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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"That's a goddam lie!" ---- something we need to say more often.
It does not need to be loud or said with clenched fists. In fact, it will likely be more effective if we say it with a small pitying smile.
When someone says something totally outrageous that has been debunked many times---i.e., "Trump won by a landslide" or "vaccinations have killed thousands" or "Those who invaded the Capitol last year were patriotic tourists", they are not "mistaken", they are evil; they are not presenting "the other side", they are lying. Don't let them hide behind the pretense that they actually believe what they just said. Damn few are truly THAT stupid.
Liars deserve to be called liars.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)choie
(4,107 posts)fuck the words "falsehoods" or "untruths" THEY'RE LIES!
KS Toronado
(17,187 posts)I'll smile and ask "Want to bet a $100 on that fact?" Sometimes I even get to say "Hey is that a smart phone
you're holding? Not afraid to use it are you?"
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Instead they carefully scribe each and every word without mention of their veracity, or chase false leads knowing from the beginning that it's a bunch of bullshit.
Bettie
(16,084 posts)lies.
No soft words to make them feel better about their lies. We just need to say "You are lying" openly and plainly.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
Bayard
(22,038 posts)But I continue to be amazed that the rabble is that gullible.
We can call them whatever we want--they're never going to hear it on Fox.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)"If someone else lies, and you repeat that lie, does that make you a liar too?"
That usually shuts them up.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)I have to stop saying "that's a fucking lie, you gullible sheep!"
Joinfortmill
(14,409 posts)calimary
(81,192 posts)I think in reference to Dubya, that oh-so-delicately asked: Prevaricating President?
I saw that and said a big loud What The Fuck????
What was their point? How did they think that would land with readers (not all of whom care that much about alliteration and consonance tricks)? Did they think anybody would get the point with the 50-dollar word usage? Did anybody even know what the word prevaricating was?
And why didnt whoever wrote that just put it out there as a LYING President? Other than trying to impress readers with a fancy vocabulary choice? Or, worse, attempting rather embarrassingly to call the asshole a liar without actually calling him a liar? Didnt want to hurt his little fee-fees? Didnt want to risk the vengeful wrath of kkkarl rove & company?
Still one of the biggest stand-out Suck-Ass quivering sphincter moments in print journalism. Really took a feather duster to that gunfight. And a tiny feather duster at that.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)... call the liars stand on it especially if you have countering information so that the liars credibility is lowered and people will remember your reaction to the lie.
hay rick
(7,603 posts)A couple weeks ago I was talking to someone about the Omicron resurgence and he said it wouldn't end until we stopped the people coming across the southern border. I said "That's nonsense- that is not where it's coming from." No conversations since.