In praise of Meatloaf

[Yandex]

I had gotten out of the Navy just before he became big. I was young, single, hard bodied and ready to go and he was my groups fav. The man had talent.

I came not to bury Meatloaf, but to praise him! I'm glad he existed.

[mahina]

1. Is this this a private fight

Or can anyone join?

[smirkymonkey]

2. I have to be honest, I just don't get all this Meatloaf worship.

I found him vulgar, misogynistic and disgusting when he was alive and my opinion hasn't changed.

I'm not going to dance on his grave, but I really don't understand why so many people here love him.

[Yandex]

3. I didn't see him as misogynistic or disgusting. Vulgar yes n/t

[rso]

4. Meatloaf

No tears for the trumpster.

[ms liberty]

5. He had an amazing voice when he was younger and

Also had decent acting skills. It's too bad he was stupid.

[ARPad95]

6. Meat Loaf (two words) and he was very touchy about it.

[Yandex]

7. I should have known that n/t

[ARPad95]

8. Dan Rather interviewed him in 2016.

He seemed normal to me.

[Yandex]

9. Cool, thx n/t

[Celerity]

10. fuck that RW POS antivaxxer

[Scrivener7]

11. You beat me to it!

[Celerity]

13. lucky timing, lol, I am often late to the party

[Ferrets are Cool]

12. Thank you

Any rightwinger can go straight to hell. Fuck um.

[Yandex]

15. Bravely spoken. n/t

[Yandex]

14. Good for you

I liked his music and he's gone now

[Ferrets are Cool]

17. You are free to like anyone you wish. I am free to despise ALL rightwingers.

With a white-hot passion.

[Yandex]

18. May I know your age? n/t

[Ferrets are Cool]

19. Not sure why it's relevant, but I am 65

[Swede]

42. Yandex has an odd name. A very famous Russian search engine is called Yandex.

I've been following his posts, and he subtly and not so subtly does stir the post here on DU.

[Piasladic]

48. +1

I agree

[Ferrets are Cool]

67. Yeah, I am figuring that out.

Thanks

[Celerity]

20. There is a disturbing trend for people to excuse people if they like their artistic output

I have seen it done here with that racist git Clapton as well, for instance.

In this case (Loaf) that doesn't even enter the equation for me as I do not like his music. Clapton the same. I dislike classic rock (which I understand is heresy on this board for a majority of posters more than likely).

[Yandex]

22. Should music, writing, art be banned if someone violates your standards? n/t

[Celerity]

23. lol, you win strawman of the year (granted only 22 days in) with that comment

[Yandex]

26. I thought that was what you meant by "excusing" or not excusing n/t

[Celerity]

35. Since when does not excusing mean that one therefore wishes to ban? I never once said ban his music.

[uppityperson]

25. Who, besides you, use talking about banning?

[Yandex]

27. What does "excusing" mean? n/t

[uppityperson]

31. Oxford language dictionary

1.
attempt to lessen the blame attaching to (a fault or offense); seek to defend or justify.
"he did nothing to hide or excuse Jacob's cruelty"

[Yandex]

34. So who was seeking to lessen the blame? n/t

[uppityperson]

38. "people" nt

[Yandex]

40. Thanks for clearing that up. n/t

[uppityperson]

43. Here is the quote. See? People.

"There is a disturbing trend for people to excuse people if they like their artistic output"

[Yandex]

46. Who, of these "people" you speak, is excusing Meat Loaf?

You don't have to answer if you don't want

[uppityperson]

50. Try this post, start of this subthread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16274167

[Yandex]

51. Again, and you don't have to answer,

Who is doing the "excusing"?

?????

[uppityperson]

55. Again, same answer as prior. People. And the same link.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16274167

[Yandex]

57. Hmmmmm n/t

[uppityperson]

60. NT n/t

[Piasladic]

53. I'm guessing English isn't your strong suit -nt

[Yandex]

56. ok n/t

[Scrivener7]

33. Why do you ask? Are you going to "ban" him?

[USALiberal]

73. His music didn't disappear remember. I don't get it. Nt

[ARPad95]

21. Where did he broadcast RW antivaxxer views? I just checked what appears to be his official Twitter

page and there are no tweets after 2019. Maybe I don't see anything more recent because I'm not on Twitter.

[Celerity]

24. Google is your freind

[Yandex]

29. Do you have any evidence Meat Loaf was not vaxxed? n/t

[ARPad95]

59. That's how I got to his Twitter account. I just finished looking over his FB page and again I

did not see any antivaxxer posts by him. Nothing.

Off to see if there are any videos of him with antivaxxer words coming out of his mouth.

[Yandex]

65. I haven't found any evidence either n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

54. You can check out his Herman Cain Awards entry.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/s9elvm/his_name_was_meatloaf_prominent_antiva_antimask/

[ARPad95]

70. Thank you, but there's nothing there either.

Edited to add this ML quote from August 2021:

You do? You're not afraid?

Oh, I’m scared to death! You kidding me? But I'm sorry, I understood stopping life for a little while, but they cannot continue to stop life because of politics. And right now they're stopping because of politics. And on CNN last night, it finally came out that the masks we’re all wearing are useless. But I've known that for six months. They don't do anything. They don't stop you from getting COVID. They're just a nuisance and make your nose itch and make it so you can't breathe.

The only good masks are N95. But we got one, and it was so badly made, the straps were so short, they would go on a child. So we had to go on the airplane with the paper masks and then on the way back, we got a Nazi: “Get your mask on now!” They’re power-mad now.

https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music/2021/08/09/Meat-Loaf-Steel-City-Con-Pittsburgh-interview-Bat-Out-of-Hell-Jim-Steinman-2021/stories/202108090006

Still nothing antivaxxer in the quote and he isn't against mask wearing either, just low quality cloth, paper and ill-fitting N95 ones.

[Yandex]

32. Do you have any evidence Meat Loaf was not vaxxed? n/t

[Baltimike]

16. 🎵 He would do anything for love, but he won't get vaxxed 🎵 nt

[Yandex]

30. Do you have any evidence Meat Loaf was not vaxxed? n/t

[uppityperson]

36. Link...

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/meat-loaf-covid-vaccine-death/

[Yandex]

39. That link doesn't say whether he was vaxxed or not.

For all you and I know he was vaxxed.

[uppityperson]

47. Do you have any evidence he was vaccinated?

[Yandex]

49. Answered in previous post n/t

[uppityperson]

52. No proof. Got it.

[Celerity]

69. +10000000000000000

[Scrivener7]

44. Oh, my God! This quote from that article:

Does anyone else feel too many people are dying all of a sudden? And maybe the vaccine & booster is why?

The stupidity of these people is absolutely colossal!

[Raine]

28. I'll always remember him from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show"

I went many times to the midnight showings, good times! 😁

[gldstwmn]

45. Yes. I have great memories of Rocky Horror. We used to go late on the weekends in high school.

It was such innocent fun.

[gldstwmn]

37. I've got to pour one out for Meat Loaf too.

His music is connected to a lo of memories. I can't help it.

[Tetrachloride]

41. Album cover art was great on Bat Out Of Hell

[Scrivener7]

58. They used to train you guys better.

[Celerity]

63. +10000000000000000

[Swede]

64. Kudos.

He's a trouble maker this Yandex.

[Celerity]

66. Yandex N.V. (Russian: Яндекс) is a multinational corporation primarily for Russian and

Russian-language users



https://yandex.ru/

[Swede]

68. He's stirring the pot here on DU.

I'm sure it's all a coincidence.

[Scrivener7]

71. Russian pizza has been delivered!!

[Crunchy Frog]

75. Sweet! I love watching a nice flameout in real time.

[Scrivener7]

77. Me too! It's the sprinkles on the cupcake that is Democratic Underground!

[Crunchy Frog]

78. LOL. 🤣🧁

[Crunchy Frog]

76. No wonder he was having so much trouble with English comprehension.

[Celerity]

79. this from the OP was so cringe

I had gotten out of the Navy just before he became big. I was young, single, hard bodied and ready to go

I think the Navy they spoke of was

нно-морской флот [ВМФ]

[DFW]

80. Interesting patch

"Тихоокеанский флот"

Literally, the fleet of the quiet ocean, or, in colloquial terms, the Pacific Ocean Fleet, probably based out of Vladivostok.

But, since I was never a fan of Mr. Loaf, as they say in Khabarovsk, мне всё равно, which, in Texan, translates out to "I don't give a rat's ass." Maybe they liked him at units 74455 or 26165 of the GRU, or they play his songs in the rest rooms at Savushkina Street 55 in SPB? Either way, I'd rather listen to the Osipov than Meat Loaf:

In the interest of disclosure, in college I played both in rock bands and with a balalaika orchestra, and the energy of the balalaika orchestra was unrivaled.

[Silent3]

61. With brown gravy, not tomato sauce

On the other current topic, I have no comment.

[Yandex]

62. Yes! n/t

[Scrivener7]

72. Yandex has left the building and gone back to Mother Russia!

He disrupted badly.

[ibegurpard]

74. Lots of textbook sealioning going on in here