Be honest, how many of you knew we were doomed the moment Trump was elected.

[fightforfreedom]

I did, I started putting more money in my savings account the day after he was elected. I absolutely knew a Trump presidency could not work. That was the bottom line. I knew it would end in some type of catastrophic event, economic disaster, war, something. I did not see the attempted coup coming. I did not see covid coming when Trump was elected. But I did know it would not work, it was obvious.

This has been a long, exhausting road.

[JohnSJ]

1. I knew it was going to be very bad

[CrispyQ]

4. Ditto.

I was worried the moment he came down the escalator & announced his candidacy. Two of my closest friends laughed at me. "Donald Trump will never be president." They didn't laugh when he won, but they did say, "It's only four years."

[lagomorph777]

2. I knew it would be extremely bad.

Could not sleep at all that night, and very poorly for the next four years.

[Kaleva]

83. How bad did it actually get for you?

[Delphinus]

3. Immediately.

When I woke up that morning and heard, I just wanted to go die. I cried for days.

[Tetrachloride]

5. The areas of predicted trouble didn't exactly occur

Most areas were worse than predicted. Environment, voting, blatant greed.

[brooklynite]

6. Of course we weren't doomed...

Sad to think you were so scared that you pulled your money out of the bank. How much interest did you lose, and how much investment revenue did you give up?

Last time I checked, we're all still here, the Democrats are running the Government, and we're free to share as many "we're doomed!" prognostications as we want.

[fightforfreedom]

9. No, I put more money in my savings account.

[Hekate]

31. Interest? What is this interest of which you speak? Ours has been at 1% or so for some time.

Still, the bank seems safer than the mattress, so there you have it.

[BradAllison]

53. "Running the government"

I forgot. You're a Mansion guy.

[brooklynite]

60. So which Democrats are NOT running the Government?

President Biden?

Speaker Pelosi?

Majority Leader Schumer?

Are you suggesting that they're not doing their jobs?

[BradAllison]

61. I want BBB passed

Do you?

[brooklynite]

62. Yes, I do...

and the failure to do so up to this point is in no way an indication of "we're doomed".

[BradAllison]

64. I guess everything is great at a 1500 a plate dinner.

[brooklynite]

65. Your insult is duly noted...

Shall I bring it up next week when I talk to the Governor of Wisconsin about the election situation? Ask if he thinks we're "doomed"?

[Ferryboat]

7. When I pulled over on the way to work to throw up.

Woke the wife up with my swearing. At work all the customers everyone had that look of shock. Pretty much confirmed what I felt.

[peggysue2]

8. Hand raised!

I knew the night of the election results--an illegitimate, ignorant, immoral pig had been thrust into office.

What could go wrong?

Everything.

[Meowmee]

77. Yes I was so upset my father had to help calm me

Etc. On a primal level I knew what was coming. Now my father is gone forever. Murdered by that bastard and others. I wish we had left as soon as he was installed in office.

[luvs2sing]

10. I knew we had turned a corner as a country..

and were facing evil unlike anything we had faced before. Nothing that has happened since has shocked or surprised me.

[fightforfreedom]

13. I was shocked when Trump decided to lie about a deadly virus.

That was quite crazy and I was shocked trump voters would believe his lies as they watched their loved ones , friends die.

[KT2000]

11. I recall my brother

telling me - the worst we feared was going to happen is going to happen. It's like watching a movie now.

I knew when Ted Kennedy died, the liberal cause, the heart of America, died too.

[BlueJac]

12. He is a con man...

That doesn't turn out well, we got conned!

[hamsterjill]

14. I most definitely knew.

I knew he didn’t win fairly either. Can I prove it? No, so like Hillary, I shut up about it and suffered for four long, terrifying years.

I do not relish a repeat.

[Vinca]

15. I thought it would be bad, but it turned out far worse than I (or anyone) could have imagined.

Who would have believed a person, when faced with a deadly pandemic, would lie their asses off day after day after day and directly contribute to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans? And, of course, there's the attempted coup.

[UTUSN]

16. "elected"? - Almost all of us knew before that. Perhaps we didn't think he would be elected,

but knew at least what an a** he was/is. The escalator day was appropriately horrible, but until the election we dared to not believe he would actually win. Neither did he, for that matter.

But like with Shrub, but even worse, we knew he would be very bad but could not even imagine how *BAD* he would be. Worse than Shrub because he put democracy itself under assault.

As for him as a detestable specimen, I destested him from years back. I sampled about a season of The Apprentice because when people are talking up a "thing," I need to sample it to see what it's all about and arrive at my own take on it. Like with the KARDASHIANs, I gave them two seasons and this many years later it's incredible that they are in the tabloids every danged day, with just a change of clothes or lack thereof, birthdays, vacations, whatever. I don't look at those items.

But with Drumpf, I took the detestation to my petty lengths: Whenever I'd go to the clothes big box store, just the SIGHT of his band on shirts and ties would get me *OUT* of "his" aisle and into any other one.

When he came down that escalator it became a very different kind of *HATE*. And Election night was a near cardiac event. But absolute dread took over for the next five years and it ain't over.

[Tommy Carcetti]

17. I knew we were in serious danger. I knew there would be bad times ahead.

I wouldn't say doomed.

Hopefully we can still make our way out of this mess.

[Mr.Bill]

18. I've been aware of what Trump was for decades.

How he acted was no surprise to me. The surprise was that so many people approved of it.

[Hekate]

19. I saw his American Carnage speech at the RNC, & Nicolle Wallace & Steve Schmidt's convo after...

They were sitting in the darkened ballroom or whatever it was, balloons and streamers lying about them, NBC cameras rolling as they gave their impressions. They were beyond stunned. Steve choked up when he talked about the Constitution.

I already knew what Trump was. The GOP had every opportunity to stop him before it got that far. So his election, and the weeks that followed — I just kept thinking how fast the takeover was, and why didn't someone stop him.

I don’t know about doomed. We managed to get Joe Biden in — and as I’ve said before, he’s not the Messiah, he’s a respite so we can get our act together.

We need to get our act together.

That said, from the time Trump came in I started keeping my car’s tank full. I set aside a little cash every month, and keep it in a safe but convenient place in the house. I believe my passport still has some years on it, and I know which border is closest — I could get to Mexico on a half-tank I believe. My husband favors Canada, but that would take days, and you know what? Mexico has an international airport. ——- That is how badly Trump and his Trumpistas rattled me.

We need to get our act together.

[Patterson]

20. I did. It was obvious.

[ruet]

21. How Could One Not Know? -NT-

[CousinIT]

22. I absolutely knew it. One of the most HIDEOUS days of my life.

Maybe THE most hideous.

[mvd]

23. I was worried we were doomed

The more I knew about the guy, the more I knew how evil, narcissistic and sociopathic he is. And we almost were doomed. Only his incompetence saved us from an all out battle for our democracy.

[Meowmee]

24. I knew it as soon as that fucking

Psycho fascist was allowed to run for office while inciting violence and no one did a thing.

[wiggs]

25. insider Omarosa knew '...America isn't going to be OK' in a tearful confession. nt

[Aristus]

26. I was so physically sick from the outcome of Election 2016, I had to take the next day off work.

In 2020, I booked Election Week off, just in case the worst happened.

[Freddie]

30. My coworker and I cried at our desks all day

Was (stupidly) hoping he’d at least be a useless idiot like GWB sort-of was. Nope. Worse than anyone could have imagined. At least I had someone at work (love ya, Paula!) who hated him as much as I do.

[panader0]

27. I knew that we were in for a shit show.

But I never thought we were "doomed". If we had been doomed, would we still be alive?
I've followed your posts and like what I read, but there are so many here who say we are doomed
by a number of different things. Roe vs Ware cancelled?--We're doomed. Voting rights restricted,
we're doomed, slow prosecutions, we're doomed.
Too much doom here sometimes. So things won't be easy--try harder. Sometimes you have to go
uphill, downshift and do it.

[OneGrassRoot]

28. I lost faith in humanity...

which was the one thing that sustained me all these decades. Add the QAnon/Nazi proliferation during a pandemic and well…:

😢😢😢😢😢

[doc03]

29. Any sane person should have known he would

be a disaster. I was thinking more like he would start WWIII not
attempt to overthrow the government. We are lucky him and the people around him are not very intelligent.

[Hekate]

32. So far no one's mentioned the Great DU Hack. At first I thought DU was just having heavy traffic...

…even tho our very experienced Admins had prepared for it. I was alone watching the returns — and I mean alone.

[Initech]

35. I remember that!

That's when I knew that we were fucked... Like something really bad was going to happen.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

56. I remember the DU hack.

Never got my original account or name back.

The fuckers who hacked DU I still want to kick their asses up to thier elbows.

[Meowmee]

75. I remember that

But I had joined right before the election, came back the next week and then had to rejoin I think or change my info. I can’t remember if I saw that crazy video now or not.

[Hekate]

85. I never saw any of it. DU was just... gone. I think Earl or Skinner finally got directions to FB up...

… and that’s how I got my DU fix, with reassurances DU was not dead. FB itself was — odd. Here at the board I have a screen name, and on FB I felt very exposed in a world of trolls, who definitely showed up.

[Meowmee]

86. Sorry you went through that

The only reason I joined this site was because I had a question about something Kellyanne Conway said on TV and when I googled it this site came up so I read a post or two here and I may have even asked a question and joined. That was I think the night before the election. Then I did not come back until probably a week later and the site was down. I don’t really have a clear memory of it now but I remember someone saying there was an awful video that was posted when the site was down. Maybe they posted a picture or a screenshot of it and that is why I have some memory of it.

[Initech]

33. I did. When he got elected I just had this feeling like something really bad was going to happen!

Of course I had no idea that it would be raging pandemic, and attempted overthrow of the government bad. But I definitely had that feeling seeing the election results that something really bad was going to happen. And I also feel like the worst of it hasn't happened yet. Who knows what those cretins are capable of if they get a second chance at power?

[czarjak]

34. I can't believe still we lasted four years without a nuke launch. One silver lining.

[Hortensis]

36. :) Obviously, we're playing with an extremely loose definition of "doomed."

We would have to live with whatever we got until we fixed it. Very few would be able to run away and leave the mess (and responsibilities, like elderly parents etc) to others.

There's lots of talk about the "end" of our country, but there'd be no "end." We, or someone, would always have to fix whatever was ended and broken.

Lots of talk of what's being "lost." Restoration of what was lost because we couldn't save it would, of course, get a lot harder and farther away.

But doomed would mean doomed to have to do it.

As Fightforfreedom must realize.

Fwiw, our history and traditions, our complaisance, and our expectations, even our complaining, are all about the rights of the people to government-protected pursuit of happiness (how's that term for a "privileged" people?) and our rights to secure, comparatively easy living. Unlike so many other cultures, complaisance about government is our tradition, there is no old tradition of fear and oppression to return to. That has to be a strength.

[Ferrets are Cool]

37. No doubt, but I bet NONE of us knew to what extent.

Who had a coup attempt on their scratch off cards?

[Grins]

38. My 1st thought 08 Nov. 2016...

We will take the House in 2018.
We will take the Senate and the House in 2020.
We will take the White House in 2020.

Because he would be THAT bad.

[Midnight Writer]

39. Honestly, it was not as bad as I feared.

Unfortunately, it's not over.

Just like W started crap that we will likely never recover from (remember, W was handed a balanced budget and a blueprint to pay off all our national debt, and he threw it all away in mere days), the Trump Administration will continue to damage us in the future.

Trust (in our country, our government, and our neighbors) and our national reputation are in the toilet.

[demtenjeep]

40. oh hell yesand I got very depressed. I couldn't watch any news for months

I was also very sick during that time and I just slept A LOT

had to go on anti-anxiety meds too

[shrike3]

41. I remember telling a Trump voter, "Do you have any idea what you've done?"

I was laughed at. For quite a while. Then most people stopped laughing.

[CTyankee]

42. I was in shock. I literally did not know what we were going to do as a country.

I had gone to bed election night thinking HRC had won. In the middle of the night I got up to see how many more electoral votes she had collected overall. Then I saw the words "President-elect Trump." I don't know how I got through those next hours...

[Hamlette]

43. my fear came when he claimed his crowd was bigger for inauguration than Obama's.

Election Day was pretty upsetting but I kept thinking our country can survive. When his lies were so real, so unnecessary, so banal and still so dangerous I was terrified.

[Xolodno]

44. I thought he was going to be all Pomp and Circumstance.

Do the state dinners, cut ribbons, etc. (which he did). But the people behind him, Bannon, Prebus, McConnel, etc. would be the real power behind the throne and undo a lot of progress. And the kids were there just to manage his PR tightly so he didn't fuck up. Remember reading about his time on the Apprentice he really didn't do anything and the person going home was pretty much a lock. He would just get some highlights and do the show.

Imagine to all the GOP leaders surprise when it turned out he was actually going piss on them and do what ever the fuck he wanted. They thought they had a honed media guy who would play the game...but actually got cray cray.

[Paladin]

45. I underestimated how stupid and evil he is.

I won't make that mistake again.

[Chainfire]

46. I knew that it would be bad

but I could have never imagined that it could be as bad as it is. I used to think that our Democracy was strong enough to stand up to an occasional bad apple in the White House. I now believe that Trump and his Republican allies have snatched the last brick out of the American foundation. We are still standing out of habit but one more shock and we could be gone.

[dmr]

47. The same as you, BUT ...

I was sick at heart when Hillary didn't win, and we were stuck with an ignorant buffoon. My son tried calming my fears by saying Congress would hold his feet to the fire.

I could not have imagined that the near-entire of the GOP would acquiesce to this evil liar. He was enabled by them, and he got away with so very much.

How one man could have such a stranglehold on thousands of people; some of whom are very fearful of him. It challenges everything I've always believed!

It makes me sick -- literally.

[XanaDUer2]

48. I knew we were fucked

And he was far worse than even I knew

[kacekwl]

49. I knew we were fu#ked but I hoped

there were others in his party who would not allow him to destroy the country. Boy was I wrong.

[Emile]

50. I knew this guy was a con man since the 1980's.

What surprised me was how many didn't know that. People sent him to Washington to shake things up and boy did he and not for the good.

[DET]

51. Still Can't Believe It

My first thought was that Trump had rigged the election. My second thought was that this was going to be a disaster. My third thought was that the legislative branch would save us from the worst of his excesses. Only the second was true, although I couldn’t possibly have imagined how bad things would get. And I never thought that Republican legislators could be so amoral and craven and the American public so stupid.

[2 Meow Momma]

52. I knew. nt

[Joinfortmill]

54. Election night

I went to bed and pulled the covers over my head. The next morning I began to make a plan to leave the country, if it came to that. I'm still here and I still have my plan.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

55. I knew

Hated trump since I saw him on tv bragging about shit he had,slapping his name everywhere.


I felt terrified. And trapped after he got elected,I have SSI would he cut it?

Would I lose my low income housing?

Medicaid?

I was terrified I wouldn't be able to stay on my meds.
I was terrified I might become homeless.

I have no way to escape the country.I cant drive and do not have a vehicle.
Besides what country welcomes "non productive"disabled gender twisted immigrants?

I thought if he destroyed
My life..I would just kill myself.
But I wasn't going to be the only one taking a dirt nap.

Because of covid I didn't want to be near a hospital because diabeties comprimises your immune system.

Many times I was triggered by that monster. I felt unsafe.
I felt terribly alone.
Very vulnerable.
Helpless over my situation.
Invisable
I wanted to die.
I was so pissed,felt like my country was turning inside out. Evil people were going to fuck everything.

So overwhelmed. Felt like psychosis,the anxiety,depression..all my symptoms were kicking my ass .

Those feelings haven't gone away. They won't go until trump is dead or in jail or cannot run.

[Joinfortmill]

57. Take care.

[New Breed Leader]

59. (((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))

[New Breed Leader]

58. I knew in 2015 and tried to tell people

They all laughed at me, said I was melodramatic.

They ain't laughing no more.

[dwayneb]

63. I saw it all coming

A long, long time before Trump was even on the radar screen. Even back to the days of the John Birch Society and Goldwater (yeah I'm an old codger).

It was during Reagan's administration that the end game of the Radical Right should have became clear to everyone. Unfortunately we spent the ensuing decades ignoring the reality and instead pretending that surely some super hero would come along one day and save us. Self indulgence and apathy are what brought us to this point more than anything.

Of course no one saw Covid coming except maybe guys like Fauci.

[ecstatic]

66. I knew he was dangerous, but I was thinking nuclear bombs, etc

This pandemic / democracy fallout is pretty much equivalent.

Many people thought it was fun and games when he was steamrolling through the primaries, but I knew that even cruz was the better option for the gop nominee based on the threat tfg posed. SMH.

[AmBlue]

67. I was physically sick

...when I woke the next morning and saw my greatest fear had come true. I didn't think we are "doomed," but I certainly knew the potential existed. I felt strongly that he would do severe damage to our institutions and feared just how bad it might get.

When that bloated pustule got to replace RBG-- after the farcical Gorsuch and beer-breath rapist Cavanaugh-- I cried for our country. It STILL makes me sick.

[llmart]

68. I knew.

Anyone who has ever done extensive research and reading about malignant narcissists would have had some inkling of what could possibly happen with him in the highest office in the land. If anyone has ever been entangled with an extreme narcissist, they would have known that about him from his history. He is a damaged individual.

[Poiuyt]

69. Maybe after he was elected, but not while he was running.

During the primaries, I thought he would be better than Ted Cruz. I never dreamed anyone could be so bad.

[brooklynite]

70. If we've been doomed since Trump was elected in 2016, why are you still here?

[roamer65]

71. I ended up in the hospital

BP went out of control and chest pains.

The stress of knowing the downfall of the United States had arrived.

[turbinetree]

72. Me.....

[Skittles]

73. he wasn't elected, he was installed, with help from Russia

but yes, I knew that putting an incompetent dictator-wannabe piece of utter fucking shit into the White House was never going to end well

[Nay]

74. Yeah. I was pretty sure he was going to win, mainly because of my lack of

confidence in the brainpower of the American citizenry. I stayed up all night that night, and when he did win, I fell into a depression that lasted a year at least. I knew we were all done for.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

76. I told my wife the night he was nominated by the pukes...

"This won't end well."

Even then I had no idea that would include a million Americans dead.

[Captain Zero]

78. 2016: I stated it will end badly, like in A constitutional crisis.

I told several people. This guy will cause A constitutional crisis.
I should have said he will cause MULTIPLE constitutional crises, right?
Two impeachments, unending skirts of his authority.

I know I told a few people: He will end up issuing illegal orders to the military.

And at the end he was floating ideas to have the military seize election machinery and had Flynn telling him the military could re-run elections in seven states. Its a wonder to me that those things never happened. He had all the flunkies in place to do it. Had them writing memos about it.

It's still a constitutional crises in my opinion because we have not seen if our system of laws can ultimately hold him accountable with a prosecution, conviction, and sentence.

If those three things do not happen. This constitutional set of laws is over.

[betsuni]

79. Not doomed. As always, Republicans screwing everything up and Trump the

perfect white nationalist populist candidate.

But some idiots blamed Democrats. The revolution will happen, etc. Trump made the election all about white people (not poor, Trump voters had higher income than average but not college educated, poor people vote for Democrats) but this moron said: "I come from the white working class and I am deeply humiliated that the Democratic Party cannot talk to where I came from." Not helping. Idiot.

[struggle4progress]

80. ... pray that I won't melt away and I'll see your face again ...

[róisín_dubh]

81. I'm a historian of Latin America...

We have a tendency to identify authoritarian behavior before it becomes evident.
I thank the gods my British visa renewal was approved. Not a popular opinion here, but I can’t wait to leave.

[Kaleva]

82. Your definition of being "doomed" appears to be a slight decline in economic status

Your comment:

"I did, I started putting more money in my savings account the day after he was elected"

How does that protect you from destruction?


"doom
. Inevitable destruction or ruin:"

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/doomed

[kentuck]

84. Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,

Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat;
But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
When two strong men stand face to face though they come from the ends of the earth!

Rudyard Kipling