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Putin surrenders to Irish fisherman: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Jan 2022 OP
Yup Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #1
Doesn't this sound like an old Ealing Studios film...? First Speaker Jan 2022 #2
Yes it does nuxvomica Jan 2022 #17
Eirinn go Brach!! Maeve Jan 2022 #3
Sounds like a movie! PatSeg Jan 2022 #4
Fantastic! KT2000 Jan 2022 #5
I assume Tucker Carlson is incensed by the mean Irish fisherman bullying Russia's innocent navy. nt Gore1FL Jan 2022 #6
Damn. I wanted to see the entire Irish fishing fleet swarming the Russian ships. roamer65 Jan 2022 #7
There were over 800 private boats at Dunkirk. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #47
The soft talking guy on the right (Allen?)...Good God in Butter I wouldn't want to tangle with him. Botany Jan 2022 #8
Did you notice BonnieJW Jan 2022 #35
Aye Boris don't make us send Allen to be looking for ya. I promise it will not work out for ya. Botany Jan 2022 #40
Russian sailors should never consider shore leave on Irish soil. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #48
Well done, Ireland!!! Karadeniz Jan 2022 #9
Russian just took a hit on their broadside!!! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #10
Russian oligarchy is vulnerable because they hide their loot overseas. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #60
Is Putin trying to start WWIII? His popularity must be waning at home, so he's gotta pick fights. C Moon Jan 2022 #11
Diplomacy 101: Try asking nicely FIRST. Sometimes it works...as in this case. FailureToCommunicate Jan 2022 #12
I guess the Russians figured out how bad it would look if they went through with their plans ShazzieB Jan 2022 #13
Yes What would have happened if Putin had harmed Irish fishermen? Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #49
The Russians didn't surrender. marie999 Jan 2022 #14
I assure you the US Navy has nothing in common with Putin. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #43
The Russians aren't coming! The Russians aren't coming! lpbk2713 Jan 2022 #15
Send the Irish fishermen to . . . AverageOldGuy Jan 2022 #16
lol Cha Jan 2022 #29
Good one. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #44
Quick, Vladdy! Take off your shirt and hop on Trump's back! Natal Jan 2022 #18
So many of you make it sound that Russia just lost a war. It was diplomacy. marie999 Jan 2022 #19
Oh, it's a big deal. Joinfortmill Jan 2022 #23
How is it a big deal? marie999 Jan 2022 #25
Yesterday Putin contradicted what the ambassador said to Patrick Murphy. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #31
He didn't cave, these are fishing boats, not the 6th fleet. marie999 Jan 2022 #32
"He talked to the diplomat again and decided," i.e., CAVED. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #34
caved, yielding or submitting under pressure marie999 Jan 2022 #38
World public opinion. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #41
Except the Russian diplomat claimed publicly there was no agreement. LiberalFighter Jan 2022 #58
great story NJCher Jan 2022 #20
Of all the fishing areas in the world why there? n/t Peregrine Took Jan 2022 #21
Rachel Maddow suggested it was because transatlantic internet cables are there. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #33
Exactly. niyad Jan 2022 #52
Now, that's called standing your ground. Joinfortmill Jan 2022 #22
These are my people.. and God knows I love them Peacetrain Jan 2022 #24
And that is what the Russian diplomat thought also. marie999 Jan 2022 #26
That was a Delight to hear.. Cha Jan 2022 #27
100% I could have seen my Irish father among them. BadgerMom Jan 2022 #28
Putin knows hurting one of those fishermen would turn the world against him. SunSeeker Jan 2022 #30
This was top secret back room diplomacy of the highest order. Xolodno Jan 2022 #36
Russian/Irish drinking contest. My God. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #42
Shuddering here. Need caffeine after that image! niyad Jan 2022 #53
Right, I am putting an extra tea bag in the pot to cope. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #57
"Out ya go. 3Hotdogs Jan 2022 #37
I know, great quote from Patrick Murphy. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #46
--- or London''s "Mind the gap." 3Hotdogs Jan 2022 #50
Exactly. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #56
Proving once again Putin is a poor man's idea of a tough guy Generic Brad Jan 2022 #39
After 1000 yrs of British terror, the Irish aren't long on a new overlord telling them what to do. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #45
The Second Cod War won handily. Harker Jan 2022 #51
Poor slap dick tucker. The Jungle 1 Jan 2022 #54
Now we know a bit more about Russian cost/benefit analysis housecat Jan 2022 #55
I LOVED the announcement from a leader of the Irish Fishermen advocacy group: calimary Jan 2022 #59

Gore1FL

(22,947 posts)
6. I assume Tucker Carlson is incensed by the mean Irish fisherman bullying Russia's innocent navy. nt
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 05:26 PM
Jan 2022

roamer65

(37,945 posts)
7. Damn. I wanted to see the entire Irish fishing fleet swarming the Russian ships.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jan 2022

It would have probably looked like the Dunkerque floatilla.

Irish_Dem

(81,133 posts)
47. There were over 800 private boats at Dunkirk.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:33 AM
Jan 2022

That would have been amazing to see so many Irish private boats stand up to the Russian navy.

If Putin had fired on one of the boats, there would have been severe international outrage.

Botany

(77,266 posts)
8. The soft talking guy on the right (Allen?)...Good God in Butter I wouldn't want to tangle with him.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 05:31 PM
Jan 2022

In America we call somebody like that, "farm boy strong."

BonnieJW

(3,121 posts)
35. Did you notice
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:03 PM
Jan 2022

that Allen is in shirt sleeves while the other 2 men are bundled up against what has to be frigid weather this time of year in Ireland

Botany

(77,266 posts)
40. Aye Boris don't make us send Allen to be looking for ya. I promise it will not work out for ya.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 08:23 PM
Jan 2022



Now that we got this stuff all cleaned up come and have a pint or two up @ MaCarthy's.

Irish_Dem

(81,133 posts)
48. Russian sailors should never consider shore leave on Irish soil.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:35 AM
Jan 2022

It would not go well for them.

C Moon

(13,629 posts)
11. Is Putin trying to start WWIII? His popularity must be waning at home, so he's gotta pick fights.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 05:58 PM
Jan 2022

ShazzieB

(22,560 posts)
13. I guess the Russians figured out how bad it would look if they went through with their plans
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:03 PM
Jan 2022

and any of those fishermen were harmed (which would have been very hard to avoid).

Pootie knows he doesn't need that kind of bad p.r.!

Irish_Dem

(81,133 posts)
49. Yes What would have happened if Putin had harmed Irish fishermen?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:37 AM
Jan 2022

The global community would have been furious.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
14. The Russians didn't surrender.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jan 2022

They did what I hope the U.S. Navy would do in a similar situation.

 

Natal

(40 posts)
18. Quick, Vladdy! Take off your shirt and hop on Trump's back!
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jan 2022

Unlike the Irish, he buys your Macho Man pose hook, line and sucker!

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
19. So many of you make it sound that Russia just lost a war. It was diplomacy.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jan 2022

The Russian diplomat talked to the fishermen and the problem went away. It was no big deal.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
25. How is it a big deal?
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:35 PM
Jan 2022

The fishermen didn't want the Russian navy practicing where they fish. The Russian diplomat talked to them and agreed with them.

SunSeeker

(58,250 posts)
31. Yesterday Putin contradicted what the ambassador said to Patrick Murphy.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:48 PM
Jan 2022
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/russians-deny-fishermen-s-claims-on-naval-drills-buffer-zone-1.4787859


Today, Putin caved. That's a big deal.

It shows Putin cannot take the glare of bad PR. It's a good lesson for the future in handling the murderous kleptocrat.
 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
32. He didn't cave, these are fishing boats, not the 6th fleet.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jan 2022

I am sure he talked to the diplomat again and decided on what was the best way to handle the situation.

SunSeeker

(58,250 posts)
34. "He talked to the diplomat again and decided," i.e., CAVED.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:00 PM
Jan 2022

Did you read the story at the link? Yesterday, Putin rejected any buffer zone. Today, he accepted it. That's CAVING.

Even a murderous kleptocrat knows when he's been outmaneuvered. They didn't need the 6th Fleet. The fishermen had won public opinion.

SunSeeker

(58,250 posts)
41. World public opinion.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 08:31 PM
Jan 2022

The Irish fisherman had won public opinion. They put a glaring spotlight on what Putin was doing, and he was unable to maintain the narrative he was pushing yesterday. He knew he lost the public relations battle with the fisherman, so he caved.

NJCher

(43,102 posts)
20. great story
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:23 PM
Jan 2022

I've been following it on Rachel, who is having all too much fun with this showdown.




SunSeeker

(58,250 posts)
33. Rachel Maddow suggested it was because transatlantic internet cables are there.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:55 PM
Jan 2022

If Putin invades Ukraine, he'll want to cut those cables to make it harder for the US and NATO/Europe to communicate.

Apparently Putin already threatened the cables outside Finland.

Peacetrain

(24,288 posts)
24. These are my people.. and God knows I love them
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:32 PM
Jan 2022

Both of my parents extended families came mostly from Ireland, Scotland and Wales and some were English... and I have said it before.. do not mess with the Irish..for they will crawl out of their own graves to throttle you back to the stone age if you mess with their families. And that is exactly what the Russians were doing for other reasons but they were messing with how these men live..

SunSeeker

(58,250 posts)
30. Putin knows hurting one of those fishermen would turn the world against him.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:44 PM
Jan 2022

Well done, Patrick Murphy!

Xolodno

(7,349 posts)
36. This was top secret back room diplomacy of the highest order.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:10 PM
Jan 2022

The Russian diplomat came in with vodka and the Irish diplomat came with whiskey. Whoever passed out first had to back down.

Irish_Dem

(81,133 posts)
57. Right, I am putting an extra tea bag in the pot to cope.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:08 PM
Jan 2022

So you put out bottles of vodka and Jameson in front of Russian sailors and Irish fisherman.

We can clearly see how this would go. Both the Russians and Irish can drink a great deal, they love to fight, and are also very sentimental.

So they will drink to oblivion, have a bar fight and then be best friends.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
39. Proving once again Putin is a poor man's idea of a tough guy
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:38 PM
Jan 2022

Isn't he getting tired of failing and embarrassing himself constantly?

Not so tough when you can't have your thugs throw them out of a window headfirst or poison them like a mega coward.

Irish_Dem

(81,133 posts)
45. After 1000 yrs of British terror, the Irish aren't long on a new overlord telling them what to do.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:20 AM
Jan 2022
 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
54. Poor slap dick tucker.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:07 AM
Jan 2022

He has nothing left. The great nation of Ireland made a fool out of him. Now he is reduced to beating off looking at vintage M&M pictures.
What kind of weirdo thinks a female depiction of an M&M is sexy. Makes ya wonder what goes on in his bed.

calimary

(89,940 posts)
59. I LOVED the announcement from a leader of the Irish Fishermen advocacy group:
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jan 2022

His message to his colleagues: “Off ye go! Fish away!”

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