Anyone think there will EVER be another TFG?

[bluestarone]

NOWAY he'll be re-elected, but could there ever be another animal like him? Wouldn't surprise me if Marjorie taylor Greene took his FN place!

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Oh - I'm 48

I believe there with be a MF45 in the American Political landscape for the rest of my life.

[Texaswitchy]

2. I agree

The horse is out of the barn.

[Midnight Writer]

3. There will always be TFGs.

He ain't the problem.

People who support him are the problem.

[iemanja]

4. +1

[Miguelito Loveless]

5. I think it dangerous to dismiss him

He may not win re-election, but he will seize power if he is not in jail. He will simply declare he won, call on his flying monkeys to go out and "back his win" and literally set off a civil war. While I trust the military to do what's right, I do not trust state and local law enforcement to not back Trump. Once these people are given an excuse use all the guns they have, things are going to get bloody. And even if the insurrection is suppressed, it will be at great expense.

[Bleacher Creature]

6. People tend to copy what works.

Not everyone who tries to unite his insane base will be successful, but I'm pretty sure some will.

[bluestarone]

9. YEP! This was like their first real attempt!

Now phase two will be the STATE'S legislators problem!! They will try to STEAL the election from all of us voters! Like stated above the horse is OUT of the barn!!

[NoMoreRepugs]

7. DeSantis is trying hard to create Trumpistan here in Florida.

[GoCubsGo]

20. Josh Hawley is also waiting in the wings.

Just as disgusting as Trump, only somewhat smarter. Much like DeathSantis.

[unblock]

8. As long as foxnews is treated as a legitimate news organization,

instead of the fascist propaganda machine that it is, we will have a king series of would-be dictators and lying nutjobs.

[Ocelot II]

10. There always have been and always will be people like him -

megalomaniacs, psychopaths, the Hitlers and Stalins who became dictators, and plenty of others who wanted to be dictators. Whether someone like Trump can becoming another Hitler or Stalin is determined by their ability to get people to follow them. MTG doesn't have TFG's ability to con people - she's obviously an idiot, as are most of the other Trump wannabes. TFG had the advantage of existing fame, in particular the fiction created by his reality tv show, that conned people into believing he was a brilliantly successful billionaire businessman - and Americans love flashy rich people. None of the other wannabes have that advantage; the likes of MTG and Lauren Boebert are trashy loudmouths; DeSatan and the other established politicians are boring. But we have to watch out for the charismatic demagogues.

[jmbar2]

11. Hundreds of Minis are emerging from the toxic spores he has scattered

[OhZone]

12. I'm not sure.

There is something very unique about Rump.

There were always liars and fledgling fascists on the right, but Rump is special -

Because he lies almost constantly and seems to largely believes his own lies, self-gaslighting.

He lives in his own delusional world that has just enough reality to fool his fools.

He has so much narcissism and genuine insane hate in a psuedo-rich white-male-tall-blonde (fatass) shell, that others would be hard to mimic. Yeah, I think his look is part of it all for the neo-nazis. Upper European of German heritage. It's all part of the evil package, I'm afraid.

Oh well.

[kskiska]

25. He's so unique

I doubt anyone can name one other person with the same bag of evil qualities.

[Hekate]

13. Yes, I do. America, along with most of the rest of the world, is taking a hard right turn...

It seems we are in one of “those places” in world history, and it really is not all about us.

Regarding the US, we have a population that is more ill-educated and ill-informed than ever before. They are frightened (social change, climate change, pandemic, lots of things), and frightened people are angry. Trump has molded his followers into a mob, and mobs are irrational and dangerous, yet easily-enough they can be aimed — at the Capitol, for instance.

In such situations, people look for a strongman to make it all go away. They want certainty, not freedom. Oh sure, they’ll bleat about their personal freedom, but what they want is a strongman to tell them what’s what, and who The Other is so they can blame the Other for their problems.

Trump only looks unique. In some ways maybe he is, yet he is paving the way for American strongmen to come, people with more brains and a longer vision. And such people are fine with chaos as a way to ascend to power.

We are, I think, at a turning point in history across the world. It will be very difficult to effectively pull together on climate change or the pandemic under the circumstances. Chaos-leaders and strongmen don’t gain much, if anything, by encouraging their populations to unite around anything but themselves.

We are fortunate to have Joe Biden as a respite. Oddly enough, I felt exactly the same about Barack Obama, coming as he did after 8 years of BushCheney. Obama wasn’t the answer to all our problems: he was a respite and a chance for us to get our act together. Instead, we got Trump and the mother of all backlashes.

Well, this is bleak. Yet — there is hope. There is always hope. I think we know what to do.

[bluestarone]

14. Great thoughts here!

I completely agree!!

[JohnSJ]

15. Hell yes. Just look at the governors of Florida and Texas

[bluestarone]

18. Oh YEA!

There out there for sure! Russia and China just waiting for the NEXT ONE!!

[JohnSJ]

19. Unfortunately

[Caliman73]

16. We have had his type of character before.

Trump modeled some of his antics, and apparently admired to some degree, Andrew Jackson. Jackson was a vulgarian, undisciplined, person who picked fights (literally and figuratively) with everyone, who was racist, sexist, etc... Nixon, though much smarter and able to mask the depths with which he wanted total power, was similarly corrupt. Nixon absolutely HATED the press and it was he, Pat Buchanan, and Roger Ailes who began working toward what became Fox News and the right wing propaganda media system. Warren Harding was a scandalous MFer. He and Coolidge (mainly because of Harding) had the most scandal plagued and corrupt administrations prior to Nixon's.

This is the problem with sanitizing American History. We like to think that Trump is an aberration. Unique in his corruption. Trump is the result of one Party, and ideological movement (Conservatism) not caring about ethics, morals, and laws so that they could maintain power even though they really are the minority of people in this country.

What the above mentioned Presidents did not have at their disposal, that Trump and anyone who follows in his foot steps, is a coordinated media system that has 30% of the people detached from reality. The Republican Party has moved so far to the right that neither Nixon, nor Reagan would likely be acceptable to them these days.

One thing we can be relatively assured of is the Greene will NOT be the next person to become the leader of this movement. She is at her apex now and will likely be out of office and out of power in the next few years.

[Hekate]

22. Indeed, this is what we get for sanitizing American history. Good points all. nt

[durablend]

17. "NOWAY he'll be re-elected"

Me thinks you're WAY too optimistic based on the electorate.

[Johonny]

21. Do we think the GOP will ever have anyone like Eisenhower?

I think every candidate from now on for them is more an influencer than a politician.

[Initech]

23. Oh there could easily be someone way worse than Donny!

Especially if they found someone who's younger, more charismatic, and doesn't have a criminal record, they could really do some damage.

[Ms. Toad]

24. Pretending he will not win in 2024 is the same delusion

which brought us 2016, and a much closer race in 2020 than it had any right to be.

We have to take him seriously - or we will pay the price when he wins, as we did from 2017-2021.