It now appears that the Oath Keepers were waiting for the declaration of the Insurrection Act.

[kentuck]

That was the purpose of the Executive Orders.

Once Trump signed either of the Executive Orders, the Oath Keepers and the militias would have brought in their guns from the Virginia side and would have taken over the Capitol under the cover of the Insurrection Act.

Perhaps that was their plan?

Is there any more news on this subject?

[lagomorph777]

1. The Insurrection Act is meant to STOP an insurrection,

not start one.

[kentuck]

2. Right.

It would have been used as a pretense for bringing in their weapons, to stop the "insurrection". But the real reason was to take over the Capitol and to disband the Congress.

It was tied together with the idea of confiscating the voting machines. It was very close to being successful.

[Tickle]

3. I thought they acted like

a bunch of bumbling fools. If they are our opposition I think we are safe.

[Gore1FL]

16. Maybe, but they are bumbling fools with explosives.

They are not without the ability to do bumbling things with bumbling collateral damage. That's what concerns me.

[KS Toronado]

23. When FailedCoupGuy tells his bumbling fools to take to the streets

They'll be going with all their guns & ammo this time, not flagpoles.

[Saboburns]

28. Great news

Be much easier for Law Enforcement to arrest, disarm, and/or interdict these terrorists.

[KS Toronado]

31. And confiscate their weapons permanently

for being a threat to society.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

19. The bumbling fools are still trying to create an insurrection. So, not safe until 100%

safe….cause next time the seditionists party won’t be so bumbling, or foolish.

Am I right?

[wryter2000]

26. That wouldn't stop Trump from attempting it

He's always guilty of what he accuses others of.

On edit: Remember, he's said more than once that the real insurrection happened on 11/3.

[cab67]

27. correct, but....

...some of these knobs (up to and including the ginger-colored organism living on TFG's head) are probably stupid enough to think the opposite.

[Ohio Joe]

4. That is about how the current indictments read to me...

I expect the DOJ is working on flipping as many of the 11 as they can, and I also expect at least several will. My thought is that the next thing we’ll hear is a DOJ request to delay the trials of those cooperating… Or maybe it will be those cooperating changing their pleas to guilty… I’m not sure.

[kentuck]

6. Maybe that is who Trump was giving his speech to, at the rally?

Promise a pardon to keep them from talking?

[Ohio Joe]

7. I agree...

And not only them but those further up the food chain, including himself.

[kentuck]

8. To pardon himself?

I'm sure that thought has crossed his mind.

[C Moon]

15. Yes. That's exactly what he was doing.

I don’t know why they trust the lying sos at this point. He’s thrown everyone under the bus.

[uponit7771]

5. K&R,

[bucolic_frolic]

9. Trump pardons

will be as cheap and plentiful as plenary indulgences in the Middle Ages.

I bet he has a vest pocket full of pardons already issued to himself for any and all contingencies.

And any consequences for the insurrection that don't snare Bannon and Steven Miller are incomplete and worthless. They must take down the "intellectual" brain trust that we often do not see.

Yes. Not see.

[Firestorm49]

10. That's an interesting read of the situation. However, I believe that if such an event would have

occurred, at some point the Nat. Guard in combination with God knows how many other legitimate military sources would have ended it violently. The capitol would have been taken back. I’ve read about right wing factions within the military, but I also have seen how true dedicated military leaders still believe in and back our democracy. Despite what the former idiot would have ordered, I’m not so sure the military would follow a mad man’s orders, or rather to serve and protect the constitution of the USA, as they pledged to do. It would have been a bloodbath, as it may still come to be, but I don’t believe that what’s his nuts would remain in power in such an event.

[kentuck]

11. The National Guard could have been ordered to protect and defend another area...

..and the Oath Keepers and militias would have defended the Capitol, according to orders from their Commander in Chief. They would have been allied with the National Guard, not opposing each other. They would have simply followed orders.

[gab13by13]

12. Don't take this the wrong way,

but you get it because you are thinking like Trump. What rational person would do the things he has done?

Donald Trump is not stupid, he is mentally ill.

Also, militias were used by the central government to put down rebellions against the government. Militias were not originally formed to be a check on the central government.

I'm from Pa. and I studied about the Whiskey rebellion where it took militias to put down the rebellion.

[LastDemocratInSC]

30. You're correct about the purpose of militias.

[OneGrassRoot]

22. I think that's especially accurate...

considering they planned all along to blame the violence and chaos on Antifa. The call for counter protesters to stay away from the Capitol was wise.

[hadEnuf]

13. I hope we are preparing to engage these treasonous militants on a physical level.

It's becoming more clear every day that they were fully prepared and in the process of taking over the government by military force. I think it's also pretty clear that they will ignore every court order, indictment or attempt to enforce the law concerning Trump and his minions. It's fair to say that this is not over by a long shot.

There are few options when dealing with an enemy like this and we need to be ready.

[dwayneb]

20. Don't understimate this enemy

Totally agree with your post. We are at war whether we like to admit it or not. Jan 6th was simply one battle, in which the forces of Democracy lost a lot of ground.

Never underestimate your enemy know their strengths and their weaknesses better than your own.

[Crataegus]

14. Insurrection Act

I have read that many oathkeepers believed that the Insurrection Act had been signed before Jan 6 and would be revealed at the proper time. Some apparently were told that the oathkeepers would be activated as a national militia at that time.
They thought that they would become some kind of 'praetorian guard'. Stone and Flynn were probably feeding them pure BS to keep them focused.

[gab13by13]

17. Getting the Oaf Freepers to flip

would incriminate the people holed up at the Willard Hotel. Getting the people at the Willard Hotel to flip would incriminate the White House.

[fightforfreedom]

18. Did the oath keepers coordinate with anyone connected to the Whitehouse? Let's see.

Roger Stone was hanging out with oath keepers, proud boys for at least a month before Jan. 6th. I have seen the videos. Of course they were just talking about women, sports and the weather.

If witnesses come forward, people turn, if documents or phone records, text messages, e-mails can be found tying the oath keepers, proud boys to the Whitehouse. That would be a game changer.

[halfulglas]

21. We are also looking at this from the true lens that BLM and the other bogyman groups

touted by the MAGA crowd didn't show up. So many of the seditionists expected more left counter protesters and they would have been blamed and the excuse to call in Oath Keepers and other militias plus the National Guard on their side to "restore order."

We don't know what would have happened had more of our people been mixing it up with the insurrectionists, but will be interesting if once we get more of the texts and emails to find out how that fed into their plan. Because we know if it had succeeded not only would they be crowing that they had "protected" the Capitol, but the evil leftists were the reason they had to do it.

[BlueIdaho]

24. The obvious answer is to shoot to kill

And keep shooting until they run out of ammunition. Sorry but these seditionists can’t be reasoned with. If they start something, we better be ready to finish it.

[Beartracks]

25. Isn't this all like trying to overturn the Superbowl...

... by storming the control booth so the final score can't "officially" be projected into the scoreboard even after the entire country watched the game and saw one side clearly and obviously win?

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[Kingofalldems]

29. Kick and rec for Trump's secret pals.