Trump had planned and "gamed" it all out from the very beginning

[UCmeNdc]

'Scam from the very beginning': Morning Joe explains how newly revealed memos expose Trump's 'intent' to steal the election

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said the latest reports on Donald Trump's efforts to undo his election loss show it was a "scam" from the start.

Newly revealed legal memos show the twice-impeached one-term president's allies intended to send alternate electors as early as mid-November, as part of an effort to pressure vice president Mike Pence to undo an election loss that wasn't officially determined at that point, and the "Morning Joe" host said that revealed the entire effort was bogus from the start.

"What were they doing?" Scarborough said. "Look at the states where he was claiming there were scam results. Wisconsin had a Republican legislature, Pennsylvania had a Republican legislature, Michigan had a Republican legislature. We said on this show months ahead of time, counted Election Day, count all of the votes Election Day, because there was a proposal to do it like Florida does, or else this is exactly what is going to happen and it happened."

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-election-lies-2656542047/

[secondwind]

1. He knew he was going to lose... he knew it... he saw the numbers.......

[snowybirdie]

2. Credit where due

This was all laid out by Rachel Maddow last night. Joe just reiterated it.

[Bettie]

4. I'm thinking you have an autocorrect thing there

Rachel Marrow...Maddow! LOL.

Wish I'd seen it.

[snowybirdie]

6. Thanks

Done

[2naSalit]

3. And I wonder...

Who helped him figure out all the parts he's too stupid to grasp?

pooty and a handful of oligarchs who also own some congresscritters most likely.

[malaise]

5. He told everyone who had ears to hear

[trusty elf]

10. He is so repulsive!

It's staggering how smug and full of himself he is!

Never ceases to amaze me.

Lock him up!

[malaise]

16. Under which normal rules was he guaranteed two terms?

Repulsive is kind

[KPN]

12. Look at how small his hand and fingers are in that picture!

[wnylib]

19. I love how the hair color job

leaves some white at the temples, as if it's supposed to look distinguished.

Just looks like a bad color job.

[dwayneb]

7. "scam" softpedals this

Using the term "scam" minimizes what Trump and the leaders of the Radical Right did in the election of 2020, and what they will do in 2024 and 2028 and elections into the future.

This was a treasonous, seditious PLAN and it was pretty well executed, even in this trial run in 2020.

Media outlets are still terrified to use the "F" word and the "T" and "S" words, still afraid to tell the truth. Sedition. Treason. Fascism.

They still softpedal the truth and at the end of the day when the modern day equivalent of the Gestapo steps into their offices to silence them it will be far too late.

[gab13by13]

13. So does the word riot.

They need to be called traitors. It needs to be called an attempted coup to overthrow our democracy. I take that back, the insurrection didn't end on 1/6, the insurrection continues stronger than ever with no coup planner being held accountable.

[dwayneb]

26. Agreed

Media is scared to death to report the facts. These acts were treasonous and seditious. Trump movement and today's Republican party is effectively a Fascist organization. I get really sick of watching these entertainers dance around the truth because it might upset someone.

[A HERETIC I AM]

17. THEY CAN NOT WIN UN LESS THEY CHEAT

Full stop

[imanamerican63]

8. Yep!

His whole life has been a scam! He was a scam artist when he was born! Yet today, he is still trying to get people to fall for his scams!

[johnthewoodworker]

9. Fascist Republicans politicians will steal, gloat, and skate away. Democrats will do nothing.

[gab13by13]

14. It isn't up to Democrats to indict the traitors.

The select committee is doing a fantastic job, is doing all that it can to expose the traitors.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Kick and rec for Trump's yeoman-like cultists.

[DownriverDem]

15. Blame also

goes to non-rich repubs (mainly white). They vote their hate thinking "others" are getting a ton of free stuff. They ignore that repubs are trying to get rid of the programs they will need or are currently on. I will never understand non-rich repubs.

[Mr. Ected]

18. If you can convince 70 million people to vote for you after the debacle of his first term

You can convince them that an election was stolen without a scintilla of proof and further convince them to channel their inner righteousness that something was stolen from them that properly belonged to them.

This is a huge brainwash experiment and there is no lack of lackies.

[captain queeg]

20. He is such a gangster wanna-be. And not particularly smart.

He uses the spaghetti on the wall method to plan his crimes. It becomes more obvious daily why he is so fixated on having “loyal” people around himself.

[certainot]

21. this assswipe was enabled all the way by limbaugh/putin and 1500 radio stations and dems need

to stop ignoring that ongoing problem. limbaugh wont be there to excuse trump and the treasonous cons but leaving the 1500 now no so coordinated radio stations to keep beating up on biden and the next supreme is very bad strategy

[FalloutShelter]

22. This plus a totally bent GOP

Willing to back treason. Still willing to back treason.
Let’s face it… this is all GOP AND PUTIN with a clown car of grifters. TFG could not plan his way out of a paper bag. He is the Trojan horse.

[certainot]

24. i dont think GOP establishment was up for it though. this was putin using trump and a whole lot

of sycophants who followed trump and licked his ass

imo trump has a classic very bad case of sex on the wrong brain, like hitler and other authoritarian leaders. TFGs brain can't recognize uncertainty, doubt, nuance and there is no imagination to imagine consequences and failure. everything has to be certain, final. he denies anything else. life is a game of golf - just going from one hole to the next. he sees something and he just goes for it and because he grew up very rich no one ever punched it out of him, and it just got worse and worse. he learned to deny anything that didn't fit the scenario in which he was king of the world.

that royal i'm never wrong certitude is a drug for frightened authoritarians who depend on leaders to simplify the world in absolutes to help them create certainty and avoidd the uncertainties and complications that frighten and stress them.

for trump losing the election was completely impossible to imagine. the smarter racist fascist assholes around him fed him possibilities and he told them to do it. just like when after the intel briefers told him COVID could kill millions and worse case he would have to take all sorts of emergency power and cancel elections etc - so he WANTED it to get worse - he told limbaugh to call it a hoax and guys like stephen miller and son in law and donjr would come up with all sorts of stupid ways to turn a pandemic into a moneymaker.

[FalloutShelter]

25. The GOP is totally silent on all of this.

They are complicit and have been taking Russian money laundered through the NRA for at least two decades. They are all a little bit dirty with Russian money. That’s how it works in NY real estate also… everyone has their hands out and they are all a little dirty. So I do think they are down for all of this.
Trump ha been aRussian asset since 1989.

[kentuck]

23. Even though he could have asked for a recount in Wisconsin...

...he chose not to. Instead, he preferred to go a different route, with the fraudulent electors. He seems to have made up his mind at that time that Mike Pence could be persuaded to carry out his wishes. He could have asked for legal recounts and did not. Why? Because he knew the only way he could possibly stay in office was to steal the election from Joe Biden and overturn the votes of 81 million Americans.