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The city of Denver will lift many of its indoor mask and COVID-19 vaccine mandates later this week. Beginning Friday, people will no longer be required, under a public health order, to wear a mask or show proof of vaccination for entry into a business" in the city, Denver Mayor Michael Hancock (D) wrote in a tweet.
Organizations that serve vulnerable populations, other businesses and venues may decide to continue to require masks or proof of vaccination. They are well within their rights to do so, and we should support them. Please do not give them a hard time, Hancock tweeted. Don't get too comfortable. This virus is something were still going to have to manage and learn to live with.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/592184-denver-dropping-mask-vaccine-mandates-this-week
The mayor said the current public health order would expire Friday and would not be renewed at this time. However, he and Denver Department of Public Health and Environment Executive Director Bob McDonald said masks will continue to be required at schools and child care facilities.
McDonald said modeling from the state indicates that lifting the face covering requirement this week would have little change on the trajectory of the number of cases and hospitalizations in Denver and in the metro area, which have fallen sharply in recent weeks.
Omicron has run out of fuel within our community, McDonald said, adding that between the levels of vaccination and boosters in Denver, and the levels of infection from the omicron variant, indicated that this week would be a safe time to lift the requirements.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/coronavirus/denver-to-drop-mask-or-vax-requirement-friday-for-businesses-still-required-in-schools
CrispyQ
(36,421 posts)I'll be masking up for a long time.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)Hopefully more and more cities will follow Denver's lead shortly.
Ace Rothstein
(3,144 posts)California is expected to expire in 2 weeks. I'd really like to see them drop the testing requirements for the vaccinated returning home on international flights.
AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)and will cause more infection. It also puts people who are immunocompromised at risk.
None of this is good.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)wearing a mask to protect the vulnerable. Maybe soon these whiners will be immune compromised themselves and they will see how it feels.
I would also like to see mask requirements dropped for air travel.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)be voluntary NOT madatory.
Raine
(30,540 posts)BootinUp
(47,078 posts)I know.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Hotler
(11,394 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Adams and Arapahoe have for profit jails. They have always been about the money. Arapahoe borders Douglas County which went complete MAGA, anti vax, freedom Jesus, no masks ever a while ago. They even removed themselves from the Tri County health department. The school board down there in the news today for some kerfuffle which I'd bet stems from masks or Vax or both. Sigh.
Hotler
(11,394 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)I wouldn't go anywhere where there is a large group of unmasked people unless I had to. I wonder if the airport is included in this. I feel bad for service industry and retail workers in Denver, Arapahoe and Adams counties.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)Just wait until they realize Covid isn't done with them.
Ace Rothstein
(3,144 posts)This is likely only the beginning of the rolling back and expiration of mandates. I don't expect much to be left by Easter.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)you feel kinda naked without it. I stopped wearing one last spring, post-vaccination but before Delta was everywhere, and it felt weird. Then I got used to NOT wearing one, and by mid-August I was wearing one again. But my husband has gotten over Omicron as of this week, I was exposed to it but testing negative, we're both triple-vaxxed so we're gonna be done with masking unless a place wants us to.
Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)and I'm trying to wrap my brain around it. Transmission is still high in NYC. I think I'll certainly keep wearing my mask in public.
The good news is we have a) masks that work to protect you. If you are concerned and want to keep masking, an N95, KN95, KN94, FFFP2 all work to protect the person wearing the mask, even if others aren't masked around you. That is a positive thing.
b) Therepuetics are increasing.
c) Hospitalizations and deaths are down.
Masking for me is no big deal. I work from home, so I don't have to mask all day. My daughter and her teachers do, though. While I think most of them will continue to mask at school far beyond when the mandate is lifted, I also think that it's time to start announcing the lifting of mandates. Especially tied to safer infection/hospitalization/death rates.
People are really fatigued. This has been hard for everybody.
mnhtnbb
(31,373 posts)We still have almost 30%positivity rate, although number of cases is down a lot. Masks still mandated in my county and two neighboring counties.
madville
(7,404 posts)Everyone is tired of it, anyone can get vaxxed for free, wear a mask if you want to, if youre high risk continue to distance and take more precautions. Most people just seem to be over it and kids need to get back to normal routines for their mental health.
beaglelover
(3,460 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,413 posts)to do something that may help someone else stay safe anyway.
You know, it's too hard for them to wear a mask.
A fabric.
Too hard for them to put a piece of fabric over their face.
Can't say I blame them.
It's a teensy bit uncomfortable.
madville
(7,404 posts)Is less and less effective as the virus variants become more contagious. Thats not saying that N95 and double masking are not effective in controlled environments like healthcare, they are very effective.
But making people wear just a simple cloth mask or the loose fitting disposable surgical masks just to show they are wearing something is on the way out. It is what it is but I think the politicians are tired of it too, ready to just give up.
Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)if people really want to protect themselves and others, they shouldn't be wearing fabric masks anymore.
And wearing an N95 mask all day is hard.
But let's mock people.
LuckyCharms
(17,413 posts)I wear an N95 covered with a surgical mask for hours when I am in a public setting.
I also wear one when exerting myself if I am anywhere near anyone else.
Why exactly is it "hard"? How do surgeons manage? How do nurses manage?
But I agree with your first sentence, I've never worn solely a fabric mask to begin with.
The point I'm trying to make is this. People have been through a lot throughout history. Soldiers have sacrificed their lives and limbs. The people I'm mocking are the "patriots" who believe that wearing a mask is all about them. They are the people who are actually mocking everyone else who has sacrificed far more, FAR MORE than having to wear a mask. And if wearing a mask can make someone else feel just a bit safer in this hellish landscape, I'm certainly willing to do that even if for THEIR benefit.
My real beef is what I just stated, as well as I believe that not only should masks be mandated while this virus is still staging as a pandemic, but the TYPE of mask should be mandated, and the PROPER wearing of it should be mandated. Maybe then, we wouldn't be looking forward to the next variant, followed by the next variant, followed by the next. It's not real hard to find N95's these days, and KN95's are practically falling out of the sky. As someone with multiple conditions, I bristle when a person who does not want to wear a mask tells me that people like me need to take more precautions when they are whooping it up because the government tells them they don't have to wear a mask anymore.
BootinUp
(47,078 posts)but a political one. I am against changing guidance for political reasons.
LuckyCharms
(17,413 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,479 posts)I've said in this thread that I wear a mask and I will continue to wear a mask even if there aren't mandates.
But, it is difficult for younger kids to wear an N95 mask all day. Breathing is harder for people in them, especially if they're running around or getting out of breath, as kids often do.
My daughter (11) wears a KN95 to school. She's fine in it. But it sucks for her when she's doing basketball in it. Hard to breathe. Exertion makes it harder for kids to breathe.
I live in the bluest area of Brooklyn. People here will mask and get boosted and boost their kids and get their under 5s vaccinated ASAP.
But the reality is that people in other areas aren't doing the same. I can take the subway to many NYC neighborhoods where it's night and day. And forget about suburbia. Most people from my hometown in suburban NJ don't wear masks when they go into stores at all.
The mandates will go. People won't wear them. It's scary. It's going to require more of people who want to protect themselves. Like you said, N95 masks, as well sas KN94, KN95 and FFFP2 masks, which all work well to protect individuals, are widely available for those of us who do want to continue to mask.
I have asthma and thrombophilia. I don't want Covid. I will continue to protect myself with everything that comes my way and I hope those things will protect people all around us too. Being angry about people not taking this seriously will only get us so far. We need to figure out what we can do to help ourselves as the restrictions are going to be loosened.
LuckyCharms
(17,413 posts)Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)I will wear my mask.
It doesn't bother me.
The virus will just mutant.
LowerManhattanite
(2,385 posts)
in this country from jump.
Large swaths of this country BARELY put any restrictions in order. Some did for a few weeks. Many more did so in word and willfully opted not to enforce. But youd think folks were oppressively Winston Smith-ed out here or something with the HomigawdIT WAS JUST TOO MUCH!-ing.
What this pandemic exposed is just how tough we are NOT, how selfish we ARE, and how utterly unable we are to deal with real adversity.
We are very much, to a personall out here on our own. A nation in borders only. Answerable to the pressure of the dollar only. Good luck to those tired (from jump) of caring.
Cha
(296,848 posts)on it!
TY
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)to follow suit.