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1. Nearly 100 AMERICAN Bald Eagles are wintering on Onondaga Lake in Syracuse, NY (in sub-zero temps at times):
https://www.facebook.com/groups/baldeaglesofonondagalake/
2. Onondaga Lake just happens to be the birthplace of DEMOCRACY:
https://www.onondaganation.org/history/
3. The Bald Eagles come to Onondaga Lake because the SEWAGE TREATMENT plant's warm discharge keeps the lake from freezing over in that spot and the Bald Eagles can hunt for fish, their primary FOOD.
Here's an awesome vlog from a man who filmed his experience at Onondaga Lake a couple of weeks ago:
cilla4progress
(24,767 posts)thanks!
Walleye
(31,056 posts)I think it was in Denver, I took it as a good omen
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)and had married his first wife, Neilia Hunter, a student at Syracuse University, in 1966. Per a name origin site, Neilia is Irish and means 'champion'.
wnylib
(21,611 posts)Helen (Greek) and Eleanor (French version of Helen) and Ellen (English shortened form of Eleanor or variant of Helen).
csziggy
(34,137 posts)Outside my window as I was making campaign calls and directing my team.
As indicated in some posts below, the eagle was scavenging a fox carcass and had to chase off vultures to pick at it. But it was amazing to see it - we've had this farm since 1978 and that was the only time I have ever seen an eagle here! A good omen indeed.
Walleye
(31,056 posts)ARPad95
(1,671 posts)2naSalit
(86,780 posts)Fish is not the only food bald eagles eat. They are opportunists and will eat what is available as long as it's made out of meat. Fish is about 3/4 of their diet on average so you are unlikely to see them nesting far from water with fish. Just watch out for small pets and other animals if you have them nesting near you.
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)2naSalit
(86,780 posts)mopinko
(70,219 posts)they've proliferated in my home town, and all along the fox river in northern il.
like these guys, there are sewage outflows. but there are also highways along both sides of the river, so they get road kill, too.
first time i ever saw a bunch of them was on prince edward island, where they were hanging by the fishing boats and processing sheds. like giant seagulls.
twodogsbarking
(9,814 posts)Happy as could be.
Sanity Claws
(21,852 posts)He was visiting from his usual spot in Brooklyn. https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/new-yorkers-rover-bald-eagle-central-park-nyc
There is a nesting pair of bald eagles in the Bronx along the Hudson River.
I know the opening post is about the eagle being an omen. I just revel in the resurgence of these majestic birds.
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)Some guy on the FB group page seems to think if there's no specific law against being within 330 feet of non-actively nesting bald eagles, he should be allowed closer access because he loves them and wants to protect them. Also, the bald eagle is not on the endangered species list anymore so...
https://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/7068.html
The Loss of New York's Bald Eagles
During the 1800s and early 1900s, New York was home to more than 70 nesting pairs of bald eagles, and was the chosen wintering grounds of several hundred. By 1960, the state had only one known active bald eagle nest remaining, and the number of wintering visitors had been reduced to less than a few dozen.
On the bright side, the eagles didn't seem the least bit affected by the loud and long trains that go by their roosting trees along the lake when my husband and I observed them (from a proper distance) yesterday.
patphil
(6,208 posts)James48
(4,440 posts)Of bald eagles in my neighborhood in northern Michigan. Four members of the family this year- two Youngers and two adults. They are soooo beautiful. Bald eagles have been doing great the last couple of years here. A friend has a dozen near her around Bay City, Mi
patphil
(6,208 posts)ARPad95
(1,671 posts)the Haudenosaunee Confederacy:
https://www.haudenosauneeconfederacy.com/who-we-are/
patphil
(6,208 posts)ARPad95
(1,671 posts)The confederacy was founded by the prophet known as the Peacemaker with the help of Aionwatha, more commonly known as Hiawatha.
The sewage treatment plant that is so important to the Bald Eagles (as well as other birds of prey and water fowl) wintering on Onondaga Lake is located on HIAWATHA Boulevard.
Metropolitan Syracuse Wastewater Treatment Plant
Address: 650 Hiawatha Blvd W, Syracuse, NY 13204
wnylib
(21,611 posts)thus the seat of American democracy.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)...every Thanksgiving to celebrate annihilating the Native Tribes.
Interesting what he thought about the Bald Eagle..."Franklin wrote that the Bald Eagle...is a Bird of bad moral Character. He does not get his Living honestly
[he] is too lazy to fish for himself.
About the turkey, Franklin wrote that in comparison to the bald eagle, the turkey is a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America...He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage."
https://www.fi.edu/benjamin-franklin/franklin-national-bird#:~:text=The%20story%20about%20Benjamin%20Franklin,looked%20more%20like%20a%20turkey.
wheee!
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)For the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois Confederacy), the eagle represents the guardian of the Great Law of Peace the code that forged that great league of nations. The image of the eagle is often depicted hovering over the Great Tree of Peace in cultural arts. History reports that the confederacy was formed under the Great Tree of Peace along the shores of Onondaga (Gannentaha) Lake. It would seem that the eagles presence on the lake is an earned and rightful legacy.
wnylib
(21,611 posts)I am not an enrolled member, but am proud to be a descendant of the Onodowaga (Seneca) Nation.
EarthFirst
(2,905 posts)I see them frequently when fly fishing a trout stream local to where I live.
Ive had several take low approaches along the creek in search of their next meal; once even witnessing a large male take a 16 brown trout from the surface of the water and rise above the tree line off into the distance.
Amazing.
I may have to take a drive out to Syracuse here soon.
findeerror
(16 posts)Great link, thanks!!
There's a similar area on the Mississippi at Red Wing, MN where a small regional power plant's warm water discharge clears the ice. From January-March there is typically a good sized group of bald eagles taking advantage of the open water to fish. Often, birdwatchers will bring their scopes and let people look through them for a close up view.
https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/birds/eagles/winter_redwing.html
We see them pretty routinely now, even within the Minneapolis city limits... It's encouraging to see the population growing!
Meadowoak
(5,559 posts)The birthplace of democracy is now home to a sewerage treatment plant. Who planned that out?
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)tRumpism = DIGO (democracy in, garbage out)
Sewage treatment plant = GIDO (garbage in, democracy out)
How's that analogy?
malaise
(269,157 posts)ARPad95
(1,671 posts)Bald Eagles have very keen eyesight after all. Plus a very smart bird!
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Love your video
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)they seemed to culminate this weekend. Then seeing this video today... Wow, I get the whole picture now! IMO, GOOD THINGS are happening and more to come!
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)I lived in Syracuse for a couple of years. I didn't know bald eagles hung out at the lake.
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)When did you live here? I've been here all my life.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)And remained a while after I dropped out. I much prefer the climate in Oakland. But I acquired my love of soul music in Syracuse, and I'll always be grateful for that.
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)put for a bit longer.
I was just a little kid in the 1960s so you got a head start on me with appreciating good soul music.
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)There is a pair that has been nesting 5 miles outside of Pittsburgh (on the Monongahela River) since 2013 and have a loyal following. Two more in Harmarville (on the Allegheny River), as well as other nests at a steel mill and a county park. Cleaner rivers have helped this growth in eagle population.
We don't have enough to have 'fights for food' - but it could be in our future......
Here's a 'cam' site - fun to watch!
https://pixcams.com/hays-bald-eagle-nest/