USA Today Florida poll.

[former9thward]

Rubio 49 Demings 41, DeSantis 51 Fried 40

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/02/01/poll-biden-struggling-florida-2024/9282357002/

This state seems out of reach in this cycle.

[obamanut2012]

1. Where are the other Dem matchups, like Crist?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

6. It's buried down near the bottom of the hit piece...49-43.

Is there a campaign going on we not know about?

USA Today is propaganda for the rich,

[former9thward]

14. I assume you have better polling for the non rich?

[onenote]

16. DeSantis v Crist is mentioned in the same sentence as DeSantis v. Fried.

Its the OP that apparently buried the DeSantis-Crist result, not the article.

[obamanut2012]

21. Thank you -- interesting

[obamanut2012]

20. Ridiculous

None of them have even started campaigning yet. Fucking unrealistic hit piece.

Fried is my favorite, but unfortunately I think Crist is the best shot, unless Gwen wants to run again.

Rubio? Who knows at this point, but Val has a shot imo.

[brooklynite]

27. Why is every unflattering poll a "hit piece"?

If the same poll reported Biden, Demmings or Crist doing well nobody would challenge its accuracy or motives.

[mcar]

35. Thank you

[Alexander Of Assyria]

2. Majority disapproval of the strongest job and economic growth in 40 years??

Maybe someone should tell them…or maybe the poll just sucks.

[JohnSJ]

9. good observation, and why I do not trust approval polls, because I do not think it is a good

measure of winning election.

[obamanut2012]

5. lol

[Alexander Of Assyria]

7. Election is 2024 so I agree. "We" don't stand a chance!

😬😝

[JohnSJ]

8. The problem with those "approval" polls, is they do not match Biden up with potential republican

candidates in 2024 like trump or desantis

As for Florida, they have been devolving back to the racist history for some time now

[Alexander Of Assyria]

12. Presidential polls...Biden floors both Trump and Florida Man...article failed to mention somehow?

So just a fluff hit piece…gotta get some ammo to make both sides equal and keep the sweet campaign ad money spigots turned up forever and ever.

[JohnSJ]

13. I assume so Alex

[onenote]

17. the article says that Trump and DeSantis both defeat Biden in Florida

The problem with nationwide polls is that while they might show Biden with a big lead in the popular vote, they don't translate it to state-by-state electoral college votes -- which is all that really matters.


And based on RealClearPOlitics survey of polls, there are a lot of polls showing Trump ahead of Biden nationwide.

[sarcasmo]

11. Florida is a Dictator State.

[jcgoldie]

15. Cannot wait to see Demings debate Rubio regardless

She will mop the floor with him.

[Emile]

18. Maybe we should follow Carville's advice and stop wasting money in Florida.

[ananda]

19. Texas is just as bad.

I keep going, what's WRONG with people???!!!!

[Emile]

31. Carville would say give up, we need that money elsewhere!

[madville]

22. Maybe Demings can make some gains

It’s gonna be tough though if Rubio stays around the 50% threshold though.

It will be a shame if she gives up her House seat and then doesn’t win the Senate seat (you can’t be on the ballot for two different races in Florida).

Unfortunately Crist and Fried just aren’t very “exciting” candidates, everyone is already familiar with Crist and Fried is not very well known as the Ag commissioner.

[mcar]

23. Gee, we Florida Democrats might as well give up then

before the campaign even starts because one poll say so.

Yesterday on this board I was called stupid because I'm a Florida voter - today I'm told to not even bother.

I'm curious as to why people are spreading so much doom and gloom here.

[obamanut2012]

24. I'd like to know, too

Also a FL voter who gets heckled.

[In It to Win It]

25. To me, we always have a chance. Am I supposed to sit back and accept our shitty GOP government?

I'm in South Florida. Telling me "not to bother" is just giving a free vote to little Marco to our current asshole of a governor, which I refuse to do.

Are we supposed to sit back and make it easy for them?

[mcar]

26. That's the message I get from these types of OPs

Don't bother; we're doomed.

Fck that.

[brooklynite]

29. How do you reach to "give up"?

Do you imagine that Democratic campaigns don't do the same polls to understand the realities they face?

[mcar]

30. Huh

OP is saying Florida is out of reach this cycle. That's how I reach to give up.

I am fully aware that campaigns do polling. What does that have to do with a poll in February, when the Democratic candidates aren't yet set?

[brooklynite]

32. The OP is reporting facts from a reputable polling group...

...and is showing results for all the likely candidate matchups. The Democratic candidates are well aware of where they're starting out, and will need to carry out their campaigns accordingly. Meanwhile, ordinary voters aren't paying attention at all to the polls, and won't focus on the election until September.

[mcar]

33. Yes

Meanwhile, ordinary voters aren't paying attention at all to the polls, and won't focus on the election until September.

Except the OP is telling us that Florida is a waste of time this cycle. That is what I am objecting to.

I'm a Florida Democrat who works very hard to GOTV and get Democrats elected. It is very discouraging to come on this Democratic site that I've been a member of for 20 years and be told to give up. Yesterday I was told I was stupid because I'm a Florida voter.

I'm going to continue to voice my disagreement with this doom and gloom sentiment that, IMO, works to depress the Democratic vote.

[former9thward]

34. Actually many polls.

I could link to them but they would be denounced. This is a political discussion board. No one is telling you not to bother. But polls, especially those that show trends, are useful to people -- including the DNC --- to know where to put maximum effort and resources.

[mcar]

36. You said the state seems out of reach

That's saying don't bother. Of course polls are useful but we have learned over the last several cycles that polls are, at best, inexact. At worst, they help to make things happen, IOW, Florida is out of reach, says February poll. MSM decides that Democrats shouldn't bother in Florida, the Democratic vote is depressed, money dries up, etc, etc.

I say it's early and, to me, these numbers aren't that bad for February.

[budkin]

28. That's depressing. I think Florida can be considered a red state now.

We're highly unlikely to win it again for decades.

[rockfordfile]

37. BS. DeSantis is a un-American pos.