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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsINFLATED: Ivanka Trump under fire for suspected lending fraud
https://occupydemocrats.com/2022/02/02/inflated-ivanka-trump-under-fire-for-suspected-lending-fraud/According to Maddow, Tish James is arguing that the means by which the Trump Organization described their own financial condition in order to get the lease and the loan were both fraudulent.
The MSNBC host explained exactly how the alleged fraud surrounding Ivankas apartment took place: .........
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SharonClark
(10,014 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Implants Oh wait, that's a fraud too, or two.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)so there's that.........
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)and intentional, especially given the ALL CAPS.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)So, at one point in my life, I had a class that was composed of roughly, shall we say, City Girls and.. Country Girls.
One day, City Girl comes into class with dreds, whereas last week, she had short cropped hair.
Country Girl asks, 'wait. Is that your hair?'
Class instructor (who was ALSO a City Girl says--and this is a DIRECT QUOTE).
'Country Girl... theres a thing you need to learn real fast. A Black Womans hair, is like a White Womans titties...if you paid for it, ITS YOURS.'
now, me personally, I dont think I've ever laughed harder in a classroom in my whole damn life.
But all the White Girls, well, let's just say they had themselves a WHOLE damn come to jesus moment.
MLAA
(17,285 posts)Response to Volaris (Reply #30)
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calimary
(81,222 posts)will likely try to use the "I'm just Daddy's little girl and don't know about details" defense. I think before it's over Allen Weaselnuts will have some more headaches too.
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)I misread that ALLEN - ALIEN.
So the first one could be the CFO of Trump's Company.
The second one is Ivanka's husband.
niyad
(113,278 posts)Not sorry.
niyad
(113,278 posts)leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)But then, when has Ivanka thought things out?
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)...of Ivanka introducing herself to the ladies in the day room of the prison, trying her debutante voice on them.
DENVERPOPS
(8,817 posts)Trailer Trash Barbee a cell with Bang-Bang Boebert.........
tblue37
(65,340 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,785 posts)SergeStorms
(19,199 posts)Daddy's little tart, trying to communicate with the big girls.
They're looking at her like a turd floating in a punch bowl.
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)The cavity search when she's first "inducted".
SergeStorms
(19,199 posts)Daddy's cavity searches probably weren't quite as rough, but it won't be her first time.
ShazzieB
(16,384 posts)Comfortably_Numb
(3,804 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)malaise
(268,966 posts)Lock them up.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)Says what she knows should be appropriate for the situation, but it comes off as shit because she is so terrible at faking it. Worse, she thinks her pretense of proper isnt obvious.
nattyice
(331 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)Reality Doesn't work for them
Emile
(22,702 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)Disaffected
(4,554 posts)why could they claim it as an asset at all, let alone for $20MM?
KS Toronado
(17,214 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)I Would make a small and conservative bet that she flips to some minuscule degree, to try to maximize her chances to reset and retain their sick dynasty.
She might actually push the argument that her dad isnt and wasnt compos(t) mentis.
gab13by13
(21,321 posts)Trump used her when he committed fraud and laundered money.
It was Ivanka's name on the Trump tower in Baku, Azerbaijan that only laundered money.
It was she who applied for the loans using bogus data.
Trump doesn't have to throw her under the bus, she is already under the bus.
KS Toronado
(17,214 posts)$20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 & zero sense.
gab13by13
(21,321 posts)KS Toronado
(17,214 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)...and given all that is publicly known & has been leaked, what lenders are still giving them loans?
Another loan officer got fished in by inflated assets & understated debt?
Said loan officer is too dumb to keep the job.
They can't be defrauded if they say "No!"
under the table perhaps?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)gab13by13
(21,321 posts)the same bank where Justice Kennedy's son gave Trump the huge loan. Putin's bank, VTB bank was backing Trump's loans at Deutche.
diane in sf
(3,913 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)I was on both the executive & lending committees of a community bank. (Was board of directors secretary, too.)
The bank can't consider, even if legitimate, third party money in securing a loan, unless that third party cosigns, thereby taking responsibility for the repayment.
Given the overall financial situation around the family & company, this is a high risk loan. Bankers have access to nonpublic information (like the Moody's report, even if it wasn't leaked).
They KNOW the professionally assessed value of assets, the actual overall debt load, etc.
Unless those Russian mobsters cosigned the loan, their money is irrelevant to the bank.
And, if it was a "secured" loan, why would they need to inflate assets & underreport debt?
spanone
(135,829 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)she will take the 5th amendment all day long.
Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)Turbineguy
(37,322 posts)She's a trump.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Those Trumps are one nasty family.
sprinkleeninow
(20,242 posts)😝 🤣
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)He breaks, without any question in my mind. She is the only thing beside himself that is of any importance to him.
gab13by13
(21,321 posts)he used her name to do his fraud to keep himself out of trouble.
tinrobot
(10,895 posts)I honestly think she'll be the first of the kids to spill the beans.
She has no loyalty - she'll do whatever it takes to save her highly-moisturized skin.
MLAA
(17,285 posts)AverageOldGuy
(1,523 posts). . . Princess Sparkle Pony learned how to commit bank fraud, insurance fraud, and tax fraud all in one document. Probably learned it at her father's knee . . . or on his lap.