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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 06:26 PM Feb 2022

INFLATED: Ivanka Trump under fire for suspected lending fraud

https://occupydemocrats.com/2022/02/02/inflated-ivanka-trump-under-fire-for-suspected-lending-fraud/

.... according to MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, James is focusing on an apartment associated with Ivanka Trump for its role in helping the Trump Organization obtain the loans needed to lease and operate the Trump International Hotel in Washington DC.

According to Maddow, “Tish James is arguing that the means by which the Trump Organization described their own financial condition in order to get the lease and the loan were both fraudulent.”

The MSNBC host explained exactly how the alleged fraud surrounding Ivanka’s apartment took place: .........









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INFLATED: Ivanka Trump under fire for suspected lending fraud (Original Post) L. Coyote Feb 2022 OP
Isn't Fraud her middle name? SharonClark Feb 2022 #1
And I thought it was L. Coyote Feb 2022 #3
well, the thread title is "INFLATED" Grasswire2 Feb 2022 #5
That most certainly was a clever inference L. Coyote Feb 2022 #9
Nope not allowed to go there, AND let me tell u a story. Volaris Feb 2022 #30
Works for me! MLAA Feb 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author 3Hotdogs Feb 2022 #56
Excellent! calimary Feb 2022 #63
She moniss Feb 2022 #29
Allen Weaselnuts - Alien Weaselnuts leftieNanner Feb 2022 #32
you nearly owed me a keyboard. niyad Feb 2022 #44
Sorry leftieNanner Feb 2022 #45
It was worth it. niyad Feb 2022 #48
I think Alien Weaselnuts is a very good name for Jared. leftieNanner Feb 2022 #49
She'll flip I predict. Kingofalldems Feb 2022 #2
No Designer clothes and makeup in prison. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2022 #4
I would pay to see a cam capture.. Grasswire2 Feb 2022 #6
Maybe they should give this DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #16
It will be as unwelcome as this: tblue37 Feb 2022 #17
Ivanka with world leaders keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #35
That's hilarious. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #36
She's definitely not gonna like leftieNanner Feb 2022 #34
I don't know about that. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #38
No botox injections or other fancy facial treatments, either! ShazzieB Feb 2022 #51
I'm thinking we are about to see some cracks in Ceramic Barbie. Comfortably_Numb Feb 2022 #7
White Crackle. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #11
A family of criminals, fraudsters and Cons malaise Feb 2022 #8
Ivanka Trump is the worst of the bunch in my opinion. LiberatedUSA Feb 2022 #10
No, Junior is worse with cutting off that elephant's trunk nattyice Feb 2022 #57
Rt TY little fucking Cheaters cause Cha Feb 2022 #12
The whole crime family needs to be behind bars. Emile Feb 2022 #13
Like father, like daughter Poiuyt Feb 2022 #14
And sons. Actually, the whole family. Paper Roses Feb 2022 #31
Very true. I'm still holding out hope for Barron though. Poiuyt Feb 2022 #59
If she only had an option to buy the apartment (at $8.5MM), Disaffected Feb 2022 #15
daddy's asset??? KS Toronado Feb 2022 #18
To defraud the creditor by securing a loan. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #22
Since she is so garbage and since she is the worst possible successor I can imagine to Trump, FreepFryer Feb 2022 #19
Trump used her to keep his hands clean, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #20
My 4 BR, brick house on corner lot with 2 garages in rural America must be worth KS Toronado Feb 2022 #21
Yeah but how much is it worth at tax time? gab13by13 Feb 2022 #26
$1.98. niyad Feb 2022 #46
Went up this year to $2.98 KS Toronado Feb 2022 #61
After All This Time... ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #23
Money moniss Feb 2022 #25
Ding, Ding. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #27
The one and only Deutche Bank, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #28
Money secured by Russian mobsters. diane in sf Feb 2022 #60
Legally, That's Not A Secured Loan ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #64
what a sweet little 'first' family spanone Feb 2022 #24
State and Federal walls closing in on Trump Cabal. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #33
If she shows up Mr.Bill Feb 2022 #37
Each of the Trump first grandsons should be named RICO! Thunderbeast Feb 2022 #39
She can't help it. Turbineguy Feb 2022 #40
She's both complicit and a sacrificial lamb Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #41
They really should go easy on her though bc she IS stylish and pretty. sprinkleeninow Feb 2022 #42
If they nail her (and that's a big if) Sherman A1 Feb 2022 #43
I am not so sure, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #53
The odds that she'll flip on Daddy just went up. tinrobot Feb 2022 #47
Yep, she is her daddy's daughter! MLAA Feb 2022 #54
So . . . AverageOldGuy Feb 2022 #52
InvestigateIvanka.com TomDaisy Feb 2022 #55
The thick plottens, indeed. n/t aggiesal Feb 2022 #58
Iklinka tRump Blue Owl Feb 2022 #62

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
30. Nope not allowed to go there, AND let me tell u a story.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:46 PM
Feb 2022

So, at one point in my life, I had a class that was composed of roughly, shall we say, City Girls and.. Country Girls.

One day, City Girl comes into class with dreds, whereas last week, she had short cropped hair.
Country Girl asks, 'wait. Is that your hair?'

Class instructor (who was ALSO a City Girl says--and this is a DIRECT QUOTE).

'Country Girl... theres a thing you need to learn real fast. A Black Womans hair, is like a White Womans titties...if you paid for it, ITS YOURS.'

now, me personally, I dont think I've ever laughed harder in a classroom in my whole damn life.

But all the White Girls, well, let's just say they had themselves a WHOLE damn come to jesus moment.

Response to Volaris (Reply #30)

moniss

(4,231 posts)
29. She
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:40 PM
Feb 2022

will likely try to use the "I'm just Daddy's little girl and don't know about details" defense. I think before it's over Allen Weaselnuts will have some more headaches too.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
32. Allen Weaselnuts - Alien Weaselnuts
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:52 PM
Feb 2022

I misread that ALLEN - ALIEN.

So the first one could be the CFO of Trump's Company.

The second one is Ivanka's husband.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
6. I would pay to see a cam capture..
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 06:34 PM
Feb 2022

...of Ivanka introducing herself to the ladies in the day room of the prison, trying her debutante voice on them.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
36. That's hilarious.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:06 PM
Feb 2022

Daddy's little tart, trying to communicate with the big girls.

They're looking at her like a turd floating in a punch bowl.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
38. I don't know about that.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:08 PM
Feb 2022

Daddy's cavity searches probably weren't quite as rough, but it won't be her first time.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
10. Ivanka Trump is the worst of the bunch in my opinion.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 06:43 PM
Feb 2022

Says what she knows should be appropriate for the situation, but it comes off as shit because she is so terrible at faking it. Worse, she thinks her pretense of proper isn’t obvious.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
15. If she only had an option to buy the apartment (at $8.5MM),
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 06:58 PM
Feb 2022

why could they claim it as an asset at all, let alone for $20MM?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
22. To defraud the creditor by securing a loan.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:16 PM
Feb 2022

Part of the fraud has to include not revealing the option to purchase, obviously.


FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
19. Since she is so garbage and since she is the worst possible successor I can imagine to Trump,
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:12 PM
Feb 2022

I Would make a small and conservative bet that she flips to some minuscule degree, to try to maximize her chances to reset and retain their sick dynasty.

She might actually push the argument that her dad isn’t and wasn’t compos(t) mentis.

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
20. Trump used her to keep his hands clean,
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:13 PM
Feb 2022

Trump used her when he committed fraud and laundered money.

It was Ivanka's name on the Trump tower in Baku, Azerbaijan that only laundered money.

It was she who applied for the loans using bogus data.

Trump doesn't have to throw her under the bus, she is already under the bus.

KS Toronado

(17,214 posts)
21. My 4 BR, brick house on corner lot with 2 garages in rural America must be worth
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:16 PM
Feb 2022

$20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 & zero sense.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
23. After All This Time...
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:22 PM
Feb 2022

...and given all that is publicly known & has been leaked, what lenders are still giving them loans?
Another loan officer got fished in by inflated assets & understated debt?
Said loan officer is too dumb to keep the job.
They can't be defrauded if they say "No!"

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
28. The one and only Deutche Bank,
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 07:39 PM
Feb 2022

the same bank where Justice Kennedy's son gave Trump the huge loan. Putin's bank, VTB bank was backing Trump's loans at Deutche.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
64. Legally, That's Not A Secured Loan
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 09:10 AM
Feb 2022

I was on both the executive & lending committees of a community bank. (Was board of directors secretary, too.)
The bank can't consider, even if legitimate, third party money in securing a loan, unless that third party cosigns, thereby taking responsibility for the repayment.
Given the overall financial situation around the family & company, this is a high risk loan. Bankers have access to nonpublic information (like the Moody's report, even if it wasn't leaked).
They KNOW the professionally assessed value of assets, the actual overall debt load, etc.
Unless those Russian mobsters cosigned the loan, their money is irrelevant to the bank.
And, if it was a "secured" loan, why would they need to inflate assets & underreport debt?

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
43. If they nail her (and that's a big if)
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:32 PM
Feb 2022

He breaks, without any question in my mind. She is the only thing beside himself that is of any importance to him.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
47. The odds that she'll flip on Daddy just went up.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:46 PM
Feb 2022

I honestly think she'll be the first of the kids to spill the beans.

She has no loyalty - she'll do whatever it takes to save her highly-moisturized skin.

AverageOldGuy

(1,523 posts)
52. So . . .
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:01 PM
Feb 2022

. . . Princess Sparkle Pony learned how to commit bank fraud, insurance fraud, and tax fraud all in one document. Probably learned it at her father's knee . . . or on his lap.

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