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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,808 posts)
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 04:17 PM Jan 2022

New Filings Shed Light on How Much Money TFG Really Has in the Bank

Donald Trump often says he's "really rich" — but is notoriously tight-lipped when it comes to his exact net worth.

New filings released Tuesday by New York Attorney General Letitia James offer a window into how much the former president actually has in the bank, showing that Trump's liquid assets equaled $93 million in 2020.

Forbes was the first to report on documents, which were released as part of James' civil investigation into the Trump Organization's financial dealings. (The company and Trump deny wrongdoing, saying they're being politically targeted.)

While it's certainly no small chunk of change, Trump's 2020 assets are, as Forbes notes, a far cry from those of other real-estate magnates — and a very far cry from the assets he has claimed in the past.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/filings-shed-light-much-money-153930331.html

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New Filings Shed Light on How Much Money TFG Really Has in the Bank (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2022 OP
Well, I hope if he has a meltdown over this, grumpyduck Jan 2022 #1
Wasn't he claiming to be worth $4 Billion? Or was it $10 Billion. I can't keep up Siwsan Jan 2022 #2
Last figure I head was 8 Gajillion. nt Carlitos Brigante Jan 2022 #10
He Claimed $4.8 Billion ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #17
this should be brought out to the public much more gopiscrap Feb 2022 #20
The Moody's Report I Used... ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #22
Wonder what traitortrump's near term debt service looks like empedocles Jan 2022 #3
Actually, It's Probably Low ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #23
How many people are suing him for money owed, I wonder Wicked Blue Jan 2022 #4
And what there is is probably leveraged 10 times over. lindysalsagal Jan 2022 #5
Would not de-stabilize all banks. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #8
The Best Case I Could Come Up With... ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #24
93 million will quickly be spent on lawyers. sarcasmo Jan 2022 #6
How much is hidden offshore? nt tenderfoot Jan 2022 #7
;-{)🖖‍ Goonch Jan 2022 #9
The rich guy who hides his wealth. Initech Jan 2022 #11
Wonder how much of that was grifted from his sucker cult. Vinca Jan 2022 #12
Trump has never showed a shred of evidence Mr.Bill Jan 2022 #13
... and his debts are how many times greater than this? L. Coyote Jan 2022 #14
He has $12.88 VGNonly Jan 2022 #15
What a mess friedmanadam16 Feb 2022 #16
welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2022 #19
I'm not quite believing this jmowreader Feb 2022 #18
He probably has way more debt than that, and a negative net value n/t Silent3 Feb 2022 #21

Siwsan

(27,838 posts)
2. Wasn't he claiming to be worth $4 Billion? Or was it $10 Billion. I can't keep up
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 04:22 PM
Jan 2022

What ever the case, this is going to be a big old kick in his ego's nads, that's for sure.

ProfessorGAC

(76,742 posts)
17. He Claimed $4.8 Billion
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 11:17 AM
Feb 2022

Forbes stupidly had him at $4.2 billion. He said they were 600 million low.
Neither number was right.
Forbes still has him at $2.3 billion, which is ridiculous.
They ignore the Moody's report & the now known loans from China& Saudi Arabia.
They are still using greatly inflated asset value & grossly understated debt.
He's worth an absolute max of $500 million, and that's highly doubtful.
Since he took over a company with a net value of $320+ million thrityone years ago, and had $54 million of daddy's tax free loans 43 years ago, he has, at best, underperformed the markets by more than an order of magnitude. At best!

gopiscrap

(24,736 posts)
20. this should be brought out to the public much more
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:19 PM
Feb 2022

no more I am running for president because I am a business man...which the damn media would have dug deeper in 2016

ProfessorGAC

(76,742 posts)
22. The Moody's Report I Used...
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:38 PM
Feb 2022

...wasn't done until 2018. But,...........
The 2013 report wasn't that much different. They still reduced asset value and had "reservations" about declared debt.
The media could have made that an issue.
Even without that, how did they miss the disconnect between the "brilliant business titan" & running CASINOS into bankruptcy? The vast majority of casinos are practically printing presses for money, but these business "genius" lost money on them by.....going into competition with himself!
The numbers I used take some digging (plus a low level access to a private database....don't ask). But, it's not my job to do such digging. That's the journalists' job.
They didn't do it.

ProfessorGAC

(76,742 posts)
23. Actually, It's Probably Low
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:46 PM
Feb 2022

When a company gets leveraged at 800-1,000% of industry average, the insurance & annuity companies aren't lining up to provide cash flow lines of credit.
His STD is likely low, because hardly anybody would lend him money, at least since 2010.
It seems likely that the "inflate assets & understate debt" trick was as much about using LTD to cover cash flow deficiencies as it was to fund growth.

lindysalsagal

(22,922 posts)
5. And what there is is probably leveraged 10 times over.
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jan 2022

He's probably effectively bankrupt, which is why he needed to borrow saudi and russian money. And it's still not being prosecuted: The fact that we know he launders thug money internationally. It might de-stabilize all banks if they ever tried.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. Would not de-stabilize all banks.
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 04:48 PM
Jan 2022

Only the crooked ones he deals with, such as Deutsche Bank and Alfa.

ProfessorGAC

(76,742 posts)
24. The Best Case I Could Come Up With...
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:48 PM
Feb 2022

...is a debt:equity ratio for the company of at least 8. That's BRUTAL!
It's 10x the peer average.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
14. ... and his debts are how many times greater than this?
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 06:38 PM
Jan 2022

At some point very soon, banks might want to call in their loans before they get nothing on the dollar.

friedmanadam16

(2 posts)
16. What a mess
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 10:48 AM
Feb 2022

We know he launders gang cash across the world. If they attempted, it might destabilize all banks.

jmowreader

(53,206 posts)
18. I'm not quite believing this
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 12:45 PM
Feb 2022

We know the Trump Organization is basically the Sixth Family of New York. (The Five Families is the term used to describe the five Italian-controlled “mafia” groups operating in the New York Metro area.) The Five Families are very good at concealing assets. Why wouldn’t the Sixth Family operate the same way?

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