" attitudes of people who just have to show how enlightened they are...

3Hotdogs

(12,396 posts)
22. I don't know if that's true anymore. My daughter started at Wally World in August.$1875 per hour.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jan 2022

In December, she got promoted to pharmacy technologist. Now making over $25 per hour and another raise coming when she passes the state pharmacy assistant test.


Not fully part of this discussion.... then the other tech got sick. She worked 12 days straight, roughly 40 hours at time and 1/2.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
26. At least in my area they certainly pay their employees better than mom and pop stores
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:15 PM
Jan 2022

I mean it isn't Costco wages but certainly better than what small businesses pay.

Ziggysmom

(3,409 posts)
14. Costco online ordering & delivery has worked well for me. Not sure if it is available everywhere
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jan 2022

for grocery items though.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. Damn, that's beautiful!
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:47 PM
Jan 2022


So, when I break in to her front door, her house becomes public property?

Good to know.

jcgoldie

(11,636 posts)
17. I begrudgingly go to walmart every couple of weeks
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:51 PM
Jan 2022

I always swore I wouldn’t but they raised the price of beer a couple of bucks at the grocery store and I drink too much not to be thrifty on that product…

I almost always see some interesting shit from people in there and I usually wish I hadn’t… 😕

Response to ripcord (Original post)

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
43. 1st Amendment Auditors usually are well versed on the law.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 04:22 PM
Jan 2022

And know not to resist. Their goal is to win big on the 42 US Code § 1983 suit.

LoisB

(7,221 posts)
53. I apologize. I should have said the fake 1st Amendment "auditors" who just want to make money
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 05:51 PM
Jan 2022

on YouTube. I recognize that there are legitimate 1st Amendment Auditors out there.

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
25. Reason # 1,439,391 while I will never visit a Wal-Mart.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jan 2022

Sounds like the kind of person who gets married at a Wal-Mart, which is another discussion for another time...

CaptainTruth

(6,599 posts)
27. Netflix needs to make a MAGA Meltdown series.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:15 PM
Jan 2022

Just collections of videos of incidents like this. It would be one of my favorite shows.

Traildogbob

(8,790 posts)
29. White woman
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:33 PM
Jan 2022

And they are all about rights, white rights. Even making em up on site. Like mentioned above. Some areas have only on choice. Wally World or the Dollar Store. In a tourist primary area in WNC all small businesses are dedicated to extremely wealthy tourists. No one here can afford or needs their inventory. Google Art Pope, heir of dollar stores. Right wing trump humping billionaire. Check out their employee wages and benefits not to mention the crappy shit they sell. In my relatively small county, there are approximately 15 dollar stores. One Wally World. So, I triple mask, choose safest hours, get what I need about once a month, and laugh under my masks at the supreme race of white folk in there. Always healthy to laugh. And, we have about a dozen gun stores, probably 40 churches. Mark Meadows and now Cawthorn’s district. Other than that I have thousands of acres of forests and wild areas to hike. Don’t even need to drive. Can bushwhack up to unlimited trailess Forested mountains. So I put up with once a month Wally entertainment.

erronis

(15,324 posts)
58. A very reasoned approach to your wonderful (and personally awful) area
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 06:20 PM
Jan 2022

I've also lived in places where the natural resources and beauty were worth the hassles with the hicks that live in the surrounding towns.

All along the Appalachia spine there are places of beauty and some people that think it's where they throw their trash.


Traildogbob

(8,790 posts)
63. Roger that
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 06:38 PM
Jan 2022

Native (white) people of such amazing surroundings Care the least about it. Our Natural Resources Division at the college orchestrated with students a biannual stream cleanup, through town, and each cleanup of the 4 mile stretch took out 3,000 pounds of garbage, for 20+ years I worked there. The rural areas were much worse, with appliances and tires. And trash left in Shinning Rock Wilderness is just sickening. The worst are from hunters. Many of my backpacking trips had me carrying out more weight, their trash, than I walked in with. I still remember the commercial of the Native American with years from discarded trash and river pollution and its destruction. It’s gotten worse after all the environmental legislation passed through the 70’s. That generation of “Earth Ranger’s” has long gone. The ones dumping trash and fine with refrigerators in the rivers, are not liberals. It’s ignorant fools that think it’s freedom to through trash where ya want. Best part of not using trails and adventuring out in the real wild, no trash, no people. Just me and my two black labs. But then once a month, a needed Walmart March back into reality.

DFW

(54,426 posts)
36. Interesting take on the legality
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:56 PM
Jan 2022

I guess she thought that if she put on a big enough show, free to the public, then it was, by definition, a public place. With her performance, she had transferred ownership from the Walton family to herself, and then on to her community. Oops, she's a communist!

Well, OK, no, she's a candidate for the nearest psychiatric evaluation office of the public defender, but who's quibbling over details?

erronis

(15,324 posts)
60. "She's a candidate". Yes - that fits the bill. Be a lout-enough (stet) bitch and you can run
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jan 2022

for any office. Even the peeResident!

Crowman2009

(2,499 posts)
39. They do the poor pitiful me routine, then switch into total asshole mode when they can't...
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 04:11 PM
Jan 2022

...get their way.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
41. Bravo for the Police!
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 04:19 PM
Jan 2022

Those people walking at Walmart are hard working, some older who need the income and hard working teens who never fail to be polite if I aske them a question, willing to joke. Most are headed for College.

patphil

(6,196 posts)
48. So, essentially, she begged them to arrest her.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jan 2022

I guess she didn't have anything else to do that day, so she opted for a ride in a police car.
Humm, the stupid is strong in this one, yes.

Permanut

(5,619 posts)
49. Sounds like an epic performance..
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 05:13 PM
Jan 2022

She hit all the basic right wing wacko talking points. Should give Karen lessons.

appleannie1

(5,068 posts)
50. Where I live more people inside are maskless than not.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 05:17 PM
Jan 2022

I have to go there for my prescriptions, which I cut to 3 month instead of 1 to cut the times I have to by a third, but my mask is in the minority group. Since omicron I double mask. Surgical mask covered by a cloth mask is my new get up for forays outside my house. I am also back to sanitizing everything I buy before bringing it into my house. I also carry a small spray bottle of alcohol in case I have to use a restroom. I even sanitize my shoes before entering my car. You should see the stares I get by the maskless bunch of omicron spreaders when I do that. At my age, with my health issues, I can't be too careful so I mentally give them all the finger salute.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,351 posts)
70. Funny how the MAGAt-fascists love it when cops beat down brown people in fascist violence,
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 09:42 PM
Jan 2022

but when the same police are actually following the law and applying it to those selfsame MAGAt-fascists, they get all snowflaky and assholey.

They'll wave their guns in the air screaming "Blue Lives Matter!!!!" but as soon as one tries to stop them during an insurrection, or trying to get into WalMart, or on an airplane, they sure do fucking hate the blue and have no respect for it.

llmart

(15,548 posts)
72. Sounds like you got to see an episode of "Cops" live and in person!
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 10:32 PM
Jan 2022

All I had for entertainment today was the new season of "Ozark".

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
73. It would great if there was a YouTube channel
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 02:15 AM
Jan 2022

With nothing but magats screaming while being arrested for refusing to wear a mask. It could be covid therapy.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
75. She'll be on Schrodinger's Cat's channel by next week. 'I'm a sovereign citizen!' Bzzzt..
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 03:26 AM
Jan 2022

Lucky she didn't get tased.

cstanleytech

(26,308 posts)
76. Poor woman. Sounds more like she is in severe need of a mental evaluation and
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 03:47 AM
Jan 2022

to perhaps be placed in a mental institution for treatment until she is no longer a danger.
Either that or jail.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,019 posts)
79. Entitled toddlers whose tantrums get other people
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 07:31 AM
Jan 2022

arrested…or killed.

“Karens”

In a Walmart parking lot we watched as a Karen in pink baggy sweatpants struggled to make her handgun stay in her saggy waistband when she got out of her car. After a few moments of chuckling about her difficulties, we decided maybe we really didn’t need to shop there.

DownriverDem

(6,230 posts)
81. Never shop at Walmart
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 09:14 AM
Jan 2022

I don't do Chick Fil A or Hobby Lobby either. I can't go along with their beliefs and I have alternatives for shopping.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
83. I've been watching "Karen in the Wild" videos.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 11:11 AM
Jan 2022

Your incident sounds just like one of those. What amazes me, is that law enforcement often takes the time to listen to the crazy person for much longer than I would. As soon as they started their sovereign citizen rant and made the inevitable claim that they knew the law better than I, I'd ask them once more to confirm they were not willing to leave, then put on the cuffs and haul them away.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
85. Here in dumbass blood red SW AZ
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jan 2022

the Walmart doesn't require masks. About 1/3-1/4 of shoppers wear them.

OMGWTF

(3,972 posts)
87. If you think that was entertaining, have you ever been to www.peopleofwalmart.com?
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jan 2022

I only shop there when there is no other choice. I last shopped in Walmart in 2009 when I asked a young man working there where the potting soil was. He burst into tears and said that after three years of abuse, he just couldn't take working there anymore. any place that has a large percentage of its employees on public assistance, and who has a Thanksgiving food drive FOR ITS EMPLOYEES is one totally fked-up company IMHO.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
88. I've seen a lot of things on the Internet,
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jan 2022

but I think that link actually injured my brain. I had to stop at the headline "Woman does karate, son gets nude, dog steals cornbread mix from Walmart, police say."

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