MN COVID patient transferred from Coon Rapids hospital dies in Texas

[ribrepin]

An unvaccinated COVID patient who was transferred from Mercy Hospital in Coon Rapids to a hospital in Texas has died.

Scott Quiner, 55, of Buffalo, died Saturday morning in an unnamed hospital in Houston, Texas, according to media reports.

Quiner’s illness generated news stories nationwide, after his wife Anne Quiner fought plans to remove a ventilator which she said was keeping him alive. The story was picked up by conservative news outlets, which said the Minnesota hospital deliberately mistreated Quiner to punish him for being unvaccinated.

According to the website Red Voice Media, “Anne begged them to try other methods, such as Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine and increasing vitamins and doctors there refused.” Those methods have not been approved by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
https://www.twincities.com/2022/01/22/mn-covid-patient-transferred-from-coon-rapids-hospital-dies-in-texas/

[vercetti2021]

1. Well who didn't see that one coming?

But I'm sure his family will blame.

1. the doctors
2. the hospital
3. the airlift there
4. liberals
5. Biden
6. ALL OF THE ABOVE

[ribrepin]

2. I think we all saw it coming

I don't think air ambulance is covered by insurance, so family must must have put a good bit.

[SergeStorms]

9. They'll be reimbursed by....

the ubiquitous "GoFundMe" page I'm sure is already in place.

Why these rugged individualists, who eschew the only vaccine that would have kept him alive if administered before his infection, always socialize the costs of their folly, is beyond my scope of logical explanation.

You want to play by your own rules concerning this virus, be my guest. But be prepared to accept any and all consequences.

That'll be the day, huh? These anti-vaxxers are great believers in hypocrisy.

[brewens]

19. Well, all those GoFundMe dollars aren't going to political contributions we wouldn't approve

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of, so there's that too.

I can't help it. Every day I wake up and see reports of more COVIDiots in hell is a good day.

[SergeStorms]

29. The problem for a lot of these morons....

is they're maxing our their credit cards to contribute to Trump and his grift machine.

I know two such people, and they certainly can't afford all the money Trump suckers out of them, but they actually believe they're currying favor with Trump and he'll remember them for their generosity.

Fools and their money.

[leftyladyfrommo]

33. Oh, gosh. That's just pathetic.

I can't help it. I feel compassion for the poor folks who just are too dumb to know better. They are paying a horrible price for their gullibility.

[Retired Engineer Bob]

34. If they were true TFG supporters

They can give so much more. Perhaps you can talk them into taking out a second mortgage on the house, or find a shady outfit that will provide an up front payment on their future social security. They can sell a kidney or other non-essential organ.

Remind them that without TFG, their lives will be short and miserable and not worth living. No need to leave anything for their kids, they will be in the same boat. TFG so desperately needs their money, now more than ever.

[DeeDeeNY]

11. They will also blame George Soros

He’s a top scapegoat for Magats!

[Botany]

3. Fuck him. He was on a ventilator because his lungs were failing because he got C-19 and he did ....

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... not have to get it if he had just gotten vaccinated. CDC study had 0 out of 100,000 cases going to
the hospital if somebody had both vaccines and the booster.

Link to tweet

[OneBro]

4. I hope the first hospital sues.

“The story was picked up by conservative news outlets, which said the Minnesota hospital deliberately mistreated Quiner to punish him for being unvaccinated.”

Hopefully the hospital will sue those outlets just like Faux is being sued for lying about the voting machines.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Yes. "deliberately mistreated". Only people with no empathy would think of saying that. . . . nt

[SunSeeker]

10. Yup. Republicans are always projecting.

They assume others are being as heartless as they are.

[Skittles]

5. so they will take all these desperate measures

but won't vax or wear a mask?

[Old Crank]

7. Who is

Picking up the tab for this stuff? As our insurance rates explode to care for these people.

[gab13by13]

12. They get sympathy from Magats

and do GoFundMe's.

[modrepub]

24. There are Too Many

GoFundMe's to take care of all of these like-minded folks. Only a few shooting stars (media hounds) will actually get their bills covered. The vast majority will get about as much as their name/prestige will generate.

From what I've seen, most GoFundMe's are not very successful raising their allotted funds for even small projects. Hospital bills rarely fall under the 5 figure range. Daily rates in ICUs probably run in this range to begin with. Being there weeks or months can't entirely be covered by our swiss-cheese health insurance institutions.

[tanyev]

25. No kidding. Must be crazy expensive to fly someone that sick from Minnesota to Texas.

How much equipment and how many health care workers have to accompany him? And now there's the expense of flying the body back to Minnesota.


The vaccines are free.

[SergeStorms]

30. Small price to pay...

for not giving Bill Gates and the Deep State access to your DNA profile.

[Emile]

8. So what she gonna do now, sue?

[NanananaFatman]

13. I was curious about this when it happened

So I asked the medical director of the clinic I work at / manage ( I ain’t a doctor, I just hang out with them and protect them / make sure they only need to focus on patient care.

She told me there are some small studies on some of the things that the wife wanted , but that they are mostly preventative and could only be considered curative in earlier stages than the vent.

She did say that some studies show vitamin c is helpful and given that it could be rakishly added to an IV and it cost very little she would probably add it to treatment protocols.

But that it’s a Hail Mary pass at end stage.

It is sad, but predictable. I feel sorry for tye widow.

[Kaleva]

17. Woman and her husband ignored other studies that showed the vaccine is very effective...

in reducing the chance of ending up in ICU.

[NanananaFatman]

31. The did.

And the results were predictable.

[obamanut2012]

23. This doctor is incorrect

Vit C does nothing for Covid. Adding Vit C to an IV for Covid?!

The two of you just need to know the VACCINE is what works.

[NanananaFatman]

32. They should have had the vaccine.

But the c would not have been for Covid.

When the body is compromised it is very open to secondary predatory infections.

At this stage of the game almost all we are doing is a Hail Mary pass. If we had an effective curative therapy the death toll wouldn’t be what it is.

Stay safe.

[Vinca]

14. If you don't believe in science, don't go to a hospital. The wife could have fed him Ivermectin,

hydroxychloroquine, boner pills, zinc, urine - whatever the Internet crazies are pushing du jour at home. No sympathy from me.

[yardwork]

22. I read your post after I posted mine - agreed!

It makes me angry that these attention seeking drama queens go into the hospitals at all. If you don't want the treatment the hospital offers, stay home!

[johnthewoodworker]

15. What? An unvaccinated, scientific moron died from COVID-19. Hope your not puzzled.

[Kaleva]

16. Earlier, wife and family lawyer were saying man was improving in TX hospital

"“What we are showing the world is that Scott was near death because of the protocols used in that hospital,” Holsten said. “But now he is recovering. He is getting better. We’re not planning a funeral. We’re planning for his release at some point.”

Anne Quiner said there has been progress, but it has been slow. Her 55-year-old husband’s brain function appears normal, but his lungs have been damaged and scarred. He remains on a ventilator."

https://www.twincities.com/2022/01/21/wife-who-fought-mn-hospital-over-ventilator-said-husband-shows-some-improvement-in-texas-hospital/

[BusterMove]

20. Seemed like the typical "bounce back" before passing...happens alot. Nt

[Wingus Dingus]

35. Delusional. Sad that she found a facility to indulge her delusions.

They shouldn't encourage this shit.

[Hortensis]

18. We've seen this before in politics, many times.

Much has been written about what's happening now, but turns out paranoid personality traits (not so strong as to be diagnosable disorder) are COMMON. They can be related to any subject but definitely politics are included. We can see the paranoid monster cut loose in social dynamics now all around us, but for a little perspective for understanding:

The Paranoid Style in American Politics
by Richard Hofstadter 1964

... It had been around a long time before the Radical Right discovered it—and its targets have ranged from “the international bankers” to Masons, Jesuits, and munitions makers.

American politics has often been an arena for angry minds. In recent years we have seen angry minds at work mainly among extreme right-wingers, who have now demonstrated in the Goldwater movement how much political leverage can be got out of the animosities and passions of a small minority.

But behind this I believe there is a style of mind that is far from new and that is not necessarily right-wing. I call it the paranoid style simply because no other word adequately evokes the sense of heated exaggeration, suspiciousness, and conspiratorial fantasy that I have in mind. In using the expression “paranoid style” I am not speaking in a clinical sense, but borrowing a clinical term for other purposes.

Here is Senator McCarthy, speaking in June 1951 about the parlous situation of the United States:

How can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men high in this government are concerting to deliver us to disaster? This must be the product of a great conspiracy on a scale so immense as to dwarf any previous such venture in the history of man. A conspiracy of infamy so black that, which it is finally exposed, its principals shall be forever deserving of the maledictions of all honest men. . . . What can be made of this unbroken series of decisions and acts contributing to the strategy of defeat? They cannot be attributed to incompetence. . . . The laws of probability would dictate that part of . . . [the] decisions would serve the country’s interest.

Now turn back fifty years to a manifesto signed in 1895 by a number of leaders of the Populist party:

As early as 1865–66 a conspiracy was entered into between the gold gamblers of Europe and America. . . . For nearly thirty years these conspirators have kept the people quarreling over less important matters while they have pursued with unrelenting zeal their one central purpose. . . . Every device of treachery, every resource of statecraft, and every artifice known to the secret cabals of the international gold ring are being used to deal a blow to the prosperity of the people and the financial and commercial independence of the country.

Next, a Texas newspaper article of 1855:

. . . It is a notorious fact that the Monarchs of Europe and the Pope of Rome are at this very moment plotting our destruction and threatening the extinction of our political, civil, and religious institutions. We have the best reasons for believing that corruption has found its way into our Executive Chamber, and that our Executive head is tainted with the infectious venom of Catholicism. . . . The Pope has recently sent his ambassador of state to this country on a secret commission, the effect of which is an extraordinary boldness of the Catholic church throughout the United States. . . . These minions of the Pope are boldly insulting our Senators; reprimanding our Statesmen; propagating the adulterous union of Church and State; abusing with foul calumny all governments but Catholic, and spewing out the bitterest execrations on all Protestantism. The Catholics in the United States receive from abroad more than $200,000 annually for the propagation of their creed. Add to this the vast revenues collected here. . . .

These quotations give the keynote of the style. In the history of the United States one find it, for example, in the anti-Masonic movement, the nativist and anti-Catholic movement, in certain spokesmen of abolitionism who regarded the United States as being in the grip of a slaveholders’ conspiracy, in many alarmists about the Mormons, in some Greenback and Populist writers who constructed a great conspiracy of international bankers, in the exposure of a munitions makers’ conspiracy of World War I, in the popular left-wing press, in the contemporary American right wing, and on both sides of the race controversy today, among White Citizens’ Councils and Black Muslims. I do not propose to try to trace the variations of the paranoid style that can be found in all these movements, but will confine myself to a few leading episodes in our past history in which the style emerged in full and archetypal splendor.

https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/

Btw, this is just one big reason to vote to keep power with the liberal Democratic Party. We're stable, we hold solid, when others on the right, and also left, go crazy.

(Anyone remember the LW populist paranoia around 2016, when some raged that Democrats were "stealing" dozens of primary elections (!) -- and that they were thus justified in trying to steal the nomination from the "corrupt corporatists"? To this day some paranoidish types still believe that LW version of the big lie.)

[yardwork]

21. I wish that they wouldn't go to the hospital.

It's so wrong of people to voluntarily be admitted to hospital and then claim that they're being mistreated when the hospital uses the standard of care. It's one or the other. Either you accept the standard of care or you don't. If you don't, why do business with the hospital?

If you wanted blocks of cement instead of tires for your car would you go to a place that puts tires on cars?

[keithbvadu2]

26. Why didn't you love him/her enough to take him to a doctor you would trust to treat him as you wante

Why didn't you love him/her enough to take him to a doctor you would trust to treat him as you wanted?

[kairos12]

27. ICU Karen. Disgrace.

[Paladin]

28. Will be interesting to know which Texas hospital is involved.

I live in Texas, and I don't think there's a safe hospital in the whole state. Thanks to unvaccinated contamination of the facilities.