Laurence Tribe: Trump Confessed To Seditious Conspiracy And Could Face 20 Years In Prison

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Posted on Tue, Feb 1st, 2022 by Jason Easley
Laurence Tribe: Trump Confessed To Seditious Conspiracy And Could Face 20 Years In Prison


Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe said that Trump confessed to seditious conspiracy and would face 20 years in prison if charged.

Tribe said on MSNBC’s The Last Word:

He essentially confessed publicly and openly, without any coercion, without any pressure, to having committed the crime of conspiracy to engage in sedition. Seditious conspiracy, because the United States government, punishable by 20 years in prison, because he quite specifically said that he thought he had a right to overturn the election.

And that Vice President Pence had better straighten up and overturn the election for him. He also confessed publicly to inciting and fomenting and, more importantly, giving aid and comfort to an insurrection. Which is punishable by ten years in prison, and importantly by permanent disqualification from ever again holding office under the United States. There are other less serious crimes to which he confessed, but just take a step back and recognize how extraordinary this is. He basically is daring the United States government, and the attorney general, and the Justice Department, to enforce the rule of law.

He is saying make my day, if you come after me, I am going to stir up my angry mobs, and you will suffer. He has been so threatening to the district attorney in Atlanta, that she now has formally announced that she is criminally investigating him, and needs FBI protection. Merrick Garland has said that he will not stop just with the people on the ground, he will follow the evidence where it leads.

But he does not have to follow a trail of bread crumbs here. As Jamie Raskin pointed out, Representative Raskin, the impeachment manager for the second impeachment, as he pointed out the other day, this is a smoking gun. You do not have to look any further.

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https://www.politicususa.com/2022/02/01/laurence-tribe-trump-confessed-to-seditious-conspiracy-and-would-face-20-years-in-prison.html

[dalton99a]

1. Kick

[Scrivener7]

2. Yup. The bread crumbs are boulders at this point.

And the loons are strapping on their semi-automatics and their "I heart nazis" water bottles.

[gab13by13]

3. Laurence Tribe was already bashed here

because he never prosecuted a case.

[Marthe48]

26. I read he has argued 36 cases in front of SCOTUS

Do you mean he has never been a prosecutor? Just wondering. Ty

[Fiendish Thingy]

35. Correct, Tribe has never prosecuted a criminal case.

He is a respected legal scholar whose expertise is arguments on constitutional law, but he has never been a prosecutor, unlike Garland.

[Fiendish Thingy]

32. Do you think that is an unfair criticism? Nt

[gab13by13]

42. Yes I do,

there is no doubt that he knows the law, most likely better than most criminal prosecutors.

[Fiendish Thingy]

47. But he has no expertise in prosecutorial strategy, which is always important

But is critical in prosecuting a former president and his accomplices.

[Marthe48]

48. He won 3/5 of his appellate cases

From the article below.


https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/10899/Tribe

In a normal world, following a traditional and well-defined rule of law, Mr. Tribe and his team wouldn't have any trouble proving that traitor is not just a traitor, but a criminal traitor, ably abetted by his thug henchmen.

But we live in a world where traitor is trying to break the law (as in smashing china with both hands) and the looney tunes on SCOTUS will probably abet his effort, even though history will condemn them. If there is someone left to write history or read it.

[Fiendish Thingy]

49. Convincing a judge is different than convincing a jury. Nt

[NurseJackie]

64. Thank you.

[MissMillie]

4. If it makes it to court, he will say political hyperbole doesn't count

BUT... that will be an admission that he lies to his supporters.


(Not that THEY care... in their eyes it's all justified.)

[spanone]

5. YES, the GUN is SMOKING

Thank you Professor

[L. Coyote]

40. The gun has been smoking for a long while.

CREW files criminal sedition complaint against Trump
January 11, 2021

Link to tweet

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

6. If we lock The Fascist Guy up, I hope we first mobilize National Guard troops

nationwide, to help deter batshit crazy MAGAloon insurrectionist traitors from going on a bloodthirsty lynch mob rampage against citizens who are loyal to President Biden, the United States, and our Constitution.

The respective state National Guards are authorized by the Constitution of the United States. As originally drafted, the Constitution recognized the existing state militias, and gave them vital roles to fill: "to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasion." (Article I, Section 8, Clause 15). The Constitution distinguished "militias," which were state entities, from "Troops," which were unlawful for states to maintain without Congressional approval. (Article I, Section 10, Clause 3). Under current law, the respective state National Guards and the State Defense Forces are authorized by Congress to the states and are referred to as "troops." 32 U.S.C. § 109.

Although originally state entities, the Constitutional "Militia of the Several States" were not entirely independent because they could be federalized. According to Article I, Section 8; Clause 15, the United States Congress is given the power to pass laws for "calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions." Congress is also empowered to come up with the guidelines "for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress" (clause 16). The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the state militias "when called into the actual Service of the United States." (Article II, Section 2).

The traditional state militias were redefined and recreated as the "organized militia"—the National Guard, via the Militia Act of 1903. They were now subject to an increasing amount of federal control, including having arms and accoutrements supplied by the central government, federal funding, and numerous closer ties to the Regular Army.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_(United_States)#Constitutional_basis

[DallasNE]

30. what Is the Difference Between

An "organized militia" and a "well regulated militia"? Oh, never mind.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

39. I agree, but then you have the red state governors who will refuse to do so...

... back to the, "states rights", thingy. Especially Krissy "Cowpie Barbie" Noem in South Dakota.

PS: The, "Cowpie Barbie", moniker does not originate with me. She is referenced as such by decent people on South Dakota news discussions.

[no_hypocrisy]

7. I *might* start believing in God.

[Maraya1969]

8. What if he says he can't be prosecuted because he was president? Or is that only

for sitting presidents?

I would love to see him go to jail but I fear it won't happen.

[Justice matters.]

55. Only for sitting ones.

The not-in-the-constitution, Nixon-era-dated OLC memo (legal opinion that was never challenged by Congress) states presidents cannot be indicted because it would distract them from doing their job of running the executive branch. Impeachment by the House, then conviction and removal from office, then indictment(s) once out.

[DENVERPOPS]

62. I think even the worst attorney

could easily get trump off on "not guilty because of mental disease or defect"........and the fact that Trump would never agree to that defense proves the point!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know about anyone else, but I would love it, if I never saw anything about him from this point forward, except a picture of him and his spawn in orange jump suits walking into Super Max here in Colorado.......

[Ferrets are Cool]

9. At this point, I will believe it when I see him behind bars

So far, I haven't seen that happen.

[birdographer]

29. With you on that.

We have heard this sort of sure-fire stuff over and over for years and nothing happens.

[OMGWTF]

53. Keep a fork by your computer and when Shitler's face comes up, put it in front of it

so it looks like he's in jail.

[Celerity]

67. Lololol

[Marcuse]

10. His defense is that he wasn't under oath when he said it.

[SheltieLover]

11. Expedite the process!

[SheltieLover]

36. Yuppers!

Lock them all up & hold in cells pending trials! They present a clear danger!

[johnthewoodworker]

12. This is a Republican fascist against democrats. They are laughing at us.

[cayugafalls]

13. I keep taking the "wait and see" attitude. So far, all I see is that I am waiting...

Another purportedly rich guy getting no punishment for crimes past and present.

Tell me, what's new?

Nothing.

Fuck it, I'm going to go make some coffee.

[KS Toronado]

14. Think the FBI should go visit him with some clever questions

and with his big mouth & ego he'll incriminate himself even further.

[Emile]

15. Give him another 20 for inciting a riot!

[BlueJac]

16. It has now become obvious that the DOJ is afraid to go after Trump!

That is just my opinion, I would like them to prove me wrong before hell freezes over and our country is destroyed. Meaning this year.

[The Jungle 1]

21. Keep pushing but understand this will take time.

Watergate did not happen overnight.
I say slow walk this right into the midterms.

[Justice matters.]

57. Watergate crimes were committed in relative secrecy & harmless to democracy.

The smoking gun was tough to find.

The current Watergate-on-Steroids(TM) was, and is still committed straight in the open, in our faces. The conspiracy to "overturn the Election!" is showed in plain view since before J6, The violence and threats of violence are appearing almost daily.

What would Eliot Ness do? Where are the untouchables today?

[The Jungle 1]

60. We disagree but what ever

Think about this what would Archie Bunker say about nazi scum marching in our cities.
Times have changed.

[duhneece]

17. I'm trying to find an attorney for our own Little FG

Couy Griffin, founder of Cowboys for Trump, 1/6 Defendant… has done the same
I want him charged and never able to run for public office.

[The Jungle 1]

18. I will say this about police.

I doubt they will handle the next treasonous revolt the same as they handled the last one.
I would be willing to bet police all across the nation are very interested in another confrontation with horn wearing fascists.
Bring it you foul maggots.

[bucolic_frolic]

19. An insurrection and coup fomented from the top

If you don't have the people, workers, and military with you en masse, your insurrection does not have what it takes.

[The Jungle 1]

25. That is the key.

Our loyal military told trump to pound sand. General Milley is an epic American hero.

[Martin Eden]

20. If TFG is indicted for seditious conspiracy....

....it means the vicious racist mentally sick prosecutors are doing something illegal

(according to TFG)

[iluvtennis]

22. tfg will just walk it back like he always does 🙁 n/t

[CaptainTruth]

23. TFG's own statements provide good evidence against him.

He just can't help himself, he just keeps talking, his ego is so big he wants to brag about everything he's done, even when it was illegal.

Keep talking, Traitor.

[progressoid]

24. That'll never happen.

[L. Coyote]

27. K & R

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Mr. Ected]

28. "and, more importantly, giving aid and comfort to an insurrection. Which is punishable by 10 years"

Right there. RIGHT THERE.

If the goal is to ensure that Trump never again debases the American people or our Constitution by holding public office, this would be a great initial charge to make against him.

Other charges could and will be added, of course, but to cut to the chase and remove him from running in 2024, this would be the shortest distance between two points.

Bonus: by the time the 10 year, no parole, sentence would be served, Donald would be dead as a doorknob.

[SayItLoud]

37. The only "bars" TFG is ever going to be behind

are the bars at Mar-A-Scuzo . When, IF, MG or anyone moves on him and he's convicted of anything...even his 5th Ave claim he will only ever get house arrest. It's just one reason he made Flori-DUH his residence. House arrest at a golf club that's the best we can ever expect (IMO).

Now his dirty rotten kids.....that's another story.

[hamsterjill]

38. Tribe was on CNN last night, too.

I did not see the exchange on CNN, but someone told me about it. Tribe was VERY upset that Merrick Garland has not pursued charges against Trump. According to what I was told, Garland is a former pupil of Tribe and Tribe basically said Garland is gutless for not going forward.

Did anyone actually see this segment? Or have a link to it?

[Bobstandard]

41. Tribe was speaking directly to Garland

I watched the segment on MSNBC and it was clear to me that Tribe’s intended audience was Merrick Garland.

I’m with Tribe on this one. There is no longer any reason to wait to move on Trump for sedition. As Tribe said, all the necessary evidence to indict is in plain sight.

[scarytomcat]

44. TFG needs to be taken off the street

He is as dangerous a any criminal there is. These rallies prove it. Please someone shut him up before more people are hurt. If he is arrested the judge can issue a gag order and hold him in contempt if he says anything.

[Paper Roses]

43. Get moving Mr Garland. We're sick of the delays.

How much more do we have to know and how much longer do we have to wait until there is some real action against this evil man.

I'm sick of hearing about what may be investigated and then....nothing!

[BigmanPigman]

58. Ditto!!!!!!!!!!

[MiHale]

45. I don't care if he doesn't wind up in prison on one condition...

Public flogging is instituted.

Bare backed arms tied high to a post 45 lashes and 10 more while he’s yelling “Biden Won, I’m a loser.” Maybe then he’ll shut his fucking mouth.

[fightforfreedom]

46. Holy crap, Trump is going down. Lawrence Tribe does not bullshit.

We are witnessing an amazing moment in our nations history.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

50. TFG confessed

[Kingofalldems]

51. Kick and rec all Trump traitor posts.

[Cha]

52. KR TY

[budkin]

54. Why is this not all over the news?

Is it because "Trump says crazy stuff all the time?" That excuse again?

[monkeyman1]

56. trump's their cash cow !! they don't want to bear 'r of bad new's !

[Mr.Bill]

59. No matter what Trump does,

is charged with or indicted for, the biggest hill to climb will be finding 12 jurors who will convict him. And I bet anyone who investigates him knows this.

[stopdiggin]

66. yes. that little detail

and there are others .. Mr. Tribe is not the only one to have 'opinions' here. (he's a favorite on the site for telling us what we want to hear - which is a completely human reaction - but not always the surest one)

Do I think that DJT has committed criminal offenses? Clearly - since before he even entered office. Do I think he will be convicted of crimes committed while in office? I'm cautiously optimistic, as the saying goes - but I don't think there is any sort of 'slam dunk' guarantee - as Mr. Tribe seems bent on assuring us.

[Martin68]

61. C'mon Juaricw! You catchin' this or what? Your job depends on it...

[Slammer]

63. breadcrumbs

Sometimes we get way too focused on following the breadcrumbs and ignore where the breadcrumbs have already taken us.

Once you find a prosecutable slam-dunk felony against Trump, that's the time to stop investigating and start prosecuting.

You can always choose to prosecute the other crimes later separately.

But you won't always have the opportunity to stop him from continuing to raise money, stop him from undermining the integrity of the mid-term elections, stop him from making credible endorsements of candidates (as measured on the Republican side), and stop him from building momentum for another presidential run.

Those things will only be stopped by an immediate federal prosecution.

We could follow breadcrumbs for another ten years and still not have exhausted all the breadcrumbs which could be followed.

The point in following the breadcrumbs is to find the wrongdoing. And that's been accomplished sufficient to our purposes at this point.

[NurseJackie]

65. The more the better, right? Why leave any stone unturned?

It's not just the jury that needs to be convinced. It's also political. It's also a matter of convincing the public. It's also a matter of getting it RIGHT for the history books. The world is watching.

You can always choose to prosecute the other crimes later separately.

That's overly optimistic and highly doubtful.

They know what they're doing. And I suspect that they're not very inclined to set any sort of artificial deadlines or time-table simply to satisfy the needs of those who have grown accustomed to the constant stream of information from cable-news or internet-news. Or to satisfy the unreasonable expectations of a small (but loud) subset of individuals who live under a gross misconception that political crimes can be investigated and prosecuted and taken to trial in some sort of "CSI-Washington" TV drama... where everything is neatly wrapped up in three-acts. And in the course of one hour, justice is served.

[stopdiggin]

68. +1.

I'm quite confounded by the idea that there is no possible 'down side' to hurrying this on through to a 'conclusion.' Of course there is a huge risk - and a failed prosecution would be absolutely devastating ...

A solid majority of Republicans continue to believe that the election was stolen. That is the backdrop against which a prosecution must convince a panel of jurors ....