Sinema Censured by AZ Democratic Party

[mobeau69]

MSNBC

[PortTack]

1. Been waiting hear that!! GREAT NEWS...recent polling of AZ Dems..her support with them 8%

[KS Toronado]

47. If her support is down to 8%

and she doesn't care, what the hell is she up to? Is someone paying her a lot of money under the table?

[PortTack]

58. Yes..if you go to opensecrets.com you can see all the donations has taken

She has also told ppl close to her that she thinks this is a winning platform to run as President

[quakerboy]

71. bet money theres more to it than donations

Think post elected office job offers. And look to family, friends, and personal finances.

[wackadoo wabbit]

76. It was 8% BEFORE she voted against the Voting Rights bill

I figure she's trying to see if she can be the first politician to get to 0%.

[Walleye]

2. She doesn't give a shit she is basking in the warm love of the GOP

[PortTack]

17. That's fine..come '24...she's gone!

[iluvtennis]

61. Indeed. And I regret the day I donated to her campaign when she ran in 2018. n/t

[soldierant]

79. You did then what you knew then.

Now that you know better, you'll do better.

[WinstonSmith4740]

64. Couldn't agree more.

However, what concerns me is her crossing the aisle and handing control to McTurtle. Even if the people of Arizona launched an immediate recall, it would still take months to get her out of there, and the damage the Rethugs could do in that space of time would be devastating.

If you've ever watch Stephanie Miller, she had a great line the other morning. She said she thought she had dated the most annoying blonde bi-sexual ever, but was obviously mistaken.

[NonPC]

73. Never Thought Shed'd Burn Us

We democrats here in AZ thought she'd represent our purple / blue interests. Turns out we were wrong -- she's representing her Pharma and Republican donors. She better make bank now and bask in her 15 minutes now, as she will be primaried when she's up for re-election.

[Fullduplexxx]

3. Good she's fkg useless

[TomDaisy]

4. GOOD. She'll probably run crying to Mitt or John Cornyn or Rand Paul, her BFFs

[TomDaisy]

5. Link to article here

Link to tweet

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[Cha]

51. Rt TY.. been wanting to see

any news from AZ Dems in a Tweet.

[asiliveandbreathe]

6. Yes, and a n0 confidence vote later..

In October, the ADP issued a resolution that urged Sinema to vote with the rest of her colleagues to abolish the Senate filibuster, which allows the minority party to block unfavorable legislation. They had also warned of a possible vote of no confidence should Sinema choose to uphold the filibuster.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-arizona-democratic-party-unanimously-voted-to-censure-sen-kyrsten-sinema-for-voting-to-uphold-the-filibuster/ar-AAT2xGz?ocid=uxbndlbing

[FakeNoose]

7. They are stuck with her for 5 more years unless ...

... she resigns or gets recalled by the Arizona voters.

[packman]

9. RECALL----

And I'll move to Arizona to sign it or send $ to help fund it

[flying_wahini]

10. I am thinking a recall is very possible.

I for one, would love to see her bank account and see who is paying her off.

[Salviati]

11. A recall is not possible.

There are no provisions for recalling senators under the law. The elections of senators is determined by federal law and the US constitution, which do not permit the recall of senators.

[Ford_Prefect]

33. I heard it was the DeVos family.

[AllaN01Bear]

37. All politicians are recallable. per a friend of mine who taught constition in school

[Celerity]

57. I assume this is sarcasm.

If not, your friend needs to read up on the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2), which blocks states from recalling US Congresspersons.

[Doc Sportello]

14. Can't recall a US Senator

"There is no constitutional authority to hold a special election that would be required to fill a seat in the event a member was recalled. Article I, section 4 of the Federal Constitution relating to the time for holding a regular election and Article XVII of the Amendments on holding a special election only when a vacancy exists combine to preclude an election to replace a member of Congress who had been recalled. Federal constitutional provisions supersede any state recall procedures for these offices.

The details of the argument are included in the attached Brief on the Constitutionality of the Recall of United States Senators and Representatives In Congress, prepared by Hon. Walter F. George, Chairman of the Committee on Privileges and Elections, United States Senate, on May 18, 1935."

[Takket]

20. i believe its only 3 years. her term is up at the start of 2025

[AZSkiffyGeek]

44. 3 more... She's up in 24

And there is no recall for Senators.

[wackadoo wabbit]

75. Unfortunately, she can't be recalled (nor can any senator)

I looked into this after she voted against raising the minimum wage.

[panader0]

8. I gotta admit that I'm nervous about Sinema and Manchin jumping to the GOP

before the 2022 elections. While I like seeing her spanked by the AZ Dem Party, it may push her away.

[childfreebychoice]

13. Nah, they wield too much power as dems. nt

[Efilroft Sul]

15. I think she and Manchin are pushing US away, along with kids being tossed back into poverty.

They picked the wrong time to be small and not answer the call of their country.

[Salviati]

16. I'm less worried:

a) neither of them would survive in the republican party - they wouldn't make it past the primary

b) if they jumped ship, they'd lose all their power. Right now those two are the key votes in democrats getting anything passed. If they jumped ship, they'd just be the 51st brick in the republican wall of obstruction. They'd be doing mitch mcconell a favor, but themselves none, as they'd be losing all the attention that they're getting now.

[agingdem]

18. that's exactly right...she's a clown..

Mitch will not put up with her garbage...

[Hulk]

38. Seriously?

He has Cancun cruz and shaghead paul to deal with already, let alone goofy kennedy and the fb dimwit from AL.

It is a party of misfits and lunatics...blackburn, rubio, barasso, etc, etc. Not a decent one in the whole party.

(I don't really know what my point is..😬.)

[agingdem]

56. Sinema is a useful idiot..

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that's all she is...and yes, the Republican senate buffoons are motley fools to the extreme but they are Mitch's motley fools...as ridiculous as they are, they vote the party line...Sinema would be tolerated but ultimately shoved to the back of the bus when her show-pony days run stale, and that is something Sinema's overblown ego and her delusional sense of self importance would never allow...

[BlueNProud]

12. Karl Rove will run her spoiler "Independent" campaign after she loses Dem primary

Think Joe Lieberman.

[Tommymac]

23. AZ Sore Loser Law - the loser of a primary is not allowed to be on the Nov ballot as an independent

Yes - this is a real thing.

So she would need to decide before entering the primary.

[yellowdogintexas]

78. same here in TX. Filing deadline is in December

So candidates have essentially set in stone the offices for which they will run the following year, regardless of party.

A person can only run for that position, so if he/she loses in the primary
that's the end.

WHich brings us to Louie Goober. He is running for Texas AG, so he can't run for Congress. TX-1 will elect an equally awful TeaParty person, but that person will not have any seniority or choice committee assignments.

[LisaM]

19. I think they are better off ignoring her.

She clearly craves attention, and people seem only too happy to give it to her.

[Tommymac]

24. THIS!!!!!!!! [phone]

It is her ego that is driving her - she is a raging narcissist.

Take away the spotlight and you take away her power.

[ShazzieB]

21. I was wondering exactly being censured means in this context.

According to the article:

The censure has no practical effect but does deliver a strong message of condemnation and reflects the will of the party's most active and loyal members.

It would be nice if it carried some kind of tangible penalty, but this is a good thing, regardless.

At least she'll have no reason to be surprised when she gets primaried. If she even plans to run again, that is.

[SergeStorms]

62. Symbolic, at best.

It let's her know Democrats aren't going to vote for her anymore, but it's too late anyway. She got what she wanted, using the Democratic party to get it.

I think her only move after her term is up is to the private sector, or lobbying.

[Takket]

22. i wonder how long until she leaves the party?

Not sure if she will be an Indie or a rethug, and if Indie, who will she caucus with? But as we now know her delusional mind seriously sees herself as a legit POTUS candidate, I have to think she'll make a move. I'm thinking she might actually be delusional enough to think she can run as an Indie and win.

i'm fearful she'll go indie and cuacus with the rethugs, and McConnell is back in charge of the Senate. Not that that means a whole lot since we can't pass any bills anyway.

[Tommymac]

26. Great analysis here - explains WHY her career IS over now. No more elections for Miss K

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216272210

[Traildogbob]

31. Mitch is already running the senate

How will anything change. Biden can veto any shit they push, we can act like GQP and clog anything, and when Mitch kills filibuster the whole damn country just might wake the Fuck up. 2022 can make those two corp whores irrelevant. And to think she gets a Pension after 6 years for her useless term. Just how fucked up is this country? We are paying trumps pension now. We need a thorough steam cleaning of corruption in the country. With bleach as the steam source. GQP cleaning the swamp my ass. They ARE the detritus settled deep in the muck of the substrate. And added a few feet of it the last 6 years. USA USA USA an embarrassment in the worlds eyes.

[WestofDenver]

34. Same concern here...consequences could be harsh

The judiciary has been a success for the Dems and I think M&S has voted to advance Biden's nominees in general. It would be painful to lose momentum, so ego-stroking might be crucial--and condemnation directed at either is, as a practical matter, toothless.

[BeckyDem]

25. Her intentions have been clear for awhile:

In 2018, she declined to endorse the state’s Democratic candidate for governor against Republican Doug Ducey. Sinema has also been notably absent at official state party events, compared to her tenure in the Arizona Legislature.

In the Saturday statement, Terán praised Sinema's "leadership" in passing the American Rescue Plan and bipartisan infrastructure law, but added that the "ramifications of failing to pass federal legislation that protects their right to vote are too large and far-reaching."

Terán said the party is "a diverse coalition with plenty of room for policy disagreements, however on the matter of the filibuster and the urgency to protect voting rights, we have been crystal clear. In the choice between an archaic legislative norm and protecting Arizonans’ right to vote, we choose the latter, and we always will."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/arizona-democratic-party-board-votes-censure-sinema-after-pro-filibuster-n1287890

[Emile]

27. She should be recalled!

[Celerity]

55. There is no recall for Congress. Even if a state tried, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution

(Article VI, Clause 2), would void the attempt.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

28. Good

[kairos12]

29. About time.

[WestofDenver]

30. Makes me nervous

The Senator has demonstrated quite the childish streak. I worry that if we're too vigorous she will simply declare herself an independent while agreeing to caucus with the Rs. Same with Manchin. Neither probably have much concern about re-election; if they return the Senate to McC there won't be anything we could do. She doesn't appear to care about censure and may well decide to show us how low she's willing to go.

[TomWilm]

32. Oh, Sinerma, where you gonna run to?

[Hulk]

35. Careful...

You're going to urge her to switch parties...and then we lose TOTAL control of the Senate.

[AllyCat]

36. She's gonna jump parties. Anything stopping her?

[Emile]

39. One thing POWER! She switch parties she'll lose her power!

[Cha]

53. That makes sense.. hadn't

thought of that

[Retrograde]

40. Yeah, she won't get as much attention in the GOP

She'd be one of 51, not the "outspoken independent" she sees herself as.

[Tom Rinaldo]

43. She voted to impeach Trump

She's not a good fit in today's Republican Party either, and the Arizona Republican Party in particular is controlled by rabid MEGAs.

I suspect that her heart isn't exactly in the Senate anymore. Either she has delusions of becoming a Third Way Type candidate for President or she is cashing in on her swing vote status for all the money she can gather during one six year term. She could actually be positioning herself to run as an Independent for Senator next time, as a stepping stone toward an Independent bid for President in 2028. Either way I think she isn't concerned about Democratic Party loyalty.

[radius777]

66. AZ political guru Brahm Resnik said she wants to run for President,

that word on the street is that she wants to run for President in 2024 - again proving how politically clueless she is. She has no natural base of support, as a Dem, Ind or Republican.

Independents in AZ are of the Cyndi McCain type - and they value voting rights and getting things done - not with siding with voter suppression and obstructing Biden's agenda.

Repubs are insane MAGAs there as you said and would only vote for a die hard RW Trumper. Sinema voted to impeach Trump twice and is pro-choice.

Dems are done with her, even moderate Dems. Mark Kelly from the same state gives us no trouble and voted for the voting rights carve out along with 48 other Dems many from red and purple states themselves.

[LENNY0229]

41. BAD MOVE! IF SHE JUMPS PARTIES OR GOES INDY TO CAUCUS WITH R'S WE HAVE LOST SENATE CONTROL!

[Hortensis]

42. Don't know how accurate the poll is, but this does show major shifts

at specific points.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/01/poll-only-8-percent-of-arizona-democrats-view-kyrsten-sinema-favorably.html

[AZLD4Candidate]

45. As I said, we here in Arizona are chomping at the bit to primary her.

[calimary]

46. My husband noted that this could be trouble if she's replaced - by a republi-CON ...

Because of the balance of power in the Senate.

I said it was a worthy point, except - what's the difference when she votes republi-CON DESPITE being a "Democrat"?

The solution is to build a SOLID Democratic advantage in the Senate so her voice doesn't make ANY difference, PERIOD.

[llashram]

48. great

[Joinfortmill]

49. 👍

[Mad_Machine76]

50. I applaud their decision but........

Will she be throwing the Senate to the GOP on Monday?

[BeckyDem]

52. Full text:

Link to tweet

[radius777]

54. Sinema is finished, she's politically clueless

despite thinking she's politically savvy.

She responded to the censure with a statement claiming to be 'an independent voice for Arizona'. The problem with this thinking is that independents and Cindy McCain types overwhelmingly support voting rights, and Sinema siding with Jim Crow 2.0 does nothing for 'Arizonans' which has increasingly become a diverse state.

She also has no future as a Republican, being a pro-choice bisexual who twice voted to impeach Trump.

[dchill]

59. Kyrsten: Moral compasses do NOT come in Cracker Jack Boxes!

[WillUSAF]

60. Thank goodness

8% approval rating among Dems in AZ. The next 3 years are going to be fun to watch

[Dirty Socialist]

63. Now RECALL her

[former9thward]

67. Senators can't be recalled.

[ProfessorGAC]

68. How?

Per CGA dot com:

You want to know whether voters in a state can recall a member of the United States Congress. No, they cannot. Any attempt by a state to recall a member of Congress is prohibited by the Federal Constitution.

[DownriverDem]

65. Too bad

they didn't do it sooner.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

69. The Texas Democratic Party endorses this action

Link to tweet

[tiredtoo]

70. What is keeping her from going to the party she supports? EOM

[Emile]

72. Power

[budkin]

74. She's pro-life and bisexual

That’s enough to keep her out.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

77. I think shw is secretly hopped onboard with the Qs.

Seems the type who would be taken in by that kind of BS.

[bdamomma]

80. good

She is a waste of time. Greedy thing she is.