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dsp3000

(482 posts)
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 10:59 AM Feb 2022

Calling Omicron "mild" is misleading. My uncle just passed away from it.

The news keeps calling Omicron mild. Maybe breakthrough cases are mild if you're vaccinated?

My uncle was not vaccinated. he spent a month in the hospital before passing away this morning. He leaves behind a wife and 12 year old son. Sadly, his FB page reads like every other herman cain award too. Misinformation / fake news in Vietnamese is disgusting and fatal.

I am processing alot of emotions right now. I always had good memories with him while growing up. Basically taught me how to use MS DOS and Windows 3.1 when i was 6 years old.

I'm more sad and angry for the wife and son. I dunno what I can do to help.

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Calling Omicron "mild" is misleading. My uncle just passed away from it. (Original Post) dsp3000 Feb 2022 OP
((dsp)) blm Feb 2022 #1
Close family friend being taken off vent tonight or tomorrow Johnny2X2X Feb 2022 #2
So sorry to hear this! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #17
What a sad loss of an amazing person. MLAA Feb 2022 #18
This is so sad. LoisB Feb 2022 #25
I'm so sorry, Johnny. calimary Feb 2022 #43
I wonder if his being Navajo played a role? Remember leftyladyfrommo Feb 2022 #47
So very sorry for your loss. 12 year old boy with no Dad, so sad. BeckyDem Feb 2022 #3
It is more often mild for those who are vaccinated, it is still a killer for the unvaxxed. Bev54 Feb 2022 #32
Exactly and too many don't wear masks where I live and it is wrong. BeckyDem Feb 2022 #45
I just had Omicron, and for me it was quite mild. Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #4
Just be there for them OLDMDDEM Feb 2022 #5
I Haven't Seen It Called Mild ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #6
I've seen it referred to as "milder" on several news programs. So "mild" was probably inferred. JanMichael Feb 2022 #9
MildER! ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #11
It was called mild Sympthsical Feb 2022 #12
Got Ya! ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #13
I've had coworkers parrot what they see on the media... "oh it's supposed to be mild now!" dsp3000 Feb 2022 #16
I've heard it called mild if your caused and boosted DLCWIdem Feb 2022 #61
True Rebl2 Feb 2022 #21
True. Chris Hayes had a graph on last night: 2,500 +/- people dying every day now from Omicron. BComplex Feb 2022 #31
I'm so sorry. piddyprints Feb 2022 #7
OMG, that cardiologist should lose his license femmedem Feb 2022 #49
The percentage of deaths is much lower than the Delta variant. patphil Feb 2022 #8
Sunday's Baltimore Sun front page "January deaths break record." halfulglas Feb 2022 #27
Due to the astronomical number of cases. The poster said percentage. boston bean Feb 2022 #51
I wasn't disputing the previous post. halfulglas Feb 2022 #55
The percentage of deaths is lower because more people are vaccinated now. Samrob Feb 2022 #58
My point was that it is deadly, but not to the same extent as the Delta variant. patphil Feb 2022 #62
Sorry for your loss. Omicron does seem to be milder on those.. brush Feb 2022 #10
None that i'm aware of. He was not overweight, didnt smoke. dsp3000 Feb 2022 #14
I'm very sorry for your loss. MLAA Feb 2022 #15
So sorry for your loss SheltieLover Feb 2022 #19
I am sorry you lost your uncle pandr32 Feb 2022 #20
Sorry for your loss tiredtoo Feb 2022 #22
So very sorry Traildogbob Feb 2022 #23
I am sorry for your loss. LoisB Feb 2022 #24
More infectious, fewer severe illnesses and deaths. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #26
Vaccine is free. I encourage everyone to take it IronLionZion Feb 2022 #28
I'm very sorry for your loss but if your uncle... NNadir Feb 2022 #29
I have lost two cousins, two neighbors, seven old friends and 3 old coworkers. Emile Feb 2022 #30
I'm so sorry... CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #33
To honor your uncle's memory FakeNoose Feb 2022 #34
Lost a friend from years ago to a similar situation in mid January Sherman A1 Feb 2022 #35
Maybe now she can meet a sane person to remarry. BradBo Feb 2022 #36
My nephew... BradBo Feb 2022 #37
I'm sorry cate94 Feb 2022 #38
If you're vaccinated and healthy it generally is Calculating Feb 2022 #39
It's not mild ismnotwasm Feb 2022 #40
I'm so sorry for your loss.. mountain grammy Feb 2022 #41
I'm sorry for the loss. hamsterjill Feb 2022 #42
All my sympathy, dsp3000. calimary Feb 2022 #44
Last Jan, deaths peaked at 3567 and new cases at 251,607; now peaking at 2397 and 811,626 Klaralven Feb 2022 #46
I lost a beloved uncle in my youth. Pinback Feb 2022 #48
I'm triple vaxxed Tink41 Feb 2022 #50
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Feb 2022 #52
Sorry for your loss Catherine Vincent Feb 2022 #53
Sorry for your loss. I agree, the media really botched the messaging on this. ecstatic Feb 2022 #54
I used to feel sorry for my own willingly UN-vaccinated family members... NurseJackie Feb 2022 #56
I'm very sorry for your loss. yardwork Feb 2022 #57
It's "milder" than other variants but still nasty especially for the unvaxxed LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #59
Sorry about your unc uponit7771 Feb 2022 #60

Johnny2X2X

(19,006 posts)
2. Close family friend being taken off vent tonight or tomorrow
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:11 AM
Feb 2022

So sad. I can't believe it, Ralph was such an amazing person, would do anything for anyone. He was in construction and would drive across the state to help any friend with any project for free. The most generous person I've ever met. Full blooded Navajo, 63 years old, took a spill down a flight of stairs a couple weeks ago and broke his neck, caught Covid in the hospital, fully vaxxed, now he's going to be gone. I hate this so much, an amazing person gone. I'm sure his injury played a factor, but Omicron is not some mild version, it only seems like that because most people are now vaxxed.

MLAA

(17,266 posts)
18. What a sad loss of an amazing person.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:00 PM
Feb 2022

He did everything right and bad luck and the ignorance of others hit him. I am so sorry for your loss. ❤️❤️❤️

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
47. I wonder if his being Navajo played a role? Remember
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 03:23 PM
Feb 2022

when this first wave hit the reservation so hard? So many people got really sick. They shut the reservation completely off. They may be more susceptible to this virus.

I am so sorry about your friend. We have lost so many wonderful people.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
3. So very sorry for your loss. 12 year old boy with no Dad, so sad.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:11 AM
Feb 2022

I can't say enough how frustrated I am when I see omicron associated with mild. I believe we should keep our guard up, the pandemic is not over and it is deadly.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
4. I just had Omicron, and for me it was quite mild.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:12 AM
Feb 2022

On the other hand, I’m vaxxed and boosted. It can certainly be deadly to those who are not, as in the case of your uncle.

Please except my condolences.

ProfessorGAC

(64,960 posts)
6. I Haven't Seen It Called Mild
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:14 AM
Feb 2022

I've seen it called less virulent than prior variants.
But, I've not seen what you say you have.

JanMichael

(24,881 posts)
9. I've seen it referred to as "milder" on several news programs. So "mild" was probably inferred.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:32 AM
Feb 2022

There has also been an attempt on DU and media to downplay Omicron at least at the beginning, then crickets after the surge became evident. It was all - South Africa sez it is mild and over fast.

Then of course case numbers skyrocketed in the US and hospitalizations (at least in NC) have exceeded Alpha and Delta wave highs. And that is with the population over 50% vaccinated and gawd knows how many "naturally" immunized people exist added to the vaccinated.

Omicron was different, as it focused less on lungs, but still an awful addition to the COVID-line. I wonder how bad Omicron would have been absent of vaccines?

ProfessorGAC

(64,960 posts)
11. MildER!
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:39 AM
Feb 2022

Which the data appears to support.
In my mind, calling a disease milder is not the same as calling it mild.
Milder requires a comparison. Compared to prior variants, that descriptor appears apt.

Sympthsical

(9,064 posts)
12. It was called mild
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:46 AM
Feb 2022

And the tenor of many of the earlier stories were definitely in the, "It's not that bad," zone. I know, because I was incredibly annoyed with them when I caught it in December and had not so pleasant symptoms.

I was sitting there thinking, "When I emerge from this burrow lined with heating pads and advil packets, I am coming for you all."

I even made an OP about it at the time, because articles I was reading really were downplaying what catching it could be like, even if you are vaxxed and boosted as I was.

Edit/Note: I'm not talking about the scientists. I'm talking about media portrayal.

ProfessorGAC

(64,960 posts)
13. Got Ya!
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:54 AM
Feb 2022

I'll trust you on that.
I don't recall hearing it expressed as no big deal, but i don't watch & read everything.

dsp3000

(482 posts)
16. I've had coworkers parrot what they see on the media... "oh it's supposed to be mild now!"
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:58 AM
Feb 2022

"at least it's mild now!" they say. i'm not taking any risks w/ my 2 year old kids.

Rebl2

(13,481 posts)
21. True
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:09 PM
Feb 2022

The media still said if you weren’t vaccinated it could be deadly. At least that’s what I saw from doctors on news shows.

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
31. True. Chris Hayes had a graph on last night: 2,500 +/- people dying every day now from Omicron.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:56 PM
Feb 2022

That's a LOT of people!! 17,500 per week! Averages out to 910,000 per year.

That right there is part of why there's a labor shortage. The people who work with the public are getting infected and dying: teachers, first responders, grocery stores, fast food, restaurants, events....they're getting exposed the most.

piddyprints

(14,642 posts)
7. I'm so sorry.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:24 AM
Feb 2022

I just found out that a friend's son's father-in-law died from it this week. He was not vaccinated because he had heart issues and the anti-vax cardiologist in our town told him not to.

It's all so sad. I'm sorry for his family. Hopefully they will get vaccinated if they haven't done so already.


femmedem

(8,199 posts)
49. OMG, that cardiologist should lose his license
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 08:12 PM
Feb 2022

and be sued into bankruptcy for telling someone with heart problems not to get vaccinated.

Heartbreaking.

patphil

(6,158 posts)
8. The percentage of deaths is much lower than the Delta variant.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:31 AM
Feb 2022

But there are a lot more cases per day, and the 7 day rolling average of deaths in the US is 2310. That works out to nearly 70,000 deaths per month, or about 840,000 per year.
I'm not saying we will actually see that many deaths in a year, but I'm showing the number to put things in perspective.
Mild is just a relative term. Omicron is still a major killer.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
27. Sunday's Baltimore Sun front page "January deaths break record."
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:23 PM
Feb 2022

Even though the cases are falling, our deadliest month of the pandemic. And Maryland is considered to be one of the states doing most things right.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
55. I wasn't disputing the previous post.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:04 PM
Feb 2022

Just reinforcing the fact that Omicron is still serious and deadly, especially to the unvaccinated.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
58. The percentage of deaths is lower because more people are vaccinated now.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:26 AM
Feb 2022

That does not necessarily mean Omicron is not deadly. For anyone with a compromised immune system almost any disease can be deadly.

patphil

(6,158 posts)
62. My point was that it is deadly, but not to the same extent as the Delta variant.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:39 AM
Feb 2022

Having a large number of people vaccinated has kept that percentage down, since vaccinated people usually have a less severe case of the virus. But still, if we had the same number of people with the Delta variant, we'd probably be seeing 10,000 deaths a day.

brush

(53,759 posts)
10. Sorry for your loss. Omicron does seem to be milder on those..
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:32 AM
Feb 2022

who are vaxxed. Did your uncle have pre-existing health conditions?

MLAA

(17,266 posts)
15. I'm very sorry for your loss.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 11:58 AM
Feb 2022

The pain must be intense since it was likely avoidable had he only been vaccinated. Hold on to your good memories of your uncle teaching you something valuable when you were a kid and maybe you can create an opportunity to teach his son something that he will remember.

💖💖💖

pandr32

(11,572 posts)
20. I am sorry you lost your uncle
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:06 PM
Feb 2022

I am especially sorry for your nephew. I certainly hope you can convince the mother to get her son and herself vaccinated. Perhaps you can remain close with them because you are family.
My best wishes for healing and progress.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
22. Sorry for your loss
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:10 PM
Feb 2022

As far as "What I can do to help" goes. Keep in mind everyone reacts to the loss of a loved one differently. Some seek solitude and others seek reassurance that the world will survive etc. Just be there and provide whatever they appear to need.

Traildogbob

(8,705 posts)
23. So very sorry
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:13 PM
Feb 2022

The lose is horrific, and people do not realize when these people pass, after a MONTH in ICU, the expenses, bankrupt level, they leave their Spouse and children. Plus lose of income from the parents job. The Highway Patrolman Fox Hero the told Gov kiss his ass about vaccine, left a wife and 4 children, with a Months hospital bill and his loss of salary.
All because a minority of idiots, blindly believing the swill pit out just to advance their chance of power. Pure evil, we surviving family left to live with the emotional and economic pain.
For those children, thank god fir the Socialistic survivors benefits of SS until 18.
Wish you strength and courage to deal with the loss and hate for those that caused it.💔

IronLionZion

(45,404 posts)
28. Vaccine is free. I encourage everyone to take it
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:23 PM
Feb 2022

That is our Presidential administration's strategy to make sure everyone who wants it can have it.

Sorry for your loss but it could have been prevented.

NNadir

(33,510 posts)
29. I'm very sorry for your loss but if your uncle...
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:26 PM
Feb 2022

...has been vaccinated he probably would have survived. The antibody response is low, but T-cells keep the disease mild. I just recovered from omicron, and in my case it was mild, rather like a bad cold. I'm vaxxed and boosted.

As is the case with so many, his death was unnecessary.

Emile

(22,619 posts)
30. I have lost two cousins, two neighbors, seven old friends and 3 old coworkers.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 12:31 PM
Feb 2022

Everyone of those deaths were preventable if only they had got vaccinated!

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
34. To honor your uncle's memory
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 01:14 PM
Feb 2022


I'm sorry you lost your uncle, but your aunt and cousin need to be vaccinated at the first possible opportunity.

It will hopefully save their lives, just as it would have saved him. May you find solace in the memory of your uncle from happier times.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
35. Lost a friend from years ago to a similar situation in mid January
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 01:18 PM
Feb 2022

Unvaccinated, unmasked and not a believer in the virus. Guess it doesn't matter what he believed now.

BradBo

(529 posts)
37. My nephew...
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 01:22 PM
Feb 2022

… is 35, construction foreman, anti- vaxxer. Got the Delta, now his lungs are no better than and 80 yo mans. Permanent o2 and basically a homebody for the rest of his life.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
39. If you're vaccinated and healthy it generally is
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 01:26 PM
Feb 2022

I think I had it like a week ago and it was like a weird minor cold with a mild sore throat that persisted for 4 days along with some light chills and fatigue.

ismnotwasm

(41,973 posts)
40. It's not mild
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 01:29 PM
Feb 2022

My hospital has more cases now than it had the entire pandemic. The difference is more are on the floor, and less in ICU. My floor alone has 4 cases.

My SIL just got a trach and a feeding tube inserted through her stomach in preparation for discharge to an LTAC. Still vented though.

mountain grammy

(26,608 posts)
41. I'm so sorry for your loss..
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 01:35 PM
Feb 2022

In the last 3 months we've lost 5 locals in our small county.. only 65% vaccinated. Free shots, available to all. We got three modernas, total wait time around 10 minutes each time. Easy peasy.

5 dead, all unvaxxed.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
42. I'm sorry for the loss.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 01:46 PM
Feb 2022

It’s always sad to lose someone who has been a big part of our life. We may not always agree with them, but it’s still a loss.

Peace and comfort to you.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
44. All my sympathy, dsp3000.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 02:13 PM
Feb 2022

So much loss. Such a sad time. Too many gone too soon.

I’m so sorry, my friend.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
46. Last Jan, deaths peaked at 3567 and new cases at 251,607; now peaking at 2397 and 811,626
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 03:09 PM
Feb 2022

So the ratio of deaths to cases is a lot lower this January.

Vaccination is probably the factor most responsible for the reduced mortality.

Unvaccinated people have all had their chance to get vaccinated.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ and turn on 7-day moving average

Pinback

(12,153 posts)
48. I lost a beloved uncle in my youth.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 03:45 PM
Feb 2022

When you have a great uncle, it’s a very special relationship. He’s sort of like a dad, sort of like a brother, sort of like a pal. But different from all those at the same time.

I know how hard it must be to lose yours. My condolences to you and your family. Special hugs to your aunt and cousin.

Tink41

(537 posts)
50. I'm triple vaxxed
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 08:47 PM
Feb 2022

I had it middle of January. Mild flu maybe. Not a mild illness by any means. Mild to me is sniffles, congested, able to work with no discomfort. THAT is mild. THIS I had bone aches, top of feet burning, 2 days of naps, and exhaustion by 11 AM. That was before I had any recognizable symptoms. Those started with a sore throat, congestion, malaise, chills. By day 3 of those symptoms I was down for the count. 7 days in I felt like I could be back to normal. I would not call it mild. Now Dr's, Nurses and those experienced with severe sickness, might call it mild as they have a different bar to compare it to.

Catherine Vincent

(34,486 posts)
53. Sorry for your loss
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 08:58 PM
Feb 2022

I hear ya. I was sick with it 2-1/2 weeks and it was not mild. But it was probably due to being immune compromised.

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
54. Sorry for your loss. I agree, the media really botched the messaging on this.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 09:22 PM
Feb 2022

People have stopped taking precautions and they're saying it's like "the common cold" etc.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
56. I used to feel sorry for my own willingly UN-vaccinated family members...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:54 AM
Feb 2022

... and for their loved ones. I don't any more. Not even for my own family, not even for the spouse and children (adult children) and grandchildren.

Try to find the silver lining... maybe their death can serve as a warning and object-lesson to others who would be inclined to believe the same thing. Maybe info can be added to his FB page letting others know what the outcome was, and what that type of paranoia and recklessness results in.

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