Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:37 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

Sinema and Manchin have voted for nearly every judicial nominee

What makes you think they will vote against a SCOTUS nominee? They are against removing the fillibuster, not Supreme Court nominees

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/22/1075049532/president-biden-is-replacing-federal-judges-at-a-record-breaking-pace

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Sinema and Manchin have voted for nearly every judicial nominee (Original post)	ColinC	Jan 2022	OP
It's also quite likely that Biden	mcar	Jan 2022	#1
Yeah. Also we aren't clear that McConnell will oppose a nominee	ColinC	Jan 2022	#2
He doesn't have the power to oppose a nominee.	W_HAMILTON	Jan 2022	#8
Well he can oppose whoever he wants, but it will largely do little good.	ColinC	Jan 2022	#11
Power	iemanja	Jan 2022	#26
Will this be a situation where VP Harris breaks a tie, or doesn't that apply ?	Budi	Jan 2022	#3
Probably. I think that's something she's done frequently with the fed courts	ColinC	Jan 2022	#5
Thanks. Should it come to a tie breaker, we have our Ace ready to play.	Budi	Jan 2022	#16
Cause.....DINO?	MoonRiver	Jan 2022	#4
..	ColinC	Jan 2022	#6
Manchin voted to confirm Boof Boy to the SC. Yet voted against the Coney Hot Dog. Could it be	Autumn	Jan 2022	#7
He voted for plenty of women in the federal courts already	ColinC	Jan 2022	#9
Well, Joe Manchin was up for re-election in 2018 when he voted for Kavanaugh	In It to Win It	Jan 2022	#10
Mnchin will do what he wants to do.	Autumn	Jan 2022	#12
Nah, it's because voting against Boof boy wouldn't have changed the outcome	AZSkiffyGeek	Jan 2022	#20
I think it is pretty clear Manchin and Sinema will do whatever is best for them.	Act_of_Reparation	Jan 2022	#13
This message was self-deleted by its author	Act_of_Reparation	Jan 2022	#14
Because they've created their own bad faith	lame54	Jan 2022	#15
Thus it necessarily follows?	Torchlight	Jan 2022	#17
Would they really want the limelight on why the voted for somebody	ColinC	Jan 2022	#18
Depends on how they spin the limelight.	Torchlight	Jan 2022	#19
Manchin has voted for almost every dem appelate court nominee	ColinC	Jan 2022	#21
Again, it does not follow.	Torchlight	Jan 2022	#23
Fair enough	ColinC	Jan 2022	#25
It is because they can't be trusted. Sinema is always trying to please Mitch McConnell..You better	helpisontheway	Jan 2022	#22
if she really wanted to please Mitch she	Tickle	Jan 2022	#24

Response to ColinC (Original post)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:42 PM

mcar (39,054 posts)

1. It's also quite likely that Biden

will nominate a jurist who was approved by the Senate in 2021. Thus, the bulk of the vetting is already done.

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Response to mcar (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:44 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

2. Yeah. Also we aren't clear that McConnell will oppose a nominee

They have 6-3 majority, what reason would he have? I mean it's McConnell so don't be surprised, but I don't think he has announced his plans on this yet.

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Response to ColinC (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:59 PM

W_HAMILTON (5,004 posts)

8. He doesn't have the power to oppose a nominee.

He's not the Majority Leader in the Senate anymore and he removed the 60-vote threshold to confirm Supreme Court Justices, so, Democrats can "go it alone" if need be.

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:00 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

11. Well he can oppose whoever he wants, but it will largely do little good.

But we don't even know if he is going to.

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Response to ColinC (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 03:38 PM

iemanja (50,072 posts)

26. Power

That is his motive, always. Expecting him to act reasonably is a major mistake.

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Response to ColinC (Original post)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:50 PM

Budi (15,325 posts)

3. Will this be a situation where VP Harris breaks a tie, or doesn't that apply ?

Just asking.
Looking for all the possibilities because not one Repub will vote to confirm Biden's choice.
This is their chance to stick a permanent fork in the 'liberal' SC forever. McConnell's already on the phone to his rotten troops.

Now if Ginny Thomas's hubby would just leave...🤬

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Response to Budi (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:53 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

5. Probably. I think that's something she's done frequently with the fed courts

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Response to ColinC (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:17 PM

Budi (15,325 posts)

16. Thanks. Should it come to a tie breaker, we have our Ace ready to play.

How fitting that Kamala Harris would be the vote that sends a Pro-Roe Woman of Color to sit on the SC with that racist beer swilling, macho, frat boy, Kavanaugh.

Make it happen!!!

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Response to ColinC (Original post)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:51 PM

MoonRiver (36,925 posts)

4. Cause.....DINO?

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:55 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

6. ..

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/22/1075049532/president-biden-is-replacing-federal-judges-at-a-record-breaking-pace

They are tragically mislead in terms of the fillibuster and Manchin on BBB, but beyond that, we have no reason yet to question their support for liberal justices.

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Response to ColinC (Original post)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:57 PM

Autumn (41,596 posts)

7. Manchin voted to confirm Boof Boy to the SC. Yet voted against the Coney Hot Dog. Could it be

because she was a woman? Possible IMO.

God knows Boofer being a serial rapist was worse than she was, though both are trash and put in to protect Trump and the Puke party.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:59 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

9. He voted for plenty of women in the federal courts already

One of them would probably be fine.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:00 PM

In It to Win It (3,531 posts)

10. Well, Joe Manchin was up for re-election in 2018 when he voted for Kavanaugh

and was not on the ballot in 2020 on the Barrett confirmation vote.

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Response to In It to Win It (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:02 PM

Autumn (41,596 posts)

12. Mnchin will do what he wants to do.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:35 PM

AZSkiffyGeek (6,706 posts)

20. Nah, it's because voting against Boof boy wouldn't have changed the outcome

And it would've cost him his seat in 2018. See every other Dem who was up for reelection in 2018 and voted against him.

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Response to ColinC (Original post)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:09 PM

Act_of_Reparation (8,622 posts)

13. I think it is pretty clear Manchin and Sinema will do whatever is best for them.

I'm not saying they won't confirm a SCOTUS appointment, but at the same time I don't think other judicial appointments, which don't have the same kind of exposure, are an indicator of how these two will vote on nationally prominent appointments.

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Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:11 PM

lame54 (32,682 posts)

15. Because they've created their own bad faith

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Response to ColinC (Original post)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:30 PM

Torchlight (1,169 posts)

17. Thus it necessarily follows?

Nominations of a supreme court justice is limelight level-- my guess is that after their actions of the past three months, both will do whatever they think gives them the best press and largest stage.

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Response to Torchlight (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:32 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

18. Would they really want the limelight on why the voted for somebody

To the appellate court, but against them for the supreme court? That is likely what would happen.

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Response to ColinC (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:34 PM

Torchlight (1,169 posts)

19. Depends on how they spin the limelight.

Easy to rewrite narratives. Something we see daily in for-profit media.

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Response to Torchlight (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:39 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

21. Manchin has voted for almost every dem appelate court nominee

He has also voted against every chance to amend the fillibuster. If it is consistency he is looking for then he will vote for a SCOTUS nominee.

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Response to ColinC (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:44 PM

Torchlight (1,169 posts)

23. Again, it does not follow.

Precedence is not concrete, and not something to hang one's hat on. 'It Does Not Follow' is a logical fallacy.

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Response to Torchlight (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 03:37 PM

ColinC (5,479 posts)

25. Fair enough

I doubt he will vote against a nominee, especially with breyers decision -i imagine he wouldn't have made this decision without good reason Manchin and Sinema would support a nominee.

Either way, breyer stays until a replacement is made. I imagine he could reverse his decision if there is no replacement for the entirety of Biden's term. But that seems very unlikely.

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Response to ColinC (Original post)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:43 PM

helpisontheway (4,784 posts)

22. It is because they can't be trusted. Sinema is always trying to please Mitch McConnell..You better

believe Mitch is promising her the world to side with them. I will never forget Sinema looking towards Mitch and then doing a cutsy as she cast her vote. And Manchin is a Democrat in name only. However, he is probably the best we could get (which aint saying much) out of that state.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 26, 2022, 02:47 PM

Tickle (1,074 posts)

24. if she really wanted to please Mitch she

would be a repub. It will all work out the way it is suppose to

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