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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOld white guy here. It seems to me that black people and female people have this in common:
both have to be smarter and work harder in order to succeed professionally.
Is there really any genuine concern that a black woman nominated by President Biden to the SCOTUS won't be extremely well qualified?
Seriously?
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Aussie105
(7,920 posts)But they will be looking keenly for slipups, you can be sure of that.
Then there will be a torrent of fake outrage.
brush
(61,033 posts)clutching of pearls routine at the outrageousness of such a thing.
unblock
(56,198 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)a high school student with no degree or law degree would wup the ass of Judge "I Like Beer"...........
or even some conservative judges who have been on the bench for awhile
Skittles
(171,710 posts)it's been that way for a long, long time
LoisB
(13,028 posts)Skittles
(171,710 posts)while it may not be difficult, it is painful not being given the automatic consideration so many white men get
I mean, seriously, how hard would it be to find a black woman more qualified than that piece of SHIT Kavanaugh.
LoisB
(13,028 posts)shouldn't a qualified black woman be given automatic consideration?
Skittles
(171,710 posts)too many white men automatically assume the best candidate is a white male, and if anyone else is selected, well, that's affirmative action!
Catherine Vincent
(34,610 posts)They make me sick!
demigoddess
(6,675 posts)you could find an amoeba more qualified than Kavanaugh.........
stage left
(3,306 posts)Barrett.
LoisB
(13,028 posts)happy feet
(1,279 posts)"luckily, that is not difficult'. Of course, the Kavanaugh bar is extremely low, but generally POC and women have to work twice as hard for most opportunities in life. and that 'is difficult' and disheartening just to have a chance at equal opportunity/consideration.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)You wanna see affirmative action? Look at 200 years of affirmative action favoring old white guys on the Supreme Court.
calimary
(90,019 posts)2naSalit
(102,791 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)That the nominee WILL be extremely well qualified. They dont care for that.
calimary
(90,019 posts)madaboutharry
(42,033 posts)I have found professional Black women in particular to be highly competent. I think youre right, it was a steeper climb for them. The hard work shows.
I think all this bullshit from republicans is nothing more than showing the racism that lives in their heart. They cant hide it. Maybe the dont even want to.
alfredo
(60,301 posts)they will receive the same shabby treatment they doled out.
Take your licks like an adult, you know like what Obama says, eat your peas.
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)alfredo
(60,301 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,477 posts)That sounds a lot more like vengeance than equality to me. The former is not necessary. The latter is.
alfredo
(60,301 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,477 posts)In the context I'm familiar with, "taking your licks" means accepting punishment for wrongdoing, not simply acknowledging that wrongdoing has occurred.
alfredo
(60,301 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,477 posts)The way you're phrasing this it sounds as if you want punishment, not equality and reconciliation. So like I said when we began discussing this, it sounds a lot like you're interested in vengeance. I don't particularly see how that's helpful to the cause of equality for all. Rather the reverse, in fact.
alfredo
(60,301 posts)Learning how to help, and unlearning old ways is another.
Eating your peas is doesnt mean they should be punished. It is dealing with how one feels about their past. It could be shame or self anger. Those feelings could form the basis of future actions.
Im not a big fan of should.
Malcom X and George Wallace became enlightened, and became better men. Malcom became enlightened on the Haj when he prayed alongside white Muslims. He could no longer see whites as the devil. George became wheelchair bound during his run for president against Nixon. The was paralyzed by a gun wielding would be assassin, Arthur Bremen. During his rehab, he was nursed by a black man. The unconditional love and care given to him melted his heart. He disavowed his hate.
BTW one of my school chums was George Wallaces nephew. He never changed his racist views, even after his uncles revelation.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Marcuse
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czarjak
(13,639 posts)calimary
(90,019 posts)And I'm white like all nine of 'em are. But that wouldn't count.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)since 2 of them must have been appointed to fill some quota for bow tie wearers
Oldtimeralso
(1,945 posts)The mango moron needs the lowly educated.
calimary
(90,019 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,624 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 2, 2022, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)
of the two black women who currently have TFG's balls in a vise (NYAG Leticia James, and prosecutor Fanni Willis).
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)MyOwnPeace
(17,552 posts)There's probably a posse from Texas looking for them now, 'inspired' by his awesome oratory at his last hate rally.
alwaysinasnit
(5,624 posts)halfulglas
(1,654 posts)Convince the gullible that the person next to them is taking advantage of them and getting something they don't deserve they are the ones running the game.
Poor Kavanaugh, that terrible experience those Democrats put him through. Trump's SC noms should be investigated for lying under oath during their hearings - of course they believe in settled law, sure.
JoeOtterbein
(7,869 posts)Duh???
Joinfortmill
(21,162 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,163 posts)Boof boy
Phoney barrett aka the hand maiden
and Clarence
What do they have in common, oh that's right NO SHAME !!
Repubs have to yell and scream about the nominee, cause all the stupid shenanigans they played on the last 3 unjust nominations
Greybnk48
(10,724 posts)(paraphrasing) JFK said a woman doctor would have to be twice as smart and work twice as hard to get through any med school full of white guys. Therefore, he preferred to have a woman doc. Smart man.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kennedy-appoints-first-female-presidential-physician
relayerbob
(7,428 posts)But of course, the GOP doesn't want a well-qualified judge in there. They want an easily controlled puppet.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)Make that 5 old white guys and one old black guy who wants to be a white guy.
Skittles
(171,710 posts)yes indeed
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)They know whomever he nominates will be super-duper qualified.
Collimator
(2,118 posts). . . of any organization while steeped in personal mediocrity are well-connected White males. Everybody else has to work to get anywhere.
This does not mean, of course, that all White males are mediocre. But the idea that there isn't at least one Black female judge in this country who is more qualified than Kavanaugh is a patent absurdity.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... men but 20 years later that age groups C levels still looks like pale, male and Yale ... or whatever mediocre college there is.
Humans will hire who they're comfortable with, that science fact should play into how HR depts act
calimary
(90,019 posts)Like that one! Has a nice ring to it!
hay rick
(9,605 posts)A history of 108 white male Supreme Court Justices and 0 Black female Justices is just one of those massive coincidences that's bound to crop up in a colorblind, nonsexist society.
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Especially since Trump put Amy Coney-Barrett up for nomination and many of the judges that were put up for lower courts were considered by the ABA to be "unqualified" for their appointments.
What we have with respect to the Conservative "concern" is just your standard racism. All of the idiots are our talking about how President Biden is "discriminating" against others to pick a Black Woman as if President Biden would just haul some random, high school graduate with no legal experience, Black Woman and put her on the court.
All of the women that are on President Biden's short list are extremely qualified and many have already been through the process of appointment and voted on by both Democrats and Republicans. As Jen Psaki said today, there were never any objections raised when Conservative presidents stated their intentions to put women on the bench. There is no real history of challenging the qualifications of candidates before their names are even submitted. If Conservatives have specific objections after they know the nominee, then that can be a valid thing. Right now it is just the fact that Black women are being looked at exclusively (or likely, at all) is the problem for Conservatives.
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)fitting that description, may be the ones to finally take that mofo down.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)Let the filthy racist Kennedy and GOP CHOKE ON IT. Fuck 'em ALL.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)it's absolutely racist for conservatives to assume that whoever Biden appoints won't be qualified simply because she's black. They didn't seem to have a problem with Amy Coney Barrett's complete lack of experience. There is affirmative action for unqualified young conservatives apparently.
CTyankee
(68,201 posts)somehow "lesser" talents. This from white males I know.
Fla Dem
(27,633 posts)roamer65
(37,953 posts)My sister is in a male dominated field.
She has to work her tail off whereas similar white male coworkers are allowed to slack much more.
soldierant
(9,354 posts)half as good. And the same is pretty much so for people of color.
Which means a blac woman would have to be four times as good in order to be considered a quasrter as good - which should hold both by addition and by multiplication,
So, yes. There is genuine concern among the ctitically ignorant.
Patton French
(1,824 posts)Has better bonefides than the men on the court