BREAKING: Spotify.

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flexghost. @flexghost1 13h
BREAKING: Spotify.

Tristan Snell @TristanSnell 14h
BREAKING - Spotify is no longer letting people cancel subscriptions.

(edit: cancellations are reportedly going through without difficulty today)

Link to tweet

...spotify brought Crosby back to Young.

Link to tweet

[LizBeth]

1. I called cr card company and they are blocking payment.

[a kennedy]

2. Fawk em. 🤬 🤬 🤬. Can't cancel your subscription......bull.

[Srkdqltr]

3. Why don't we like Spotify

I don't use it.

[Pinback]

5. One and only platform for Joe Rogan,

notorious COVID misinformation spewer.

[CrackityJones75]

93. one and only?

I don’t think so.

[Pinback]

94. Spotify makes Joe Rogan's podcast an exclusive as the platform expands beyond music

- CNN Business, May 19, 2020:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/19/media/spotify-joe-rogan-exclusive/index.html

New York (CNN Business)Spotify (SPOT) will soon be the exclusive home to one of the biggest podcasts in the world.

Spotify announced Tuesday that it signed "The Joe Rogan Experience" for a multi-year exclusive licensing deal. The talk show-style podcast is anchored by comedian Joe Rogan, whom some consider controversial for peddling conspiracy theories with guests like Alex Jones. The podcast is ranked the second most popular in the United States on Apple Podcasts, according to Podcast Insights, and Rogan topped Forbes' 2020 list of the highest-earning podcasters.
The deal is the latest move in Spotify's effort to expand beyond a music streaming service to become an audio empire. In 2019, Spotify made its ambitions known by acquiring podcast companies Gimlet Media, Anchor and Parcast. In February, Spotify bought The Ringer, Bill Simmons' sports and culture site that boasts more than than 30 podcasts.

- More at link above.

[CrackityJones75]

96. The dude is ubiquitous.

Spotify may be his home but his bullshit is being talked about and replayed everywhere.

[bigtree]

8. Spotify dropped Young after he demanded Joe Rogan get dropped for his anti-vax bull

Steve Silberman @stevesilberman
Awesome news: @NeilYoung tells @Spotify to remove his music from their service if they continue to air Joe Rogan's lies, disinformation, and BS about #COVID19 and vaccines. Go Neil!

Link to tweet

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Sirius XM has picked Neil up and will be playing his music. We can hope they help Manilow too. . nt

[Diablo del sol]

30. I think XM already dropped the channel

If they bring it back they need to get more Crazy Horse songs in the rotation.

[BumRushDaShow]

43. It was a "limited time" channel during the holidays

to premier music from his latest album.

BUT!!!!!!!! I just checked and they brought it back!!!

https://blog.siriusxm.com/neil-young-radio-2022/

Following its launch last month for a limited time, Neil Young Radio has exclusively returned to SiriusXM as a satellite and streaming channel, presenting the entire musical world of legendary musician Neil Young.

Tune in to Neil Young Radio now on its limited-engagement home, Deep Tracks (Ch. 27), through February 4 at 3am ET, and then from February 4 through February 26 at 3am ET on Channel 505. Listen to the channel now on the SXM App

Link to tweet

SiriusXM
@SIRIUSXM
Now seems like a good time to let you know @NeilYoungNYA Radio is back on SiriusXM 😉 Listen here: http://siriusxm.us/NYRsxm
9:16 AM · Jan 27, 2022

Jan 27, 2022 7:06am PT
SiriusXM Relaunches Neil Young Radio, a Day After His Music Was Removed From Spotify



By Jem Aswad

Wasting no time in the wake of Neil Young’s decision to remove his music from Spotify to protest the anti-vaccine views expressed on Joe Rogan’s podcast on the service, SiriusXM has relaunched Neil Young Radio, a satellite and streaming music channel featuring music and exclusive stories from Neil Young.

Following its launch in December as a limited-run channel, Neil Young Radio now returns to its limited engagement slot on SiriusXM’s Deep Tracks, channel 27, for 7 days starting today, and for a month streaming on the SXM App.

SiriusXM hosts multiple conservative radio shows that espouse views similar to or more outspoken than Rogan’s — particularly on SiriusXM Patriot channel, which features Sean Hannity, Breitbart News, Andrew Wilkow and others — however, satellite radio is covered by different broadcast licenses than streaming services and a rights-holder would not be able to prevent its music from being broadcast. Streaming services host content at the discretion of the rights holder; since Warner Music holds the rights to Young’s music, he had to request the company remove his catalog from Spotify.

According to the announcement, SiriusXM’s Young channel will include “rarities and exclusives, every new song from his latest album Barn, epic hits and fan favorites from his solo music, collaborations with Buffalo Springfield and Crosby Stills Nash & Young, plus Neil sharing the insights behind writing and recording the music.”

https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/siriusxm-relaunches-neil-young-radio-spotify-joe-rogan-1235165109/

[Bernardo de La Paz]

56. They've already brought it back. Other services are picking up Neil Young too

https://www.wsj.com/articles/neil-youngs-radio-channel-on-siriusxm-is-revived-after-spotify-removal-11643321014

Neil Young’s Radio Channel on SiriusXM Is Revived After Spotify Removal
After Spotify refused to cut Joe Rogan’s lucrative podcast, Sirius re-upped with Mr. Young; other streamers promote the folk-rocker

While he said he is losing out on 60% of his streaming income, the market is adjusting as other services take steps to capitalize on courting the folk-rock singer and his loyal listeners. The dustup drew supporters and detractors to social media voicing their views on Mr. Young and Spotify.

...

In another post on his website Wednesday, Mr. Young made a plug for other services, pointing to Amazon Music, Apple Music and Qobuz, which “present my music today in all its high-resolution glory—the way it is intended to be heard.”

Other streaming services this week promoted that they carried Mr. Young’s music.

Hi-fi streaming service Tidal, which Mr Young has championed for its sound quality, retweeted a fan’s observation: “Love that Neil Young is trending on Tidal” and then shared a meme welcoming fresh recruits.

[Diablo del sol]

69. Yup. Just flipped on and it is back. N/f

[ananda]

51. I never heard of it till the Neil young thing.

My problem is with Apple.

But that's somewhat resolved now.

[mucifer]

4. I would think people could sue. You can't force people to no cancel it

[Hekate]

7. Contact your own credit card company & tell them to stop payment. It works.

The phone number is on the back of your card.

[Caliman73]

14. Not sure if they are actively saying you can't...

Because it is so new, it isn't clear if they are saying "You can't" or they are saying "We are so inundated with traffic, that we can't get to everything right now".

You are right though. If Spotify doesn't get a handle on this quickly, it will result in liability for them.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

6. Not exactly

This is from yesterday, and it's because their system is overwhelmed, not that they are not permitting subscribers to cancel, just that they are getting swamped and can't process them quickly.

[bigtree]

10. well, yeah, and people are still having problems cancelling

...they shut their live customer service down yesterday.

Link to tweet

Yes. Spotify has been overwhelmed with people looking to cancel. That's the post.

[captain queeg]

9. If CC companies get a lot of requests to cancel payment pretty sure they'll get tired of it

And they will cancel their ties with them. A company that does business over the internet can’t survive if that happens. I had some BS charge show up recently and I put in a claim with my CC and said I wanted the money refunded. Got an email less than a day later that I’d been refunded and my “subscription” had been cancelled. I never had to explain myself to anyone. I suspect I wasn’t the first. These places that try to give you an ongoing subscription after a small one time charge are rampant.

[CurtEastPoint]

13. I have a free account but.... I did this: ( and removed it from my phone as well )

[Budi]

11. Crosby & Young should put out a duo album of their best free world songs

Noting how fitting their message of those years are so current today.

Music is the messenger.
If anyone knows that, it's the musicians of that era.

Oh ya, bring Sprinsteen along for the grand finale of the full circle Rockin in the Free World Tour.

Thanks


"In 100 years, people will be playing Neil Young's music. Musicians will perform his songs. His recordings will be important pieces of the cultural record. Whereas Joe Rogan will merely be gone and forgotten. So, I suspect, will Spotify." ~ tom watson

[SergeStorms]

41. Crosby and Young aren't on speaking terms.

Last time I knew anyway. Crosby's ego and motor mouth has eroded many old friendships over the years.

The split between the two happened when Crosby insulted Neil's girlfriend (Daryl Hannah) and Neil went ballistic and basically told Crosby to fuck off. Steven Stills recently made semi-amends with Crosby after years of icy silence.

Being a friend of David Crosby seems to have a shelf life. He can be a real prick. Maybe this is a backhanded overture to patching up the break with Young?

[lame54]

54. Neil - Manilow collaboration...

That could be interesting

[Dustlawyer]

15. I only regret that I don't have a Spotify account to cancel.

[LoisB]

34. Me too. I'm so old that when I listen to music at home, it's on the record player. In the car,

it's CDs. I am so behind the times, I wouldn't know how to "stream" if someone paid me.

[calimary]

39. You're not alone, LoisB!

I’m right there with ya!

But then again, I still like pen ‘n’ paper!

[LoisB]

44. OMG. A kindred soul. Thank you. I'm with you on the pen 'n' paper too. You should see the

looks of disbelief I get when I say "I don't have a cell phone". I'm not anti-technology; I have a laptop (courtesy of a granddaughter) and a desktop p.c. My granddaughters laugh when I pick up a dictionary to look up a word instead of "googling" it.

[calimary]

83. You know what else I like?

Light switches. You flick it on. You flick it off.

But start throwing in voice command and 100-twenty-seven million different choices and options and modifications and colors and …

And you just lose me.


But I’m writing this on my iPhone and I have a laptop too. So I’ve got a couple of toes inside the new age. But not much more. And I dread the day I have to get a new car - and have to start figuring out the advanced technology.

I’m lucky, though. At least for now. My husband is happy to be my translator.

[LoisB]

86. I am with you on the light switches too. One of my granddaughters has some thing on her

"smart" phone that turns her lights on/off with some kind of "smart" light bulbs. I still flick switches. You almost have to have a 200 IQ to figure out the light bulbs - remember when all you had to decide was if you wanted 40 watt, 60 watt, 75 watt or 100 watt?

Just had a new thermostat installed. I don't know how to work it. One of my granddaughters controls it from an application on her phone. I understand that the gas company also has the ability to control the temperature in my house. The old one, I just either turned it to heat or air conditioning and set the temperature. To me, this is crazy.

[calimary]

87. I am SOOOOoooo there, LoisB!

Right there with ya!

I wish it weren’t so. But it is, and I am.

[LoisB]

91. You and me kiddo.

[wnylib]

40. OMG. I thought that I was old-fashioned for still

listening to CDs at home.

[LoisB]

47. Got you beat on the "old-fashioned". I prefer to call it "set in my ways" but I am old-fashioned.

I think vinyl has a totally different sound than CDs although I do like the durability of CDs.

[wnylib]

49. For sure vinyl has a different sound

than CDs, and is superior in quality of sound. I still have some vinyl albums, but no record player for them.

Vinyl has a richer sound to it. Remember how we tried to get the best speakers for it and settings for base, etc.?

By comparison, CDs sound tinny.

[LoisB]

53. Yes! Exactly right. Your descriptions are what I couldn't come up with, I'm glad you did.

Thank you. One of the greatest sounds (musically) I have ever heard is Tina Turner singing River Deep, Mountain High on vinyl. Phil Spector's "wall of sound" coupled with Tina's voice - WOW! I really turn up the volume for that one.

Don't know if you want to bother but I believe Target sells record players. I have three 78s but no way to play them.

[wnylib]

60. I have considered getting a record player,

But the little ones that are sold today don't have the quality of sound that the old stereo and quad sounds had with adjustments for treble and base. To buy one of that quality now would not be worth it to me for the few vinyl albums that I have.

[hydrolastic]

79. Best of Hi fi era was the Magnavox Concert Grand

I picked one up and it is amazing with its 42 tubes and 100 watts. Nothing like it it is the best sounding stereo I have ever heard. A couple of weeks ago I played CSNY "wooden ships" and it brought a tear to the eye. Those guys were magical together. if they can take down Joe Rogan...even better.

[ChazII]

46. You are not alone. n/t

[Sherman A1]

52. In the car it's all 8 Track Tapes for me!

[LoisB]

55. Wow. Good on you! Closest I can come to that is cassette tapes.

[waddirum]

81. The only streaming I do

is followed by a flush.

[calimary]

37. Same here. If I did, I wouldn't by now.

[Initech]

16. So glad I buy all my music.

Yeah it probably is more expensive that way but I do support the music I like and I also know that streaming services really screw a lot of artists out of money. So I use services like Bandcamp where all the money goes directly to the artist.

[CaptainTruth]

22. As musician & songwriter, I thank you.

[cally]

17. I just cancelled!

And I had so much fun leaving a comment about why!

[onenote]

19. But but but...the tweet in the OP says you can't.

Maybe the tweet is a wee bit hyperbolic.

[bigtree]

23. the rush of cancellations dropped off since yesterday

I Smoked 42 Episodes Of Joe Rogan's Show @BlackKnight10k 3h
After the 14 steps I had to go through to cancel my spotify account, on the survey question where it asks why I cancelled, I said it's because Joe Rogaine drinks his own piss...



cancel Premium Spotify plans here:
https://support.spotify.com/us/article/cancel-premium/

[Srkdqltr]

18. This is all so silly. Just , excuse the expression, idiotic, stupid.

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. I just read that their streaming has decreased 25% in recent weeks, since Rogan went full antivax.

[Celerity]

66. link please, TIA

[mountain grammy]

21. The last thing I listened to on Spotify

was the Obama/Springsteen podcast.. it was wonderful. I reccomend it and hope it's available elsewhere.

When I deleted the spotify app, it informed me that was the last thing I listened to...

[Ferrets are Cool]

24. This makes me wish I had a subscription, just so I could cancel it.

[ashredux]

25. Glad to see the Public speaking up...

Sadly, I can no longer even listen to Clapton…SOB….

I will boycott any anti-vaccine idiot I can….

Oh, I almost forgot…fuck Aaron Rodgers

[YoshidaYui]

26. A lot of artists are turning to NFTs ...

so they can get their fans to invest in their music.

[Native]

28. I was waiting a few days to see if they'd drop Rogan, but since they haven't I've cancelled.

[Native]

29. Btw, if you follow the online prompts, you can easily cancel now.

[Tickle]

95. I read he had a following

of 11 million people. I’m🤑🤪

[KatK]

31. I had no problem cancelling this morning

[Diablo del sol]

32. Cancelled this morning

No issue at all.

[Cozmo]

33. Boycotts Work!

[IronLionZion]

35. I never liked Spotify and dropped it long ago

but I will continue to boycott them in spirit

[barbtries]

36. really good to know.

i have Pandora, but was hoping this would happen.

[spanone]

38. ⏩ K&R ⏪

[Scrivener7]

42. We're missing the lede on this one! They're letting people cancel, but yesterday their

system got so jammed up with cancellations that some were not able to get through.

The great part of the story is that they are jammed up with cancellations!

Which is FABULOUS!

[senseandsensibility]

85. Woo-hoo!

You're right!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

45. This makes me smile

[liberalmuse]

48. I just closed my non-premium account.

Joe Rogan still has freedom of speech but I chose not to belong to the platform that is helping him blast misinformation to the masses.

[ananda]

50. You can have your CC company block Spotify from using your CC.

...

[Quemado]

57. I was able to cancel my premium account.

No problem here.

[LearnedHand]

78. The "free" account means they count us in their audience demographics

And you can't delete the account unless you download a PDF, fill it out and freaking SIGN it, and send it to them.

[Quemado]

92. How to find the PDF?

I couldn't find the PDF.

I found a video on YouTube titled "How To Delete Spotify Account Permanently (Quick & Easy)"

I wound up sending an email to Spotify support, requesting account deletion.

So, is Spotify Support going to send me an email with a link to the PDF?

[Quemado]

97. I was able to close my account without a PDF.

All I did was send a message to Spotify support, requesting account deletion. I deleted all my playlists. I answered a few questions that Spotify support posed to me. Spotify sent me a link to close the account.

The account is now closed per the Spotify website:

Close account
Step 5/5
All done!

Your account is now closed so you won’t be able to log in anymore.

If you change your mind...

We sent you a confirmation which includes a link to reactivate your account. This link is only valid for 7 days.
You can create a new account.

Note: If you want to use the same email address, you need to wait 14 days.

The account is closed per Spotify email:


This is our last goodbye
Thanks, XXXXX (my Spotify account user name) Your Spotify account is now closed.
You can reactivate it within the next 7 days by clicking the button below. After 7 days, your account cannot be reactivated (but you can always create a new one).
REACTIVATE MY ACCOUNT
If we don’t see you again, we wish you a fond farewell!

[The Mouth]

58. They also really screw the musicians

Badly

[Traildogbob]

59. FFS

Let’s boycott Sirius, they have lots of right wing crap. Even Fox, let’s cut all cables to TV, Fox, OAN and News Max, let’s burn our dishes, Fox News Max, endless Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Baker, and Jesus 24/7, Never watch anymore Fox Sports Channels, let’s never watch local TV again, most are Fox owned, Boycott Swanson dinners to cancel Tuckero Rose, anybody playing Clapton cancel em, burn your TV’s, and Radios, Apple still plays Clapton and Kid Rock, cancel em, burn all Apple equipment.
I love Neil, admire his stance, Manlow never listen to em. Not gonna cancel Spotify. Love my music and access to endless music and lyrics. Fuck Joe Rogen, never been there never will. Not gonna cancel Sirius and their Progressive shows because of the other shit they carry. Damn sure not gonna allow right wing nuts to dictate what media I will use. Casual listeners of music, do not use all the amazing things offered from Spotify. My phone is a Mobile juke box to me, the primary use of my phone. I have Apple as well. Just like Spotify more. I donate every fund raising time Free Speech TV needs it. 4 times annually. That is my way to fight Rogen. I’m gonna keep on rocking on MY hikes, XC skiing, with my 3 years of searching and hand selecting my playlists. Boycott Jesus, many many churches are pushing anti Vax shit and lies. Support all you canceling and feeling proud, just not gonna join in. Disappointed in Spotify stance, maybe you guys will get em to remove the ass hole. Mean while, my Playlist when I play live, is loaded with never heard of artists to most. BY the way, I never tweet, no account, and never had a Facebook page. That’s my contribution to not spread bullshit.

[rockfordfile]

65. Like I told the other poster. Never heard of the un-American right-wing pos until lately

It's time to cancel and get rid of a company that supports a pos pushing anti-vaccination lies. Spotify might as well support Putin.

By still contributing to pos company like Spotify you really don't mean what you say.

[Traildogbob]

70. You be you

My 3 dollars a Month is not supporting Putin. You Cancel everything that carries Tucker, anything Fox. Like I said, I give to Free Speech TV every 3 months, do not do Twitter or Face book. So if me listening to Music make me Russian, too bad. I served this country 8 years, and your idiotic attack insults me. I cancel Christianity, lies and anti Vax. Many many liberal people work at Spotify, they are not pro Putin. As dumb as burning books and Albums because it pushes something you don’t like. Fuck Rogen, I care less. People that wanna hear the shit will find it wherever it is. Are you on Face Book and Twitter. That make you much more pro Putin than me streaming music. And Boycott what you want, I will do the same. I never said I condemn those that do. Actually support their choice. Just ain’t gonna cancel Spotify for tha asshole. Nyet!!!

[Skittles]

80. we get it

you care more about your music than you do about public health

WHATEVER

PS I already "boycott Jesus", cable, local TV, etc

[NurseJackie]

61. I enjoy our Premium Spotify account. I'm not going to cancel it.

(I'm also not going to "cancel" my Facebook account either.)

[rockfordfile]

62. Then you support that whatever his name is pos anti-vaccination lies propaganda

Spotify that pos company should be gone. No excuses.

[NurseJackie]

67. Sure, whatever. 🙄🙄

Then you support that whatever his name is pos anti-vaccination lies propaganda

Sure, whatever.

[Sympthsical]

63. It's just the twitter thing of the week

I'm not cancelling mine either. I have a bluetooth speaker I move around the house with me as I do things.

Given how cable news is funded (hey, pharma!), and the slavish devotion to it by the Twitterati, I find stuff like this kind of amusing.

"I shall cancel Spotify!" *posted from my phone made by slave labor in my pajamas sewn by children* It's literally the least you can do. The very least.

Given the music industry and those who populate it, there's a lot of not great people on these services. I'm just sayin', Chris Brown is still chuggin' along. Where's that campaign?

I'm always fascinated, though, about how the seeding of social media works. How one thing can become The Thing for a moment. Until next week when there's this New Thing. And we must all care about that for as long as the attention span holds out.

Did everyone see American chocolate companies are getting sued for using slave labor? Of course not, because the take away this week on Twitter is the new ad campaign. Sharp cookies over there. Always got their fingers on the pulse of important shit.

[NurseJackie]

68. We don't always agree... but on this we think alike.

[jcgoldie]

72. Nice whataboutism

The point is Joe Rogan sends out a podcast to 11 million people every day spewing false anti-vax ideology. Spotify provides the platform for this and pays multimillions to do it. Neil Young has forced spotify to take a stand on the issue and people can adjust their spending accordingly if they GAF which you evidently do not.

[cadoman]

84. pro-Spotify pro-Rogan anti-Vaccine anti-Science anti-Safety Fascist

The logic checks out. Thank you for joining us in cancelling Spotify and fighting fascism!

[cinematicdiversions]

98. And people who watch Rachel on cable are directly funding

Tucker Carlson and Fox News.

Why are we not calling them out?

[USALiberal]

73. I'll alert the media! Nt

[NurseJackie]

75. Whew! What a relief!

[USALiberal]

76. :-)

[USALiberal]

64. This is NOT true! Nt

[ecstatic]

71. wtf?

[BlackSkimmer]

74. This is not true.

I love how people believe everything they read on Twitter.

[bigtree]

88. did you look at the tweet date?? Spotify was not responding to cancellation requests on that date

...did you look at the edit?

[PittBlue]

82. We cancelled...plenty of other options to stream music.

[dwayneb]

89. Cancelled Spotify some time ago

In addition to broadcasting the views of a nut like Joe Rogan, really disliked their interface and the features of the streaming service. Spotify will lose business over this decision no doubt about that.