We made a huge mistake not fighting back harder against the "BLM burned down cities" lies.

[Nevilledog]

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Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
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Jan 31, 2022
Madison Cawthorn said during the BLM protests in the summer of 2020 “we had all of our major cities burned to the ground.”


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NC "F̵a̵c̵e̵b̵o̵o̵k̵ Meta Delenda Est" Steve
@TCFKA_NCSteve
This seriously is a widespread belief among Republicans, including the ones who actually live in cities that were supposedly burned to the ground. And, worse, its a belief shared by many of the "swing voter" numbnuts who vote based on their ill-informed guts.
4:31 PM · Jan 31, 2022

We saw it over and over in campaign ads & insurrectionists use it as a justification for storming the Capitol. They're still using it and it's still not true.

[budkin]

1. But a single building damaged by fire in Portland

Clearly is the same as "all major cities burned to the ground."

[Nevilledog]

3. I clearly remember a radio ad by Wendy Rogers spewing this shit.....

Sirens, gunshots, the sounds of a rotating fire were the background for lies about destroyed cities. The blaming of Antifa and BLM for this along with killing tons of police.

[tenderfoot]

6. There were a lot of people on this site spreading the same lies

currently they're feverishly posting bad economy/rising crime/dems not following mask rules crap

[Nevilledog]

8. *sigh*

[Claire Oh Nette]

20. The Headline is misleading and inaccurate.

Rioters targeted the federal courthouse in Portland, Ore., on Thursday evening in renewed clashes between demonstrators and federal police.


Footage showed the rioters attempting to force their way into the courthouse while chanting “f*** the United States!” Later in the evening rioters set a fire outside the courthouse entrance.

"A fire burns in front of the court" house is not
Setting the Federal Building on Fire.

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Reading is Fundamental.

[budkin]

21. This article is from the National Review and...

...quotes a tweet from Andy Ngo.

[CentralMass]

22. Well I've been out in the Portland area for about 7 years and during that time

there have been numerous violent riots with the windows of businesss and government buildings being smashed,,
buildings graffitied. There have been numerous arson attempts on government buildings including police buildings usually while there were emoyees inside. Cars vandalized, some lit on fires, fires lit in the streets etc. To the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars of damage. A relatively small group of violent individuals hijack thr protest and violently riot. They rioted when the Orange Anus was elected.
, during after math of George Floyds death (130 + nights) and even when Joe Biden won. During the massive daytime peaceful protest organized by BLM the marches would finish up around 5 or 6pm and the leaders of the event would state that this event is over, go home. Do not particioate in rioting , that is not what we' are about.. There are some anarchists group that claimed ownership of at least some of the violence like the Pacific Northwest Youth Liberation Front.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/meet-the-youth-liberation-front-the-militant-group-promoting-a-marathon-of-angry-portland-protests/

During the hundreds of night of rioting large numbers of people would stay into into the evening so the crowds were big but ut was a small number of inviduals doing the violence each night up front yet that violence painted groups with a broad brush

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/09/100-days-of-protests-in-portland.html


Here us a generic Google search for rioting in Portland. https://www.google.com/search?q=rioting+in+portland&oq=rioting+in+Portlabd&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l6j0i13i30l2.13679j1j4&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

The mistake was letting a small group of violent protester hijack every protest/cause for their own anarchistic agenda terrorizing the city. The rioting is real and allowing and or silently condoning it is the mistake.

[The Magistrate]

2. It Is Incredible What People Will Believe, Ma'am

I cannot help a note of disdain for the young whippersnapper, having in my youth seen tanks rolling through streets of major American cities to halt civil unrest that did indeed burn portions of them to the ground, or near enough to count, anyway. Nothing that happened in 2020 came close, it was like softball at the park by compare with the big leagues.

[Nevilledog]

5. But we shrug off these demonstrably false lies assuming they're too stupid to be believed.

Yet, the MAGATs are too stupid and do believe. This make believe carnage has become an absolute truth to them.

[blm]

4. RW extremists committed the lion's share of murders and violence during

those protests. Boogaloo Bois killed law enforcement officers and shot at police precincts.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-17/far-right-boogaloo-boys-linked-to-killing-of-california-lawmen-other-violence

https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-floyd-rioting/571932272/

[Nevilledog]

7. And we should have been screaming that over and over again.

[blm]

12. I've posted many links here about it over the last 2 years.

I counter it on other sites as well.

[Nevilledog]

13. Me too. But our candidates should have done ads refuting it.

We are not helping ourselves by not confronting stuff like this. Look at the CRT shit going on....we should be screaming about Chris Rufo and how he made it all up. Most people don't like to find out they're being manipulated. (I say most, because MAGATs)

[blm]

14. I know. I post about it here expecting DUers to spread

the word. Especially those connected to various legislative and campaign offices.

[canuckledragger]

26. I pointhese facts out to lying RW'rs all the time

I post the facts, backed up by real, factual sources showing this any time some MAGAt tries to lie about and smear BLM, etc

[blm]

27. Needs to be done.

Too few of us are countering these lying @ssholes.

[Docreed2003]

9. RWers have been pushing lies about communities of color and cities for decades

This is just the newest bullshit they are pushing. What we should have pushed back harder against are these dangerous mfer's trying to push a white dominant world view of history in the name of protecting kids against "CRT". We're currently seeing states from New Hampshire to the Deep South pushing rules "protecting" students from anything that offends sensibilities. We can't even have an honest conversation about our history with these people.

[Nevilledog]

11. We don't have to pick one issue. Push back against it all!

[Docreed2003]

16. Very true

I didn't mean to suggest that we should only pick one, only that this one is something the right has been pushing for a long time

[Nevilledog]

17. Gotcha

[Hortensis]

10. But easier said? Just look how intractably unkillable deceits

can be even around here among a minority who insist on them. It's not as if by far most people here don't know the truths of whatever the issues are and discuss them over and over.

Of course we need to do anything we can to reach potential swing voters.

While recognizing that authoritarian types on both right and left will insist on pushing whatever they think supports their leaders. Researchers say they more often than not know that they're lying but see it as a virtue. And that's virtually all former tRump voters, not just the crazies -- they've hardened into their positions.

[Nictuku]

15. Every time I hear this Lie it Pisses me off!

The other Lie is about BLM killing that Federal Security Officer in Oakland, and it was one of the Boogaloo guys https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airman-charged-killing-federal-officer-during-george-floyd-protests-california-n1231187

They get away with it because the media lets them. I can't think of any other reason. Shocking thing after shocking thing and it is both side isms.

[electric_blue68]

19. I countered people spreading those lies in FB posts at least.

[JHB]

23. Where would we have done so that would have any impact on these people?

FOX and every other RW outlet were practically humping that theme and it was eagerly consumed by addicts of that brand of political porn. It confirmed preexisting biases: they've equated riots burning cities with minorities and the left since the 60s. They relished "being proved right."

What apparatus do we have that would so much as give them pause, even if only until their next swig of Cousin Tucker's Bathtub & Toilet Bowl Gin?

[betsuni]

24. +1

[Amishman]

25. The 2020 riots were linked to / blamed on BLM, and it stuck

Powerful images like the one below accompanied with phrases like 'after BLM protests, looting and rioting broke out in X'.



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Lets face it, those are very frightening and compelling images. They stick in our memory

The former happened in the same places and the same days as the latter; not because they were directly linked but because both were rooted in the same outrage and unrest.

Correlation is not causation, but the media did us no favors in glossing over the details and distinction