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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 04:55 PM Jan 2022

Scott Hechinger@ScottHech:*Hundreds* of NYPD steal subway fare & walk through exit gate.











( Fine upstanding folks. )





New York Police Department Overview
This report presents a review of the New York Police Department’s (NYPD) Fiscal 2022 Executive
Budget. The City’s budget for Fiscal 2022 is $98.56 billion. The proposed NYPD expense budget
for Fiscal 2022 is $5.44 billion, representing 5.5 percent of the City’s total. The NYPD budget is
funded primarily through City tax-levy funding - for Fiscal 2022 City funds account for $5.12
billion, or 94 percent, of the total budget.

The Personal Services (PS) budget for Fiscal 2022 is approximately $5 billion, representing 92
percent of NYPD’s budget allocated to salaries, wages, and overtime for its workforce. The total
budgeted headcount for Fiscal 2022 is 52,482 which consists of 35,030 uniform members of
service, 15,646 civilian personnel, and 1,806 full-time equivalents.
https://council.nyc.gov/budget/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2021/05/NYPD.pdf











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Scott Hechinger@ScottHech:*Hundreds* of NYPD steal subway fare & walk through exit gate. (Original Post) BeckyDem Jan 2022 OP
These are uniformed, on-duty officers? Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2022 #1
Why would it be free? They're not policing that area. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #2
Okay so you're saying they're not actually on-duty? Then that explains the problem, thx (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2022 #5
For me the worst of their arrogance is not masking up. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #6
You're correct in that these officers were ON-DUTY, returning Totally Tunsie Jan 2022 #13
Well, I'm not 'correct' really, I was just asking a question :) Hugh_Lebowski Jan 2022 #14
They also get free coffee at the 7-Eleven. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2022 #3
Right, along with no masks. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #4
Aren't they returning from the funeral of the Brooklyn officer Totally Tunsie Jan 2022 #7
Could be, you may be right. No masks should not ever happen. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #8
Honestly, I think this post should be deleted as frivolous. Totally Tunsie Jan 2022 #9
Cops without masks may be frivolous to you, not to me. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #10
Perhaps you should have retitled your post as Totally Tunsie Jan 2022 #11
It's ok, their arrogance is on full display. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #12
The twitter guy is spreading misinformation. It's so disappointing to see it in a headline here. lapucelle Jan 2022 #15
Free rides for maskless cops, for whom rules don't apply. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #16
What makes you think police unions are not fighting for stronger gun laws & rigorous enforcement lapucelle Jan 2022 #17
March, I said, march...as in to DC, their union leaders. BeckyDem Jan 2022 #18
I accept your concession on the point that police unions are advocating for stronger gun laws, lapucelle Jan 2022 #19
lol BeckyDem Jan 2022 #20
Some here do not get their "news" from tik-tok via twitter and would never allow misinformation lapucelle Jan 2022 #21

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
13. You're correct in that these officers were ON-DUTY, returning
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 06:26 PM
Jan 2022

from the funeral of their slain brother officer for whom a massive ceremony had just been completed.

Attendance at funerals of fellow officers is considered compensated time/travel.

https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=TkUKzALbhMQDO2T5e7SvM0tWc7L8.....9Y

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. Well, I'm not 'correct' really, I was just asking a question :)
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 07:00 PM
Jan 2022

Thanks for the clarification.

I would presume there are proscribed situations in which LEO's are allowed to use the subway free of charge, and was wondering whether there was evidence this was NOT such a situation.

Sounds like you're saying it IS one, so ... thanks, that's what I was curious about

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
7. Aren't they returning from the funeral of the Brooklyn officer
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 05:15 PM
Jan 2022

who was slain? Would that not be part of their official duties, or at least "tradition"? I can see this "free transportation" being allowed under these circumstances.

The non-masks? OK, different question.

ETA:
https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=TkUKzALbhMQDO2T5e7SvM0tWc7L8.....9Y

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
8. Could be, you may be right. No masks should not ever happen.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 05:17 PM
Jan 2022

That part irks me more than the free ride.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
10. Cops without masks may be frivolous to you, not to me.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 05:29 PM
Jan 2022

I doubt it is insignificant to those who came in contact with them as well.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
11. Perhaps you should have retitled your post as
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 05:37 PM
Jan 2022

"NYC officers refuse to wear masks on subway" rather than perpetuating one tweeter's opinion that these officers are "STEALING" a subway ride.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
12. It's ok, their arrogance is on full display.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 05:43 PM
Jan 2022

Free rides for officers who can't abide by the mask rules.

lapucelle

(18,238 posts)
15. The twitter guy is spreading misinformation. It's so disappointing to see it in a headline here.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 08:48 PM
Jan 2022
FREE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOR POLICE OFFICERS IN CHICAGO AND NEW YORK

By law, Illinois provides “free transportation within any municipality in and by which they are employed for … policemen when in uniform or, when not in uniform, upon presentation of identification as policemen”. (70 ILCS 3605/30) (http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs2.asp?ChapterID=15).

In New York the mayor of each city or incorporated village issues a certificate of appointment to police officers. It specifies the duration of the term in office. With this certificate every police officer can ride on public transportation free of charge, whether in uniform or not, while performing the duties of his office (General Municipal Law. Article 10, § 206). However, in addition, there is a policy which allows police officers off-duty to ride for free on public transportation, according to Sergeant Sherman from the New York Police Department.

All police officers in New York and Illinois are required to act in their “on duty” capacity even when they are officially off-duty.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/2006/rpt/2006-R-0176.htm

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For the record, the unmasked cops should be held to account for going maskless on mass transit.

But that's not the subject of the OP; nor is it the subject of tweet.

And then there's the bewildering parenthetical about "fine upstanding folks" following the misinformation about cops "stealing subway fares".

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One of those "fine upstanding folks", Wilbert Mora, was buried today. He was 27 years old. He was kept on life support by his family long enough for his organs to be harvested for donation.

The other of the "fine upstanding folks", 22 year old rookie Jason Rivera, was buried last week.

They both died in the line of duty, responding to a 911 domestic disturbance call in the Bronx.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
16. Free rides for maskless cops, for whom rules don't apply.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 09:21 PM
Jan 2022

Maybe one day their union leaders will march to DC and demand McConnell pass gun laws that will keep them alive.

lapucelle

(18,238 posts)
17. What makes you think police unions are not fighting for stronger gun laws & rigorous enforcement
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 09:42 PM
Jan 2022

of the laws that exist?

Was that on twitter too?

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International Association of Chiefs of Police Firearms Policy Position Statement

The International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) has long held positions intended to reduce and prevent firearms violence. As law enforcement professionals, it is our duty to protect and serve our communities and display the leadership needed to ensure public safety. As such, the IACP supports legislation and policies that seek to improve the safety of our communities, which in turn enhances the safety of law enforcement officers.

The level of firearm-related injuries and deaths in the United States, which includes homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings, is unacceptable and demands immediate attention. Since 2000, over 500,000 Americans have lost their lives to firearms violence which averages to over 31,000 firearm deaths per year1. While acts of terrorism and mass shootings receive the most media coverage, gun violence claims lives every day in cities and towns throughout the United States. Acknowledging that any death by a firearm is equally tragic, regardless of the cause, the call to action remains the same – to safeguard the public and those who put their lives on the line each day to ensure the safety and well-being of communities.

Outlined in this position paper are common sense polices that would assist in reducing gun violence, while upholding the second amendment.

https://www.theiacp.org/sites/default/files/2019-05/IACP%20Firearms%20Position%20Paper_2018%20(1).pdf

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As States Expand Gun Rights, the Police Object

Guns in bars. Guns in airports. Guns in day care centers and sports arenas. Conservative state lawmakers around the country are pressing to weaken an array of gun regulations, in some cases greatly expanding where owners can carry their weapons.

But the legislators are encountering stiff opposition from what has been a trusted ally: law enforcement.

In more than a dozen states with traditions of robust support for gun ownership rights, and where legislatures have moved to relax gun laws during the past year, the local police have become increasingly vocal in denouncing the measures. They say the new laws expose officers to greater danger and prevent them from doing their jobs effectively.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/us/as-states-expand-gun-rights-police-join-opposition.html

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Anti-crime plan includes more plainclothes cops on patrol, says NYC Mayor Eric Adams

With gun violence spiking and a cop's shooting death fresh in his mind, Mayor Mayor Eric Adams released a crime-fighting "blueprint" Monday that includes traditional measures like more cops on patrol but also seeks help from Congress.

As part of Adams's proposal, the NYPD will deploy plainclothes cops on modified anti-gun patrols in unmarked cars, and have fewer officers "on desk and staffing events where they are not needed." Instead, "The Blueprint to End Gun Violence" calls for more civilians to do NYPD administrative work and put additional "officers on patrol in key neighborhoods throughout the city."

snip -----------------------------------------------

The mayor's plan got immediate support from the Police Benevolent Association, but also criticism for not going far enough.

"In addition to the measures proposed today, we need an immediate rollback of the entire policy regime that penalizes police officers for proactively confronting lawbreakers," PBA president Patrick Lynch said in a statement, "and we need more resources to relieve the outstretched cops on the front lines."

https://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/mayor-eric-adams-gun-violence-crime-fighting-plan-1.50486625

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
18. March, I said, march...as in to DC, their union leaders.
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 09:48 PM
Jan 2022

Straight to McConnell's office, the main obstacle to gun laws.

lapucelle

(18,238 posts)
19. I accept your concession on the point that police unions are advocating for stronger gun laws,
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 10:02 PM
Jan 2022

but am bemused by the suggestion that if it's not done your particular way, it somehow doesn't count.

lapucelle

(18,238 posts)
21. Some here do not get their "news" from tik-tok via twitter and would never allow misinformation
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 10:20 PM
Jan 2022

to stand once they knew the actual facts.

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