Why Joe Rogan Matters

[New Breed Leader]

We are a culture which elevated a conman TV host to the presidency. We will be recovering from that for decades. And the sickness in which he trawled isn't cured. It's going stronger than ever, aided and abetted by a political party which has given itself over to nihilism.

What Neil Young and his peers are doing in reaction to Rogan is essential. It is the first grumbling of people being fed up with the decadence into which our society has fallen. Usually, talk of "decadence" is something which gets the right riled up. But we are in a decadent phase of our civilization. We honor people of no import, who contribute nothing to society except entertainment. Rogan was paid $100m by Spotify for exclusive rights to his podcast. People compete on Love Island, or Survivor, and become rich and famous. But we can't pay nurses or teachers what they're worth, what the jobs they do actually merit for the contributions they make to society.

Read the whole thing here:
https://establishmentbar.blogspot.com/2022/02/why-joe-rogan-matters.html

[uponit7771]

1. Rogan's show makes a case for a Real Time Fact Check Consortium where people allow their content

... to be fact checked real time on their shows.

Rogan does something similar to this when he goes to the internet to fact check himself and guest and his audience eats it up.

Except for when it comes to COVID I don't understand how the disconnect has been allowed EXCEPT for the fact Rogan doesn't bring credible doctors on the show to talk about the issues regarding covid.

[Farmer-Rick]

16. Rogan is a racist and right wing tool

I made the mistake of listening to him years ago about diets. Even then he came across as an idiot.

I can't believe Spotify. I cancelled my subscription.

[uponit7771]

18. Yeah, no wonder that guy attracts so many MAGA's.

[gab13by13]

2. During the Iraq war

the people who laughed at Bagdad Bob's radio broadcasts now believe Joe Rogan, Bow tie boy, and Sean Hannity. Their critical thing has disappeared.

[GoneOffShore]

3. Or the wires in their critical thing are shorted out.

[YorkRd]

4. Rogan is "Don't Look Up" in real time

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[Joinfortmill]

17. Don't get me started on this Peterson...

he's another one that draws you in and then shows himself to be chauvanistic, misogynistic, creepo.

[Alice Kramden]

5. Really good article

Thanks for posting

[ancianita]

6. That "culture" in your excerpt is only 23% of America. 77% did not vote GOP. Case closed.

[Ferrets are Cool]

9. And yet they can still keep any significant progress from being made in Congress.

[ancianita]

25. So far. If the same 81 million turn out for the midterms, or even 75 million, that will change.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. Well written and to the point article

We live in a post truth world and Joe Rogan is at the tip of the spear right now. And Joe knows better, he is smart enough to know the truth on matters like Covid and Climate Change. He knows his audience, his schtick is "I'm just asking questions, listening to all sides." He's become unfathomably rich working this schtick.

He started out on his podcast talking about things like hunting, sports, martial arts, and even particle physics, but he went more towards politics as he's gone along. He's no longer "listening to all sides", he's simply bringing on Right Wing Loonies at a rate of 10 to 1 vs people from the left. His producers are keenly aware of what brings him the ratings, and it's Rightwing conspiracy theories and anti science nonsense.

He matters because he has 50 million listeners who think he makes a ton of sense. He matters because he mixes a lazy attitude towards the truth with enough pseudo intellectual snark that people think he's an authority. And he's just "asking the questions" so he bears no responsibility in his own mind for the deaths he is causing. Joe Rogan is powerful, he knows he is, he's choosing to use that power to make the country worse because that tact also makes him richer.

[Joinfortmill]

15. You're right. I guess the lure of the money got to him in the end.

[Ninga]

8. Rogan is sliding into Limbaugh's spot. Ugh. Nt

[Ferrets are Cool]

10. My thoughts exactly.

[sop]

12. Limbaugh would tell his listeners the U.S. was divided into two universes:

the first was a lie, controlled by "the four corners of deceit" (media, government, academia and science), the other was "where we are," and "where reality reigns supreme."

Decades of this sort of propaganda brought us to where we are today.

[Klaralven]

11. Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.

H. L. Mencken

[Joinfortmill]

14. True

[New Breed Leader]

26. or the intelligence.

[Joinfortmill]

13. Yup, all part of the dumbing down of America,

which seems to be going quite well, I'm sorry to say.

[Historic NY]

19. Joseph Goebbles used radio

[link:https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/radio-in-nazi-germany/|]

Goebbels believed that radio was the most effective way of putting over a message. The public had to leave home to go to the cinema while some simply did not read a newspaper and Goebbels was less confident that newspapers were the perfect form of spreading the message.

Isn't much different, then vs now, people don't read, they take the internet and what celebrities say as gospel

[Karadeniz]

20. A decadent phase of our civilization.... Phases don't last for centuries!!!!!

[JI7]

21. He is supported mostly by a libertarian, sexist type men

this includes many non white men also even though there are issues of racism with him . In fact many non white men will overlook the racism if they agree with the misogyny .

[zentrum]

22. Thanks for posting this.

.....great statement.

[lonely bird]

23. Spotify actually doesn't give a damn

Their focus is on expanding podcasting and moving away from music.

Roman is symptomatic of what media has become. Spotify may claim that they are not media but the reality is that they are. What moves the needle has become the entire foundation of media.

[Skittles]

28. neither do a lot of their users

they care more about music than they do about taking a stand against something that is truly harming America

[dlk]

24. Good article except for the nod to bothsiderism

The throwaway comment about, “much of the same on the left” simply isn’t true.

[Skittles]

27. enough people need to make a stand

enough people to truly CARE to make a change

[MichaelSoE]

29. Thanks for the link and welcome to DU