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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:24 PM Oct 2012

Newest poll: 59% of Americans want marijuana legalized

http://blog.norml.org/2012/10/24/59-of-all-americans-want-marijuana-to-be-legalized/

A new poll, conducted by Huffington Post and YouGov, has support for marijuana legalization at an astounding 59% amongst all Americans – the largest support yet recorded in a nationwide poll. Only 26% of respondents stated that marijuana should remain illegal.

The survey asked 1,000 U.S. adults their views on the legalization of marijuana and provided them four options to select from. The breakdown is as follows:

1) Marijuana should be legalized, taxed, and regulated like alcohol – 51%
2) Marijuana should be legalized but NOT taxed and regulated like alcohol – 8%
3) Marijuana should not be legalized – 26%
4) Not sure – 15%


These results show a continued upward trend in support for marijuana legalization in this country. Last year, Gallup recorded support out pacing opposition, 50% to 46%, for the first time in about four decades of polling on the question. Another survey by AngusReid had support for legalization as high as 56%. Worth noting in this recent data is that much of the country is still not comfortable with the unregulated “tomato” model of legalization and prefer regulations similar to alcohol by about 5 to 1 (52% to 8%).
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Newest poll: 59% of Americans want marijuana legalized (Original Post) RainDog Oct 2012 OP
That number would not materialize at the ballot box bluestateguy Oct 2012 #1
Nevertheless - the trend has remained and increased for legalization RainDog Oct 2012 #4
I disagree mick063 Oct 2012 #16
I hope you and others in these states will keep us up to date RainDog Oct 2012 #17
What state? Logical Oct 2012 #21
Everybody I know that is for legalization ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #19
You need to get out more RainDog Oct 2012 #22
I just said it was everybody ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #23
apologies RainDog Oct 2012 #27
Thank you for the apology. ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #29
It should be legalized and controlled like alcohol ibegurpard Oct 2012 #2
I agree completely! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #8
controlled like beer and wine maybe ... Go Vols Oct 2012 #31
Yes on Prop 64 in Colorado!!! SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #33
We'll put that to the test on election day in Washington, Colorado, and Oregon. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #3
... RainDog Oct 2012 #7
the Oregon measure is kind of a mess 0rganism Oct 2012 #28
Screw 'em, let them move to a nation that lives in a democratic reality. nt DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #5
really an idea whose time has come. nt limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #6
Yep, and Americans across party lines also want to protect Social Security benefits. woo me with science Oct 2012 #9
Sometimes the govt has to be forced to do the right thing RainDog Oct 2012 #10
"...insist on their Constitutional rights..." woo me with science Oct 2012 #18
we're talking about one specific issue here RainDog Oct 2012 #20
I think it's a bit late for that.. SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #35
Colorado tax enforcer to ’60 Minutes’: Weed beat the recession in Denver RainDog Oct 2012 #11
You should see the political commercials in Colorado SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #37
It's not about what we want, it's what corporate B Calm Oct 2012 #12
If states continue as they have RainDog Oct 2012 #14
But I voted 590 times krawhitham Oct 2012 #13
The other 41% were too stoned to complete the survey (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #15
8 years ago blazeKing Oct 2012 #24
I am optimistic about America's social policies... Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #25
It's only a matter of time liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #26
Weed kept my niece working in Denver callous taoboy Oct 2012 #30
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #32
Why wasn't 'Decriminalized but not legalized' one of the options? randome Oct 2012 #34
Prohibition is a failed public polcy...again nt TeamPooka Oct 2012 #36

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. That number would not materialize at the ballot box
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:29 PM
Oct 2012

Not yet anyway.

Too many of the supporters of legalization are the most unreliable voters: young people, singles and parents without children.

I'd love to be wrong, but I don't know if that 59% number could withstand a massive ad campaign from the prohibitionist crowd and their scare tactics.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
4. Nevertheless - the trend has remained and increased for legalization
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:41 PM
Oct 2012

Since the 1990s, support for legalization has grown and has never returned to Reagan Drug War levels.

Hopefully Colorado and Washington State will lead the way for the rest of the nation. Along with the judges currently reviewing an appeal in the important court in D.C.

The overwhelming numbers of political and social organizations who support legalization is also a good gauge of where voter sentiments lie, as well as the increasing number of state-level Democratic parties that include cannabis law reform as part of their platforms.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
16. I disagree
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:05 AM
Oct 2012

It will pass in my state.


Then it ends up in Federal court.


Who knows what happens from there.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
17. I hope you and others in these states will keep us up to date
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:06 AM
Oct 2012

via local news orgs, too, that are tracking this issue.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
19. Everybody I know that is for legalization
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:14 AM
Oct 2012

is at minimum 58 years old.....old hippies. Hell, even my 86 year old parents would vote for legalization.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
22. You need to get out more
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:25 AM
Oct 2012

The strongest support for legalization runs from 18 to 49.





I don't fit your demographic at all and I support legalization - so, so much for your claim, huh?

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
23. I just said it was everybody
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:55 AM
Oct 2012
I know that is for legalization. I certainly didn't say that was the national demographic.

And what's up with the attitude? I didn't fucking CLAIM anything except for the people I personally know who are for legalization and certainly didn't include YOU in my demographic.

Jesus - what is wrong with people tonight?


ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
29. Thank you for the apology.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:44 PM
Oct 2012

I understand the being aggravated about something else. Please accept my apology for the over-the-top reply.



If that's too much we can settle for

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
2. It should be legalized and controlled like alcohol
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:31 PM
Oct 2012

a fucking COLOSSAL waste of law enforcement time and money

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
31. controlled like beer and wine maybe ...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:55 PM
Oct 2012

if I choose to make my own at home I should be able to,if people choose not to grow their own, then sell it in stores and tax it.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
3. We'll put that to the test on election day in Washington, Colorado, and Oregon.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:38 PM
Oct 2012

Legalization is on the ballot in all three states, and Detroit, too!

0rganism

(23,918 posts)
28. the Oregon measure is kind of a mess
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:05 AM
Oct 2012

if it doesn't pass, which seems likely at this time, please don't hold it against us

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
9. Yep, and Americans across party lines also want to protect Social Security benefits.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:48 PM
Oct 2012

Representative government, my ass.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
10. Sometimes the govt has to be forced to do the right thing
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:50 PM
Oct 2012

And this issue is one of those things where the people have to simply continue to insist on their constitutional rights and continue to acknowledge the wrongs of the right wing war on cannabis.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
18. "...insist on their Constitutional rights..."
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:10 AM
Oct 2012

The spy center in Utah to allow government monitoring of all phone calls and emails is going up, the administration is drafting an executive order to bring on CISPA, the plans for an internet ID are in progress, the government coordinates attacks on peaceful protesters, we are groped at airports, police departments are acquiring military drones, and warrantless wiretapping and indefinite detention are now the law of the land.

And none of it ever gets mentioned in the media or in an election campaign. The politicians and the media pretend that none of it is happening.

If we really are going to insist on our Constitutional rights, we had better start doing it soon...

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
20. we're talking about one specific issue here
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:16 AM
Oct 2012

That has a record of change - in spite of the prison-industrial complex. That's what I was referring to - although, yes, the War on Drugs was the first route to undermining constitutional rights to privacy, etc. long before the "war on terror" (and the despots we put in power.)

No doubt the over-reaction b/c of 9-11 has had horrid repercussions. these things have happened in the past, too, and the pendulum has swung toward correcting these things at the ballot box. Debs, Japanese Internment Camps... we don't have a perfect past in any way.



SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
35. I think it's a bit late for that..
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:27 PM
Oct 2012

Drove through Texas on I-10 last week. Stopped 4 times at "checkpoints". My favorite was the one where the 3 dogs were walked around my car sniffing for god knows what.

While I wouldn't say we are in a total police state yet, it sure felt like it on I-10 last week.

I work in the concert industry. After the busts of Willie, Snoop, Nellie, and Fiona Apple, Texas and I-10 are becoming places to avoid on tour.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
11. Colorado tax enforcer to ’60 Minutes’: Weed beat the recession in Denver
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:52 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/22/colorado-tax-enforcer-tells-60-minutes-weed-beat-the-recession-in-denver/

The economic impact on Denver? According to Matt Cook, a former narcotics officer who oversees enforcement at the Colorado Department of Revenue, “it’s huge.”

Cook helped write the state’s medical marijuana law, and works as a consultant for medical marijuana businesses in the state. Speaking to “60 Minutes,” he said that the industry accounts for “over a million square feet of lease space in the Denver area.”

“Look at all the electrical contractors, HVAC contractors,” he said. “The number of ancillary businesses — it’s huge. Tax revenues exceeded, I believe the last number I heard was an excess of $20 million.”

While the state’s taxes on marijuana actually took in about $5 million during 2011, it certainly could spike as high or higher than Cook said: a recent study by the Colorado Center on Law and Policy found that legalized marijuana could pull in about $24 million in new revenue from an excise tax on marijuana production alone.

The report adds that state sales taxes on pot could generate up to $8.7 million more, with local governments seeing an additional $14.5 million just in the first year. Savings on enforcement and incarceration during that same period would also top more than $12 million, the group said.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
37. You should see the political commercials in Colorado
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:29 PM
Oct 2012

for prop 64.. They have cops, lawyers, doctors all advocating legalization. Even far right-wing nutbag Tom Tancredo has come out in favor of legalization.

It's coming. Faster than people might think.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
14. If states continue as they have
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:58 PM
Oct 2012

...and there is no reason to think they won't, considering that CA has consistently chosen to go with the will of the voters...

smart pols and corporations will recognize when it's time to switch teams.

Some say that's already happening.

...if your image of the drug trade involves armed gangs or young men in parked cars, these dealers offer a surreal counterpoint. There’s a finance veteran, two children of the Ivy League, multiple lawyers, and the son of a police chief. At their side is a Pulitzer Prize–winning communications consultant, two state lobbyists, and a nationally known political operative. And the guest of honor: a state senator who likes the look of those envelopes being stuffed.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/21/will-pot-barons-cash-in-on-legalization.html

States that are late to this will lose out. States that are early adopters will gain a lot of revenue.
 

blazeKing

(329 posts)
24. 8 years ago
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:13 AM
Oct 2012

I thought legalization wouldn't come around until maybe 2030 or 2040...


The dominos of prohibition are falling, all we need is a few states and a President who will take action. Obama can do this, we have to pressure him in the second term. Romney? He will destroy the MMJ industry in MMJ states and crush all legalization measures. If you've seen clips of him answering questions about marijuana, he truly has a hatred for it. He has a hatred for anyone he sees as beneath him but especially marijuana users and MMJ users. The more we suffer, the more he grins.

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
25. I am optimistic about America's social policies...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:16 AM
Oct 2012

The nastiness coming from the extreme right is a last gasp.

We've come a long way from not being able to say pregnant on a TV show.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
34. Why wasn't 'Decriminalized but not legalized' one of the options?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:21 PM
Oct 2012

I think the number might have been higher for that. I think that's a more pragmatic goal, too.

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