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Karol Cummins
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Trump was more directly involved than previously known in exploring proposals to use his national security agencies to seize voting machines as he grasped unsuccessfully for evidence of fraud that would help him reverse his defeat in the 2020 election.
Rudolph W. Giuliani, Donald J. Trumps personal lawyer, attending a news conference at the White House in September 2020.
nytimes.com
Trump Had Role in Weighing Proposals to Seize Voting Machines
New accounts show that the former president was more directly involved than previously known in plans developed by outside advisers to use national security agencies to seek evidence of fraud.
8:48 PM · Jan 31, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/us/politics/trump-election-fraud.html
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https://archive.fo/J5LZ0
Six weeks after Election Day, with his hold on power slipping, President Donald J. Trump directed his lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to make a remarkable call. Mr. Trump wanted him to ask the Department of Homeland Security if it could legally take control of voting machines in key swing states, three people familiar with the matter said.
Mr. Giuliani did so, calling the departments deputy director, who said he lacked the authority to audit or impound the machines.
Mr. Trump pressed Mr. Giuliani to make that inquiry after rejecting a separate effort by his outside advisers to have the Pentagon take control of the machines. And the outreach to the Department of Homeland Security came not long after Mr. Trump, in an Oval Office meeting with Attorney General William P. Barr, raised the possibility of whether the Justice Department could seize the machines, a previously undisclosed suggestion that Mr. Barr immediately shot down.
The new accounts show that Mr. Trump was more directly involved than previously known in exploring proposals to use his national security agencies to seize voting machines as he grasped unsuccessfully for evidence of fraud that would help him reverse his defeat in the 2020 election, according to people familiar with the episodes.
The existence of proposals to use at least three federal departments to assist Mr. Trumps attempt to stay in power has been publicly known. The proposals involving the Defense Department and the Department of Homeland Security were codified by advisers in the form of draft executive orders.
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Deuxcents
(16,218 posts)And now he admits it. Whos court is this ball in?
Skittles
(153,160 posts)it was then, and always has been, A BIG LIE
usonian
(9,801 posts)Eight states have universal mail-in ballots:
California, Nevada, Vermont, Utah, Oregon, Washington, Colorado and Hawaii.
And there is no DeJoy in Mudville when you drop off the mail-in ballot in the strongbox in front of the clerk's office.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)Assuming these people familiar with the matter go on the record under oath.
Six weeks after Election Day would be mid-December, right after the electoral college voted. Thats right about the time Barr gave his notice he was quitting as AG.
Also read today that the January 6 committee has been negotiating with Barr around conditions for his testimony. Barr could certainly be one of those people familiar with the matter