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634-5789

(4,175 posts)
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:08 AM Feb 2022

Anarchists are Building DIY Heaters to Keep Unhoused People Warm

Those damned do-gooder libruls!

Open-source blueprints are inspiring activists to distribute tent-safe heaters that can be built for as little as $7.
The units cost about seven dollars each when components are purchased in bulk, and they can be used for both cooking and warming small indoor spaces for hours at a time. If the heater tips over, the flame automatically burns out and, with proper ventilation, the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning is minimal because isopropyl alcohol combusts cleanly.

The instructional guide has been translated into several languages, and groups that build and distribute the DIY heaters have popped up in rural areas and major cities across the US, including in Pittsburg, Philadelphia, New York City, San Diego, Atlanta, Tacoma, Kansas City, Dallas, Kalamazoo, Elm Fork, Texas, and Spokane, Washington. Some groups are beginning to explore adapting the design for use in refugee camps, in areas that have experienced severe power outages such as Texas, and for the increasing number of people in the US who cannot afford utilities.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7nd5x/anarchists-are-building-diy-heaters-to-keep-unhoused-people-warm

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Anarchists are Building DIY Heaters to Keep Unhoused People Warm (Original Post) 634-5789 Feb 2022 OP
I looked into these last year after Greg Abbott's Winter Freeze MagickMuffin Feb 2022 #1
Just ordered an inverter for my Volt when(not if,) the power goes JCMach1 Feb 2022 #20
Looks like isopropyl alcohol is upwards of $20 / gallon Klaralven Feb 2022 #2
Yeah - that seems like the weak point. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #5
Any grocery store, dollar stores, etc. KS Toronado Feb 2022 #12
Two birds with one stone ToxMarz Feb 2022 #14
Lol anarchists are not liberals. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #3
They're not really Anarchists, either. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #17
You would be surprised at the political affiliation.... LeftInTX Feb 2022 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertGarden Feb 2022 #4
Agree - scary scary idea. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #6
Now imagine freezing to death. harumph Feb 2022 #7
I get it. It's probably more expensive for initial investment, but... lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertGarden Feb 2022 #10
You are definitely on the right track. Here's some ideas for warming centers... Hekate Feb 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertGarden Feb 2022 #23
The Unitarians, I think, spearheaded the outreach to churches at first. Very liberal bunch. Hekate Feb 2022 #27
I'm surprised they don't have anything available. LeftInTX Feb 2022 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertGarden Feb 2022 #29
There are terrible fires in apartment buildings every winter from unsafe heating... Hekate Feb 2022 #15
yes, this! librechik Feb 2022 #8
Banned in California Klaralven Feb 2022 #11
8 fluid ounces of alcohol equals 6.4 oz weight scipan Feb 2022 #26
We need something like that in my city IronLionZion Feb 2022 #13
Big talk. That's less than 36 months from now. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #16
They hold big press events when they open new shelters and affordable apartment buildings IronLionZion Feb 2022 #21
it's honorable, definitely. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #25
"with proper ventilation"....That ventilation is very cold. panader0 Feb 2022 #19
Anarchists or activists? apnu Feb 2022 #22
belief in self organized collective efforts is a key part of Anarchist philosophy DBoon Feb 2022 #30
Always happy to see people quoting my old friend Kropotkin ... TomWilm Feb 2022 #32
Too bad they can't be building homes... hunter Feb 2022 #31

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
1. I looked into these last year after Greg Abbott's Winter Freeze
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:12 AM
Feb 2022


I have a few for this year just in case.


Glad there are people willing to help out others in need.


JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
20. Just ordered an inverter for my Volt when(not if,) the power goes
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 01:13 PM
Feb 2022

Out this time...

You can use your Volt basically as a generator...

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
2. Looks like isopropyl alcohol is upwards of $20 / gallon
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:55 AM
Feb 2022

Where do the unhoused anarchists get isopropyl alcohol?

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
17. They're not really Anarchists, either.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 01:04 PM
Feb 2022

they're usually young people exploring those concepts. They're more likely Librulz than Cons.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
24. You would be surprised at the political affiliation....
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 02:51 PM
Feb 2022

Most of these DIY types are GOP.

Dog rescue people are also extremely GOP.

Response to 634-5789 (Original post)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. I get it. It's probably more expensive for initial investment, but...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:28 AM
Feb 2022

better to invest in good insulation than something dangerous which consumes expensive fuel. By insulation I mean better sleeping bags, insulated tents (yes, that's a thing), and sleeping pads. Invest once and reap the benefits longer-term. This is the sort of thing municipalities and other governments (all the way up to Federal) should be looking at. Better yet, some kind of decent shelter with real walls. There are an incredible variety of ideas out there for decent mass-producible shelters, ranging from a few hundred bucks up to a few thousand.

Response to harumph (Reply #7)

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
18. You are definitely on the right track. Here's some ideas for warming centers...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 01:09 PM
Feb 2022

I lived in the Santa Barbara area for many years. Yes, palm trees and no snow, but sleeping outdoors in winter can still kill you. Over the years the faith communities banded together, under the leadership of the Unitarian Society, and formed a network.

So some churches will open up. The Veterans Memorial Building opens up. In the 1990s the old National Guard Armory started opening up. These are designed as “low barrier” places, operating overnight. They are not permanent shelter.

Best of luck to you. And — welcome to DU.

https://www.edhat.com/news/freedom-warming-centers-now-operated-under-good-samaritan-shelter

Source: Freedom Warming Centers

In 2009, a Santa Barbara resident, known by the name of “Freedom”, died on our streets after being exposed to cold and wet winter weather. Stories like his were far too frequently in the news at that time, and our County’s annual “Homeless Death Report” marked winter after winter of preventable deaths from exposure to the elements.

A group of homeless advocates, faith community, and others began working on solutions that would reduce or eliminate the chances of anyone dying from winter conditions in Santa Barbara County. From those meetings, the Freedom Warming Centers was born.

The Freedom Warming Centers (FWC), a grassroots partnership between nonprofits and faith communities, provide temporary “pop-up” shelter for the County’s people living without homes during dangerously cold or damp weather conditions.

To make this effort sustainable, the Warming Centers needed a fiscal agent, to enable the program’s ability to raise funds, provide staff oversight, and manage the administrative tasks of this critical new program.

The Unitarian Society of Santa Barbara answered that call with the intent to administer the FWC for a few seasons until the program was self-sufficient, or until a service agency could take on the administrative duties.

Those “few years” quickly became twelve seasons! With the successful growth of the program, the Warming Centers now require an organization with larger administrative capacity to support this vital service: an organization whose core mission is to serve our houseless neighbors. …….

Response to Hekate (Reply #18)

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
27. The Unitarians, I think, spearheaded the outreach to churches at first. Very liberal bunch.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 03:26 PM
Feb 2022

Nearly everybody has a “hall” — a multipurpose room with no permanent furniture, often rented out to members of the community, used for everything you can think of. I’ve attended public meetings, receptions for weddings and funerals… But the point is, you’re not asking them to randomly open their sacred space, just the public space.

The Veterans Memorial Building likewise has some very public spaces, and all kinds of events are held there.

I have a feeling you’ll soon be able to think of other spaces — especially since you soon will find others to work with you.

Peace to you as well. May your community be open and accepting.


Response to LeftInTX (Reply #28)

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
15. There are terrible fires in apartment buildings every winter from unsafe heating...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:36 PM
Feb 2022

People will try to use kitchen stoves as heaters, among other things.

librechik

(30,673 posts)
8. yes, this!
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:23 AM
Feb 2022

I've been meaning to post, as these homemade heaters can keep people from freezing to death. They are not super comfy, but the contraptions could have saved a lot of heartbreak in Texas last winter. I just assumed Texans all bought the new F150 trucks with the power backup option.

This is good for everyone else. But be careful you idiots!

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
13. We need something like that in my city
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:15 PM
Feb 2022

There are way too many big dangerous open fires in these homeless camps that often get out of control and burn the whole camp down.


Of course the priority should be to build enough housing. Our mayor declared the goal of ending homelessness completely by 2025.

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
16. Big talk. That's less than 36 months from now.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 01:01 PM
Feb 2022

How many on the streets of your town? Your county?

What the rate new affordable units are coming online?

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
21. They hold big press events when they open new shelters and affordable apartment buildings
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 02:18 PM
Feb 2022

sounds like an honorable goal

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
25. it's honorable, definitely.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 03:14 PM
Feb 2022

here in Seattle, the need far exceeds the ability to create new units. 7000 on the street.

i've been working on a 125 unit building since 2017. not complete till next year. it takes a looooong time to bring affordable housing on line.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
30. belief in self organized collective efforts is a key part of Anarchist philosophy
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:44 PM
Feb 2022

From the Wikipedia article on Peter Kropotkin, explaining his concept of mutual aid:

According to Kirkpatrick Sale, "[w]ith Mutual Aid especially, and later with Fields, Factories, and Workshops, Kropotkin was able to move away from the absurdist limitations of individual anarchism and no-laws anarchism that had flourished during this period and provide instead a vision of communal anarchism, following the models of independent cooperative communities he discovered while developing his theory of mutual aid. It was an anarchism that opposed centralized government and state-level laws as traditional anarchism did, but understood that at a certain small scale, communities and communes and co-ops could flourish and provide humans with a rich material life and wide areas of liberty without centralized control.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kropotkin

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
32. Always happy to see people quoting my old friend Kropotkin ...
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 07:00 PM
Feb 2022

He was the main force trying to explain and broaden Darwin's too often misunderstood bit about the survival of the fittest. Namely that the species most fit to cooperate will win in the evolutionary race:

"... It is a feeling infinitely wider than love or personal sympathy – an instinct that has been slowly developed among animals and men in the course of an extremely long evolution, and which has taught animals and men alike the force they can borrow from the practice of mutual aid and support, and the joys they can find in social life. ..."
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