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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:26 AM Jan 2022

The disgraced ex-President has no other option but to pretend he is running again in 2024.

It keeps up the spirits of his MAGA followers.

It keeps his stream of revenue coming in.

It keeps the media talking about him.

But, most of all, he thinks it protects him from criminal indictment.

Once he is charged, his presidential ambitions will disappear like a puff of smoke.

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The disgraced ex-President has no other option but to pretend he is running again in 2024. (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2022 OP
He has had a taste of power, and immunity from the law Walleye Jan 2022 #1
No. He is running scared from the sword of justice, it's obvious. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #7
That's true, but his whole life is a delusion to him. Walleye Jan 2022 #10
Frankly don't much care what the demon thinks, only care what the judge and jury Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #11
Agree with all of that. Throw the fucking book at him Walleye Jan 2022 #22
I can only hope llashram Jan 2022 #27
I don't think he's just pretending to run Poiuyt Jan 2022 #2
Yep, I think the same, that he will run. It's in him and he really has nothing to lose, and RKP5637 Jan 2022 #13
+1. Agree, even if he's charged I think he'll run. radius777 Jan 2022 #32
Trump will run if he is alive dwayneb Jan 2022 #56
Very astute point Mr. Ected Jan 2022 #3
He is so pathetic at this point ... NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #4
Hate to admit, a tiny sliver of sadness for him is forming...it will go away soon I hope. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #8
Yeah, he'll open his mouth PatSeg Jan 2022 #30
Yes, all tru. However what I meant to convey is the whole circus, the whole media circus, Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #52
Yes, it isn't all about him PatSeg Jan 2022 #55
Mostly, it keeps the his stream of revenue coming in. GoCubsGo Jan 2022 #5
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2022 #14
My thoughts exactly. paleotn Jan 2022 #25
That's what I'm thinking PatSeg Jan 2022 #33
Yep, and he probably has "COVID brain." too. GoCubsGo Jan 2022 #45
Oh yes, I'd forgotten about the long term effects of COVID PatSeg Jan 2022 #48
Running for President was the most stupid thing Trump ever did in his life. GoCubsGo Jan 2022 #49
I think arrogance was the primary reason he did something so stupid PatSeg Jan 2022 #54
that's all llashram Jan 2022 #31
Not sure about that. What 2020 showed was a very ugly face of American that has been around since JohnSJ Jan 2022 #6
Yep, it never seems to go away. At one time I had thought much of it had gone away, RKP5637 Jan 2022 #15
Trump wants to run again because politics was the best grift he ever found. sop Jan 2022 #9
If he is still healthy we will be running again in 2024. Jacson6 Jan 2022 #12
I think he'll run. And I think there will be enough crazies in the local election positions Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #16
Latest poll for '24 President Biden 44% the orange mass 33% PortTack Jan 2022 #17
Now pull up the early 2015 polls on TFG's prospects. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #18
JMHO.. '15 just doesn't correlate PortTack Jan 2022 #23
I've been watching this guy from fairly close up for 40 years. IMHO, he is a Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #24
as a puppet of Putin llashram Jan 2022 #35
That was before most people knew what he REALLY was. oldsoftie Jan 2022 #28
they did? llashram Jan 2022 #36
Maybe "MANY" is the wrong choice of words. "SOME". Remember Oprah? oldsoftie Jan 2022 #51
That was the latest Marquette poll Poiuyt Jan 2022 #46
Too much cognitive decline. paleotn Jan 2022 #26
How long before republican congress Beachnutt Jan 2022 #19
If they were going to, they would have already. They are cowards. Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #20
2024 is a long ways off. What we are seeing is pure grift, raking in money in huge piles. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #21
"How do you milk sheep?" PatSeg Jan 2022 #37
Rally sign is definitely sarcastic. Spelling and grammar are correct. housecat Jan 2022 #40
Whatever it takes to keep the money rolling in. twodogsbarking Jan 2022 #29
The disgraced President is only disgraced in the eyes of around 50% of the people. Thomas Hurt Jan 2022 #34
former or latter llashram Jan 2022 #39
His Current Approval Rating Is Under 33% ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #42
I think he will try to run even if indicted, but indictment will cause many donors to bail Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #38
I suspect that the day an indictment comes down Bettie Jan 2022 #41
If simply running for office would preclude one from facing criminal indictment Lettuce Be Jan 2022 #43
It's what Putin wants NewHendoLib Jan 2022 #44
Grifters Grift. Tommymac Jan 2022 #47
For only pretending to run sarisataka Jan 2022 #50
He's like a boogeyman. I think we have to take his threat to run seriously. ecstatic Jan 2022 #53

Walleye

(31,062 posts)
1. He has had a taste of power, and immunity from the law
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jan 2022

He won’t rest until he gets it again or dies first or goes to prison

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
7. No. He is running scared from the sword of justice, it's obvious.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jan 2022

The power he pretends to have is an illusion. Twitter was all he had to propagandize, now he got these lame rallies where the media mainly just mocks him and his maga army of geriatrics with a Twitter machine.

His brownshirts are in jail, his chief advisor under indictment, soon his chief coup strategist, the subpoena machine copier is overheating, more to come……imagine that happening in 1930s Germany…they had the chance and didn’t take it. America did and will continue to do justice to democracy.

Walleye

(31,062 posts)
10. That's true, but his whole life is a delusion to him.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jan 2022

Do narcissists think that everything is going to work out for them despite the odds against them?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. Frankly don't much care what the demon thinks, only care what the judge and jury
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:41 AM
Jan 2022

thinks of the mountain of evidence of sedition.

Narcissists don’t get any breaks from prosecutors, judges, juries or the evidence, so man can think things will,work out for him all he likes.

🤲✌️

Poiuyt

(18,130 posts)
2. I don't think he's just pretending to run
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:29 AM
Jan 2022

I believe he will run. I don't think he can win, but I'm not so sure.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
13. Yep, I think the same, that he will run. It's in him and he really has nothing to lose, and
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jan 2022

his loony fans give him the attention he craves as leader of the cult. I certainly hope he could not win, but the US is filled with crazies and assholes, power grabbers and politicians who want to go for a ride which does add uncertainty ...

radius777

(3,635 posts)
32. +1. Agree, even if he's charged I think he'll run.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jan 2022

Trump is addicted to attention and the spotlight, and the nomination is his on a platter if he decides to run.

If Dem poll numbers don't improve by 2024 (which I think they will) then Trump surely can win, especially with all of the new voter suppression laws the GOP has put in place.

dwayneb

(768 posts)
56. Trump will run if he is alive
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jan 2022

Trump is 100% predictable. This megalomaniac will use the last breath in his body to run in 2024.

Winning outright? Unlikely but not impossible if Biden's approval continues to decline. "Win" by legislative coup? His goose-steppers will be setting the stage in 2022 if (when) they gain control of Congress.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
3. Very astute point
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:29 AM
Jan 2022

I would go so far as to say that the #1 mission of our criminal justice system at this very moment is to ensure that Trump never runs for public office again. What taint to his standing can the Congress place upon him (for instance, censure) that would prevent him from being able to run? Is criminal indictment enough?

NanceGreggs

(27,819 posts)
4. He is so pathetic at this point ...
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:32 AM
Jan 2022

... I'd almost feel sorry for him - if he had a single redeeming value.

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
30. Yeah, he'll open his mouth
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jan 2022

and that tiny sliver will magically disappear. In that sense, it is probably a good thing that he keeps saying stupid, offensive crap, so we don't get soft and forget what a monster he is.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
52. Yes, all tru. However what I meant to convey is the whole circus, the whole media circus,
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 09:28 AM
Jan 2022

the whole kit and kaboodle is so evil and now so obvious, it’s just a sliver of sadness for the demon and also for the koolaide drinkers….how sad is it that common folks in the millions need to feel uplifted by a demon?

All the while with a honking big Jebsus Cross on their necks? Why doesn’t that Cross burn them?

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
55. Yes, it isn't all about him
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jan 2022

It is about the people we share our world with, people who blindly supported a monster and seemed to have lost their minds. We've all known these people throughout our lives, but I don't think any of us could imagine them turning into such hate-filled, irrational freaks, at least not in such great numbers. I suppose if it hadn't been Trump, some other carnival barker would have materialized and led the flock to insanity. They were waiting and ready for a leader. It truly is a massive cult.

As for Jesus, Trump is their new religion.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
5. Mostly, it keeps the his stream of revenue coming in.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jan 2022

In fact, it's pretty much his sole purpose. He doesn't really give a shit about his followers, beyond how much money they're willing to throw at him. He'll never actually come out and say he's running again, because when he does, he knows he can no longer funnel that money into his own bank account. The lights are on all over, and cockroach has no dark places to hide when it comes to campaign finance laws.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
25. My thoughts exactly.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:49 PM
Jan 2022

Plus, two more years of cognitive decline will render him a squirming mass of jello if he's still alive. I stand by my prediction in 2020 that he won't be physically able to mount a serious campaign in 2024.

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
33. That's what I'm thinking
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:04 PM
Jan 2022

I don't think he could handle a long campaign. He never looked healthy, but he looks really bad these days. That drive and energy that he had back in 2015 and 2016 seems to be gone. He looks like he could have a stroke or a heart attack any day now, if he hasn't already.

I also agree with GoCubsGo - If he announces he is running, he won't be able to funnel donations into his own bank account. Hmm, that makes me wonder if the IRS is paying attention to those donations.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
45. Yep, and he probably has "COVID brain." too.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:49 PM
Jan 2022

Many of us believe he's probably a long-hauler, and has the "brain fog" that goes with it. He was already deteriorating before he got it, due to dementia/Alzheimer's/tertiary syphilis/drug use/previous stroke/all of the above/some of the above/whatever. It has only gotten worse since his bout with COVID. So has the huffing and puffing and snorting, although some of that's probably due to whatever he's snorting before he goes on stage.

I'm sure the IRS is paying attention. So are SDNY and Tish James, and a whole bunch of others.

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
48. Oh yes, I'd forgotten about the long term effects of COVID
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:37 PM
Jan 2022

Someone with his health and terrible lifestyle would be very vulnerable. Combine that with his age, type-A personality, and a genetic predisposition for dementia, you have a perfect storm. It is only a matter of time and I think his time is running out.

As for his finances, right now everything about his life is under the microscope, but he is functioning pretty much the way he always has, only probably more careless and reckless. He should have stayed out of politics. He was asking for his life to be exposed down to every ugly detail, but he just couldn't help himself. Most of us know how this movie ends. I wonder if Donald does.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
49. Running for President was the most stupid thing Trump ever did in his life.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:50 PM
Jan 2022

I don't know if it was cluelessness and stupidity, or sheer "I always will get away with it" arrogance, but he sure as hell didn't think things through before he decided to run. And, yep. It's just a matter of time. The only question is what runs out first? His shitty health, or his luck regarding the law?

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
54. I think arrogance was the primary reason he did something so stupid
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 10:28 AM
Jan 2022

It didn't help that he was ignorant about politics and government. When he started to be unexpectedly successful on the campaign trail, I think it went to his head and he started to believe his own bullshit. He was like a guy on cocaine who thinks he is Superman and can do anything.

His health and luck with the law will probably run out simultaneously, the legal problems contributing to his health issues.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
31. that's all
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jan 2022

the TPOSFG is trying and doing. Raking in the cash...he and his family of grifter and cronies learned, during his time in office, what the supergrift can do to enrich them. They do not want to lose this. Ideological dummies on their coat sleeves and spectre of burning books and sending us to the American gulags. That's part of their fantasy.

JohnSJ

(92,422 posts)
6. Not sure about that. What 2020 showed was a very ugly face of American that has been around since
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jan 2022

its inception, through the Civil War, through the Civil Rights movement, and is currently in a resurgence today.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
15. Yep, it never seems to go away. At one time I had thought much of it had gone away,
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jan 2022

but here we are again with it out in full force. It's sad, pathetic and dangerous, and the EX-president feeds off of it. He's like a demon that craves and feeds off of negative energy.

sop

(10,265 posts)
9. Trump wants to run again because politics was the best grift he ever found.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jan 2022

Real estate fraud pales in comparison. Additionally, the presidency gave him immunity from prosecution. He realizes the walls are closing in, so the sooner he launches his '24 campaign, the more plausible his claims of "political persecution by the Biden administration" will seem to his gullible followers, and his fellow travelers in government and media.

Scrivener7

(51,021 posts)
16. I think he'll run. And I think there will be enough crazies in the local election positions
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jan 2022

that it will be a fight.

This is trouble.

Scrivener7

(51,021 posts)
24. I've been watching this guy from fairly close up for 40 years. IMHO, he is a
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jan 2022

corruption shark. He needs to keep moving forward, shitting on the rest of us and ruining everything around him, to survive. He will do anything he needs to do to win, up to and including ruining the United States of America. We have seen that in action.

Neither of us knows though. Only time will tell.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
35. as a puppet of Putin
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jan 2022

the ruination of our democracy is a goal, I'm sure. Why the so-called MSM won't search out this connection more and really never did, I just don't understand. With the sexual pervert/predator that TPOSFG is, it seems to me very plausible trump did some things in Russia that can help hang this POS.

oldsoftie

(12,615 posts)
28. That was before most people knew what he REALLY was.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jan 2022

And enamored by stardom. Don't forget, in the past many prominent Democrats had told him he should run. NONE of them would say it now that he's been exposed

oldsoftie

(12,615 posts)
51. Maybe "MANY" is the wrong choice of words. "SOME". Remember Oprah?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 04:21 PM
Jan 2022

Even the WaPo did an article on Bill Clinton encouraging him to play a bigger part in the GOP. Oprah did an interview with him and brought it up. Larry King did the same. he mentioned running with Oprah as his VP. Until he went in on Press Obama, he always talked a good bit about things the average voter cared about. Then he lost it over Obama's "birth certificate". He has always been a bullshitter & conman. We just didn't realize how far above "show business BS" it actually was.

Poiuyt

(18,130 posts)
46. That was the latest Marquette poll
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:17 PM
Jan 2022

The composite average is much closer. Realclearpolitics has Trump beating Biden in the composite (though that's skewed by Rassmussen).

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
26. Too much cognitive decline.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jan 2022

He won't be able to make serious run in 2024. Anyone who's lived through that with their parents or grandparents knows the signs. It's not a linear decline. It's exponential. Right now, he's a shell of what he was while in office.

Beachnutt

(7,342 posts)
19. How long before republican congress
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:13 PM
Jan 2022

people, romney, or others throw in the towel and turn on him or will they.

Scrivener7

(51,021 posts)
20. If they were going to, they would have already. They are cowards.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jan 2022

They WILL eventually turn on him, but none of them will go out on a limb to do it. They will only do it when they have total cover for doing so.

When the polls of the MAGA faction turn on him, so will they. But not until then.

AND, as long as he is roaming around making speeches like the one he made yesterday, and as long as he is not exposed by the DOJ as the crook he is, the MAGA faction will continue to worship him and their worship will only grow stronger.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
21. 2024 is a long ways off. What we are seeing is pure grift, raking in money in huge piles.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:20 PM
Jan 2022

#FailedCoupGuy is the envy of all the scamming preachers.





Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
34. The disgraced President is only disgraced in the eyes of around 50% of the people.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jan 2022

The disgraced President is a malignant narcissist who has had four years of adoration, power, and a good level of immunity.

This was his new narcissistic high, he is not going back. In fact, IMO, the Pig went into this in 2016 fully intending to become America's Putin. Thus his fascination with Putin and parades, Jong-Un in NK, etc.

Cherry on top for the Pig is that he has been able to milk it for money while he was in office and now has become a professional candidate/cult leader. This all adds to the narcissist's high. His time doing tv was a gateway to this.

That a hole isn't going away unless he drops dead or they put him in prison. It is a toss up right now which of those two is more likely.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,659 posts)
38. I think he will try to run even if indicted, but indictment will cause many donors to bail
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jan 2022

Trump’s indictment will be the turning point for the GOP to shift to supporting DeSantis, especially if the big GOP donors shift to him first.

Bettie

(16,129 posts)
41. I suspect that the day an indictment comes down
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jan 2022

he declares "officially" that he is running and will immediately file a lawsuit to stop investigations on the basis that he's a candidate for president.

Doubt it will work, but that's my guess on what passes as a plan for him and his um, clown car of dumbasses.

Lettuce Be

(2,337 posts)
43. If simply running for office would preclude one from facing criminal indictment
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jan 2022

everyone would run for office. It'd be a free pass. I feel certain he believes if he runs all criminal/civil actions against him would have to stop and that's simply not the case.

sarisataka

(18,779 posts)
50. For only pretending to run
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:58 PM
Jan 2022

he sure generates lot's of concern and fear.

Of course I recall his first campaign was only a publicity stunt. He didn't really want to be President. I guess the joke was on him.

ecstatic

(32,733 posts)
53. He's like a boogeyman. I think we have to take his threat to run seriously.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 09:39 AM
Jan 2022

Or he could spring back to life and this time, the US won't recover. Hell, we still might not fully recover from the untold damage he caused.

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