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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,713 posts)
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 02:39 PM Feb 2022

Fox News could be in big trouble: Dominion's huge defamation lawsuit makes a strong case

Dominion Voting Systems' lawsuit against Fox News is moving forward, despite the cable juggernaut's efforts to derail it. In mid-December of last year, the Delaware Superior Court ruled that the defamation case against Fox would not be dismissed, despite the channel's request. What's in question is Dominion's allegation that Fox News trafficked in propaganda on behalf of former President Trump, falsely alleging that the election was stolen and that Democratic voters engaged in massive voter fraud. Dominion has also targeted other right-wing media outlets on a similar basis, including Newsmax and One America News, claiming they indulged in a "barrage of lies" against the company by falsely implicating it in participating in voter fraud.

Predictably, Fox News responded to Dominion's allegations by denying any responsibility. The outlet claimed that "Fox News, along with every single news organization across the country, vigorously covered the breaking news surrounding the unprecedented 2020 election, providing full context of every story with in-depth reporting and clear-cut analysis. We remain committed to defending against this baseless lawsuit and its all-out assault on the First Amendment."

Despite the channel's categorical denial of wrongdoing, it's been clear for some time that Fox News engaged in all types of unfounded speculation about election fraud. I document the various ways the outlet did this in my new book, "Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here." For example, in the aftermath of the 2020 election, Fox News host Mark Levin hosted Kenneth Starr, the former special prosecutor who spent years investigating Bill Clinton. Without presenting evidence, Starr accused Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, of engaging in "illegal" and "unconstitutional" acts by counting supposedly fraudulent votes. Lou Dobbs called on Trump to take "drastic action" in relation to the former president's rhetoric about fraud. For Dobbs, that included the Supreme Court reversing the electoral college votes in swing states that cut toward Biden. (Needless to say, an issue well outside the court's, or the president's purview.) Tucker Carlson speculated about voter fraud by claiming that "dead people" voted "in large numbers." Numerous other Fox hosts, including Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro and Maria Bartiromo, linked Dominion to similar claims of fraud.

Judge Eric Davis recognized Fox's role in stoking Big Lie election propaganda in the Dominion judgment. Davis reflected in his legal decision that "Fox News and its news personnel continued to report Dominion's purported connection to the election fraud claims without also reporting on Dominion's emails" to the network in response to those claims, which presented compelling evidence to undermine the fraud narrative. Davis wrote: "Given that Fox apparently refused to report contrary evidence, including evidence from the Department of Justice, the Complaint's allegations support the reasonable inference that Fox intended to keep Dominion's side of the story out of the narrative."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-could-be-in-big-trouble-dominions-huge-defamation-lawsuit-makes-a-strong-case/ar-AAToC5H

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Fox News could be in big trouble: Dominion's huge defamation lawsuit makes a strong case (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 OP
FOX. Future home of Dominion News. Budi Feb 2022 #1
Great name WA-03 Democrat Feb 2022 #3
That would be huge. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #7
Would be a real FEAR spreader empedocles Feb 2022 #2
The Only Way to Get Rupert Murdoch's attention leftieNanner Feb 2022 #4
Ditto! BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #35
fox might have a lot of un-employable people in near -future ??? monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #5
I bet Peter Doocey won't be looking for a job for very long rurallib Feb 2022 #9
He'll be shining Psaki's shoes, while she's giving a Presser Budi Feb 2022 #11
dominion could put a llot of talk radio hosts out of jobs if they knew. the limbaugh estate should certainot Feb 2022 #40
I hope they bankrupt Fox and Rupert along with it. LoisB Feb 2022 #6
That would be great. dchill Feb 2022 #14
In my mind I see Neville Longbottom slicing off Nagini's head tavernier Feb 2022 #8
Now that is an image to warm up this cold, snowy day! niyad Feb 2022 #18
Ken Starr wasn't "investigating" Bill Clinton. calimary Feb 2022 #10
Thank you, Cali........ MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #12
I do, too, my friend. I do, too. calimary Feb 2022 #13
The irony of Kenny Starr and his over-extension of investigation...... MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #17
And let's not forget... robbob Feb 2022 #22
Indeed! Starr led the ORIGINAL "WITCH HUNT!!!!!" MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #25
all that was done because they had rw radio to spread it. cllintons should sue limbaugh, hannity and certainot Feb 2022 #41
She says they wanted her to say she had an affair with Clinton. louis-t Feb 2022 #26
The double standard in countless areas is so blatant Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2022 #38
And his protege - Brett Kavanaugh. Grins Feb 2022 #34
He was supposed to investigate Whitewater and ended up investigating a blowjob AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #21
Maybe he had a thing for kinky sex? calimary Feb 2022 #28
And I would add homegirl Feb 2022 #42
Yes. She was. Over 21. calimary Feb 2022 #50
Ken Starr got fired from Baylor Univ for ignoring rape on campus Seinan Sensei Feb 2022 #45
Oh man, so much through the ages has been written about self-hatred... calimary Feb 2022 #47
Article written Gilbert Moore Feb 2022 #15
A Hostile Takeover Of Faux Noise Could Be Entertaining smb Feb 2022 #16
I would love to see Carlson and Hannity fired and kicked out of the building. Prof. Toru Tanaka Feb 2022 #19
Is that building a single story? soldierant Feb 2022 #32
Ain't gonna happen. They are Fox's largest source of revenue. 3Hotdogs Feb 2022 #33
Besides, OAN or Newsmax would try to grab 'em to pull themselves out of oblivion. calimary Feb 2022 #48
Good malaise Feb 2022 #20
Fade to black SallyHemmings Feb 2022 #23
Good. Bury the b*stards.. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #24
The Murdoch boys will soon be unemployed FakeNoose Feb 2022 #27
Dominion's cases are all defamation cases, so they have to prove... CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #29
EVERYTHING WILL BE APPEALED nvme Feb 2022 #37
Shut the assholes down. we can do it Feb 2022 #30
Define "Big Trouble" maxsolomon Feb 2022 #31
EVEN IF DOMINION WINS nvme Feb 2022 #36
Believe it when I see it Sherman A1 Feb 2022 #39
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #43
make them pay, SUE THEM OUT OF EXISTANCE YoshidaYui Feb 2022 #44
It's about time Fox faced reality. Martin68 Feb 2022 #46
Yes. It most certainly in. calimary Feb 2022 #49
Dominion knows that the first amendment defense won't hold up. Aussie105 Feb 2022 #51
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
11. He'll be shining Psaki's shoes, while she's giving a Presser
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:30 PM
Feb 2022


"mmm....missed a spot Peety"
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. dominion could put a llot of talk radio hosts out of jobs if they knew. the limbaugh estate should
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 11:50 AM
Feb 2022

be included in theeir suit - the giuliani/powell press conference was timed to start with the limbaugh show that day to reach a much larger live audience and imbaugh went right along with it- there was reason

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
8. In my mind I see Neville Longbottom slicing off Nagini's head
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:13 PM
Feb 2022

and that’s what I wish for the venomous Fox.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
10. Ken Starr wasn't "investigating" Bill Clinton.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:18 PM
Feb 2022

He was busily and eagerly and obsessively PERSECUTING President Clinton.

And came up with NOTHING.

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
12. Thank you, Cali........
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:36 PM
Feb 2022

Ken Starr's actions was one of the most egregious abuses of the 'Special Prosecutor' position in US history.
Wish there was some way that he could go down with the SS Trump.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
13. I do, too, my friend. I do, too.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:46 PM
Feb 2022

He hasn’t gotten NEARLY the comeuppance he deserves. Bastard deserves to be in jail.

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
17. The irony of Kenny Starr and his over-extension of investigation......
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:56 PM
Feb 2022

according to what he was 'told' to investigate - was - THE FRICKIN' Repukes were standing on Mueller's shoulders making sure he didn't look past 1 door too many!

Oh, and then there's this one 'witness' from the 'Starr Inquisition' who 'wouldn't talk' - you know, like Mark Meadows, Steve Bannon, Gym Jordan, etc...........

"Her refusal to answer "three questions" for a grand jury, on whether President Bill Clinton lied in his testimony during her Whitewater trial, led her to receive a jail sentence of 18 months for contempt of court."


robbob

(3,750 posts)
22. And let's not forget...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 05:31 PM
Feb 2022

Whitewater was already investigated and cleared by a moderate Republican special council who determined there was no impropriety. That didn’t satisfy the repukes so they appointed Starr to keep digging.

The repukes have been rat fucking America for a long time now.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
41. all that was done because they had rw radio to spread it. cllintons should sue limbaugh, hannity and
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 11:56 AM
Feb 2022

levin etc

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
26. She says they wanted her to say she had an affair with Clinton.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 05:39 PM
Feb 2022

She refused. Yet tfg is directing all of his worshipers to ignore subpoenas.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
38. The double standard in countless areas is so blatant
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 03:36 AM
Feb 2022

Ans so very infuriating. Rs care nothingfor truth or justice.

Grins

(9,459 posts)
34. And his protege - Brett Kavanaugh.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:43 AM
Feb 2022

Both of them despicable frauds.

And they weren’t the only ones back then, and by ‘ones’ I mean Republicans.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,780 posts)
21. He was supposed to investigate Whitewater and ended up investigating a blowjob
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 05:22 PM
Feb 2022

That's quite a stretch

calimary

(90,021 posts)
28. Maybe he had a thing for kinky sex?
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 05:46 PM
Feb 2022

And hated Bill Clinton because Bill liked the ladies and many of them liked him, too.

He was, after all, the first “young” President to come along since JFK, and he was smart, engaging, photographed well, had a fun out-going personality and sense of humor, AND sex appeal like JFK did, but with an “aw shucks, I’m just a country boy” kind of cachet.

Massive appeal! Especially after we’d had a series of old guys in the White House including the dried-up old prune Ronnie Reagan. And Bill Clinton was noticeably younger and more photogenic than the other “old men” (George H.W. Bush, and the dour Bob Dole four years later) he successfully ran against. And he had a working wife who was “somebody” in her own right, independent of his achievements, which I personally found to be instantly attractive. “First Baby Boomer President”. I remember thinking “wow - a First Couple I can actually relate to!”

calimary

(90,021 posts)
50. Yes. She was. Over 21.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 02:37 PM
Feb 2022

She wasn’t some “innocent, preyed upon.” She was a willing and active participant. As I recall from reading about it back then, it all shifted from mere mutual flirtation when she flashed him. And nobody ever held a gun to her head and made her do that.

Nobody held a gun to her head and made her do ANY of it.

Seinan Sensei

(1,546 posts)
45. Ken Starr got fired from Baylor Univ for ignoring rape on campus
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:29 PM
Feb 2022

Ken Starr "who took a popular president down a peg for lying about sex lost his own job as [Baylor] university president for presiding over a system that shielded rapists and ignored victims. And now the great investigator of Clintonian infidelity stands accused of having an extramarital affair himself." (Salon, Aug 15, 2021)

calimary

(90,021 posts)
47. Oh man, so much through the ages has been written about self-hatred...
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 02:26 PM
Feb 2022

Makes me wonder if some of these assholes who persecute others are, themselves, perpetrators.

Gives a whole new view of the obsession he had to “get” President Clinton.

With this scumbag Starr, I’m having a hard time NOT reaching that conclusion.

Gilbert Moore

(220 posts)
15. Article written
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:49 PM
Feb 2022

with a little love..

in my new book, "Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here."

and it's by Anthony R. Dimaggio

smb

(3,598 posts)
16. A Hostile Takeover Of Faux Noise Could Be Entertaining
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 04:55 PM
Feb 2022

Personally, if I somehow got control of them, I'd leverage it into making the clown crew obviously beclown themselves by doing on-air interviews with transparent wackjobs talking about the crop circles that appeared in the south forty of the perpetual motion machine they made out of old tractor parts or the proof that you can tell the IRS to take you off their mailing list and never pay taxes again. Of course, all programming would have frequent and prominent disclaimers explaining that it was a parody show, not actual news or commentary.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,926 posts)
19. I would love to see Carlson and Hannity fired and kicked out of the building.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 05:11 PM
Feb 2022

Better yet, be physically thrown out through the doors.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
32. Is that building a single story?
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:50 PM
Feb 2022

Because if there are upper levels, defenestration sounds tempting..

calimary

(90,021 posts)
48. Besides, OAN or Newsmax would try to grab 'em to pull themselves out of oblivion.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 02:28 PM
Feb 2022

Otherwise, there’s almost no room for them IN the “room” with Pox Noise sucking up almost all the oxygen.

CaptainTruth

(8,200 posts)
29. Dominion's cases are all defamation cases, so they have to prove...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 05:56 PM
Feb 2022

From Cornell Law:

To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.

To me, 1 & 2 should be easy. The challenges will be proving sufficient negligence, & proving the amount of damages. There's no question damage was done to Dominion's reputation & business, but quantifying that damage & proving the amount can be a challenge.

nvme

(872 posts)
37. EVERYTHING WILL BE APPEALED
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 02:38 AM
Feb 2022

I WILL GIVE YOU 3 GUESSES WHO WILL BE THE ULTIMATE ARBITERS OF THE CASE.

maxsolomon

(38,727 posts)
31. Define "Big Trouble"
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 06:12 PM
Feb 2022

They might have to pay a settlement to Dominion? They had the money to buy off Kelly, Carlson, the woman who accused O'Reilly, etc., and they didn't even blink an eye.

nvme

(872 posts)
36. EVEN IF DOMINION WINS
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 02:37 AM
Feb 2022

TFG STACKED THE SUPREMES AND THEY WILL OVERTURN THE VERDICT CLAIMING 1ST AMENDMENT

LymphocyteLover

(9,847 posts)
43. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:15 PM
Feb 2022

Also I would love to get some major class action suit going against them for spreading anti-vax misinfo/disinfo

YoshidaYui

(45,415 posts)
44. make them pay, SUE THEM OUT OF EXISTANCE
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 01:27 PM
Feb 2022

MAKE THEM too broke to run their network, burn the place to the ground!!!

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
51. Dominion knows that the first amendment defense won't hold up.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 06:11 PM
Feb 2022

You can't shout FIRE! in a crowded picture theatre without evidence.

Fox had no evidence saying Dominion machines were, or could be rigged.

Fox was 'reporting' rumor as 'fact'. Someone fed them that, and they ran with it, as a news item.
It wasn't 'They could be rigged, and it needs to be looked at'. They just went with it, as if it was a fact that needed no proof.

Dominion has a reputation to defend.

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