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Is Mein Kampf still a permitted text in schools in right wing areas? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Feb 2022 OP
If at all, then only for symbolic reasons. Aristus Feb 2022 #1
Is it poorly written?... lame54 Feb 2022 #10
I've read the whole thing, but it was tough going. Aristus Feb 2022 #12
Maybe it's considered an alternative - OhZone Feb 2022 #2
It was required reading for me for a course I took in college. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #3
A new law in Indiana says teachers have to be Neutral Toward Nazism. Captain Zero Feb 2022 #4
Not a law. Senate killed it. TheProle Feb 2022 #16
Permitted? Well, I can count on one finger the number of people MineralMan Feb 2022 #5
Is Mein Kampf a book that you want K-12 children to read? Klaralven Feb 2022 #6
Did I REALLY need the sarchasm smilie? Stinky The Clown Feb 2022 #11
Over a decade ago, when I sold books in Northern Virginia. rogue emissary Feb 2022 #7
Not permitted. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #8
It's the book club pick lame54 Feb 2022 #9
When I was stationed in Berlin... jmowreader Feb 2022 #13
The Google preview is probably quite enough Klaralven Feb 2022 #14
Turner Diaries is the second most popular book in right wing areas. sarcasmo Feb 2022 #15

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
1. If at all, then only for symbolic reasons.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 01:44 PM
Feb 2022

Republicans can only read at the most basic "Dick And Jane" level. There's no way in the world they'd be able to get through the dense, tangled, unreadable morass of "Mein Kampf."

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
12. I've read the whole thing, but it was tough going.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 04:08 PM
Feb 2022

Hitler scholars state, and I agree with them, that the prose style was very similar to Hitler's conversational style, which was rarely more than a rambling monologue that drifted from one topic to another, and was only cohesive by virtue of its ultimate aim: destruction of Europe's Jewish population, and conquest of the spacious Russian lands to the east of Germany for what Hitler called Lebensraum, "living space" (for 'superior' Germans, after eliminating the 'subhuman' Slavic people).

Albert Speer, Hitler's close confidant, wrote that it was impossible to have a conversation with Hitler because it always became one of his rambling monologues as described above. These could go on for hours at a time, and Hitler brooked no debate, no opposing views, or even small talk of any kind. Speer found these sessions exhausting (so is reading "Mein Kampf"), and an utter waste of time. Even Hitler's highest-ranking subordinates would rarely contradict him, and if they did, the encounters would turn into hysterical screeching matches.

One of the reasons for the book's uneven, rambling style is because Hitler didn't really write it; setting down an outline and then typing up the content, etc. He dictated the whole thing to his secretary Rudolf Hess while in prison. Which is why the text so closely resembles Hitler's monologuing style.

Captain Zero

(6,801 posts)
4. A new law in Indiana says teachers have to be Neutral Toward Nazism.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 02:22 PM
Feb 2022

So probably ok here.

on edit:
Oh, the legislator who wrote the law paid for a membership to Oath Keepers in 2010.

TheProle

(2,165 posts)
16. Not a law. Senate killed it.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 07:36 PM
Feb 2022

The Indiana bill that sparked national outrage will not move forward, Senate leadership confirmed on Friday.

"Members of the Senate continued to work on Senate Bill 167, but have determined there is no path forward for it and it will not be considered," Senate President Pro Tempore Rodric Bray, R-Martinsville, said in a statement.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/education/2022/01/14/indiana-education-bill-167-nazi-senate-house-state-legislation-2022/6530374001/

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
5. Permitted? Well, I can count on one finger the number of people
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 02:34 PM
Feb 2022

I knew as a high school student who read that book. Me. Same thing with Das Kapital (in translation). I read both in my senior year in high school. I read all sorts of arcane political things, but I was the only person I knew who did.

I suspect if there was a poll of DUers, only a very, very few have actually read Mein Kampf or Das Kapital.

So, it's not really a matter of allowing students to read books like that. It's almost impossible to get students to read anything of the sort, really.

However, I can tell you that there were no copies of either of those two books in our school library at all. I had to get them from the public library in my town. That was back in the days when library books had cards in them that showed a history of their circulation. Those two books had very few dates in them when the books had to be returned.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
6. Is Mein Kampf a book that you want K-12 children to read?
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 02:54 PM
Feb 2022

School libraries should be stocked with books that the public wants children to read.

Public libraries should be stocked with books that the public wants to read.

Stinky The Clown

(67,790 posts)
11. Did I REALLY need the sarchasm smilie?
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 03:59 PM
Feb 2022

And no, sarcasm was not misspelled. Sarchasm is a different word, used when the utterer of sarcasm is heard as having been said with seriousness.

And since we're being serious, NO book should be banned.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
7. Over a decade ago, when I sold books in Northern Virginia.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 03:01 PM
Feb 2022

I had kids come in and buy it for book reports. So I'd say yes, but clearly things could have changed.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
13. When I was stationed in Berlin...
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 04:36 PM
Feb 2022

...there was a report on one of the local TV news stations where a reporter stood outside the fence of the compound where the Stars and Stripes Bookstore was, telling his viewers that Mein Kampf (which is illegal to own in Germany) is sold in there. So, naturally all us assholes went to Truman Plaza the very next day and bought a copy.

I think I got through the first chapter before I had to put it down, and I don't know of anyone who was able to read the whole thing. It's REALLY poorly written. Unless you're a committed Nazi or you've been assigned to read it for a class you're taking, you'll never be able to get through it all.

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