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As you grow old, you should not have to worry about (Original Post) Uncle Joe Feb 2022 OP
He is so right on all of it wendyb-NC Feb 2022 #1
We won't get the things we need, want, or deserve as long as we allow the legal bribery Dustlawyer Feb 2022 #30
I agree on all counts Dustlawyer, Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #32
Yep. Artistree22 Feb 2022 #35
K & R - nt Ohio Joe Feb 2022 #2
On the day I retired, my insurance premium went UP $145 a month while the coverage went DOWN. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2022 #3
Drop Obamacare after you retire? Nt USALiberal Feb 2022 #8
Yeah, you do not have a choice. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2022 #21
Ok, thanks, I did not know that!! USALiberal Feb 2022 #23
Especially after Biden passed measures to reduce premiums & co-pays. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2022 #24
Yeah, it sucks that WHEN you finally get to retire, your insurance goes up. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2022 #25
We were so ignorant, under the impression that Medicare would be a great deal, Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2022 #36
Thank you very much Ferrets are Cool Feb 2022 #37
How about health care in general, for one's whole life dickthegrouch Feb 2022 #4
You should sign up DownriverDem Feb 2022 #9
Thankfully I'm still in the 6 month window. dickthegrouch Feb 2022 #11
I think there is a provision Tickle Feb 2022 #29
What with him that he doesn't mention the Democratic Party in this? Hortensis Feb 2022 #5
Liz Warren and Bernie addressed it best: The system is rigged against families. Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #6
I don't agree with Bernie.... SergeStorms Feb 2022 #7
Same here, my friend. calimary Feb 2022 #12
Kick & recommend. I can afford these things. bronxiteforever Feb 2022 #10
Got cost of living raise for SSI of $78 orangecrush Feb 2022 #13
And Medicare Traildogbob Feb 2022 #15
I hate the I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #19
Agree 100% orangecrush Feb 2022 #22
There he goes again running off his mouth and Emile Feb 2022 #14
As I grow old, the only thing I worry about is.......... DFW Feb 2022 #16
If you find the fountain of youth let me know where it is. Emile Feb 2022 #26
Ponce hasn't gotten back to me. DFW Feb 2022 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Emile Feb 2022 #27
K&R Hiawatha Pete Feb 2022 #17
Dental, eyeglasses and hearing aids aren't covered in B.C., either. OnlinePoker Feb 2022 #18
Same in Australia. Aussie105 Feb 2022 #20
Having health insurance that takes care of everything but your dental issues is in2herbs Feb 2022 #28
Love Bernie! zentrum Feb 2022 #31
All so very true, Uncle Joe. hippywife Feb 2022 #34

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
30. We won't get the things we need, want, or deserve as long as we allow the legal bribery
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:08 PM
Feb 2022

of our Representatives. It is a root cause of most of our problems.

The other root cause is the propaganda spewed by the media at the behest of the Big Advertisers (Donors) to manipulate the public to doing what they want. They generally use it to blame minorities, immigrants, the poor, disabled, and the elderly for the lack of money/programs caused by their looting of our treasury and tax loopholes.

We need everyone to join together to push these two root causes to the front burner and demand they be the issues we fight for. Without these changes we will continue to spiral down.

Uncle Joe

(58,361 posts)
32. I agree on all counts Dustlawyer,
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 02:29 PM
Feb 2022

those are carcinogenic dysfunctions for any well functioning society; that's cares about its' people as a whole.

Just follow the money and you will find many would be, great policies buried along the trail.





Artistree22

(40 posts)
35. Yep.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:30 PM
Feb 2022

I couldn't agree more. Let's repeat this far and wide and start the momentum to overturn Citizens United and maybe reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.
I would like to see money out of politics or at least require networks to have to provide a certain amount of time for debates and interviews with candidates and outlaw political commercials all together. The obscene amount of money that has to be raised to get a message out is ridiculous and it's sickening that it goes mostly to these horrible media companies that profit the most from negative politics. Not to mention that the barrage of sound bites and negative adds that don't actually get people to listen to the message anyway. It is the ultimate dumb-ing down of politics (based on fear usually) so people just follow those around them if they participate at all.

love n peace

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
3. On the day I retired, my insurance premium went UP $145 a month while the coverage went DOWN.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 05:34 PM
Feb 2022

I LOVE ObamaCare. I HATE that we must drop it when we retire.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
24. Especially after Biden passed measures to reduce premiums & co-pays.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 08:36 AM
Feb 2022

Just when my husband had the best healthcare plan he'd ever had for a low cost, he turned 65 and was forced to trade Obamacare for Medicare. And he'd already reached his out-of-pocket limit on Obamacare for the year, in July, and had to start all over on Medicare.

The timing was especially bad as a few months prior to his 65th birthday he'd been diagnosed with an extremely aggressive form of prostate cancer. We are in a fight for his life and that change in healthcare coverage has made it even more of a nightmare.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
25. Yeah, it sucks that WHEN you finally get to retire, your insurance goes up.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 09:21 AM
Feb 2022

I am so sorry to hear about your husband. My wife is recovering from stage 4 Lymphoma. I am sending get well wishes your way.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
36. We were so ignorant, under the impression that Medicare would be a great deal,
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 06:02 AM
Feb 2022

actually thinking it would be one consolation to mitigate the difficulties of aging. Unlike me--long, serious case of Lyme, bipolar, etc.-- my husband was never sick. The insurance companies really made out well with him. All those thousands & thousands he paid year after year...

Thanks for the well wishes. Very sorry about your wife's illness. I hope you describing her as "recovering" is a good sign. Best to you both.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
37. Thank you very much
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 11:19 AM
Feb 2022

Yes, her Dr finally used the "R" word, and he is one of those who is very reluctant to do so. She is still getting infusions to help her immune system (thank you Covid), but that $150 a month, out of pocket, is a small price to pay. Sending good thoughts your way.

dickthegrouch

(3,173 posts)
4. How about health care in general, for one's whole life
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 05:39 PM
Feb 2022

I am in a really weird position having turned 65 in December, but I had intended working for a while longer and kept my employer's group coverage. On Jan 15th they laid me off throwing all my careful planning into confusion. Now I'm in limbo between applying for Medicare and group coverage terminated. :grrrrr:
Luckily I got three months of most meds in December. One only lets me have 30 days at a time though. :grrrrrrrrrrrr:
I already know Medicare won't accept COBRA as qualifying coverage, although I can't begin to imagine why not.

What can I do in the interim since Medicare has 60 days to accept me?

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
9. You should sign up
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 06:30 PM
Feb 2022

for Medicare. If you weren't laid off, you should have signed up for Part A (hospital coverage) anyway. There's a penalty later on if you don't sign up. To answer your question, there are insurance companies that have temporary short term insurance. I had to get it once,

dickthegrouch

(3,173 posts)
11. Thankfully I'm still in the 6 month window.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 06:36 PM
Feb 2022

So I have now applied, but I presume I won't actually be covered for at least 26 days (March 1st?).
Thanks I'll see if CoveredCalifornia will take me .

Tickle

(2,520 posts)
29. I think there is a provision
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 10:49 AM
Feb 2022

in access health for that. I thought I read something about while I was enrolling

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. What with him that he doesn't mention the Democratic Party in this?
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 05:56 PM
Feb 2022

We're the only people working to make it happen. We're the only people who CAN make it happen.

No one has to choose between Sanders OR the Democratic Party adding dental benefits to the ACA. And no one should. Like the guy, and also vote for Democrats to make it happen. Choose dental care!

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
7. I don't agree with Bernie....
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 06:22 PM
Feb 2022

on some things, but I agree with everything he said in those tweets.

Gotcha, Bernie lovers!

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
10. Kick & recommend. I can afford these things.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 06:35 PM
Feb 2022

I am lucky. Many older people can’t and the lack of coverage for dental,eye and hearing care for seniors is shameful. Hearing, seeing and eating are essential parts of a human life. Medicare should cover these essential services.

orangecrush

(19,554 posts)
13. Got cost of living raise for SSI of $78
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 06:49 PM
Feb 2022

They then proceeded to cut my SNAP benefits in half.

If you aren't a fetus or military age, rethugs have no use for you.

Traildogbob

(8,739 posts)
15. And Medicare
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 07:00 PM
Feb 2022

Premium went up near $50 to cover Alzheimer’s new drugs. And this was the largest SS COL in many years. Where is that trickle down cash GQP scream About? It will never change until GQP is all dead. And fake Dem Senator's on Pharma and coal payroll. Yet trump is covered for the rest of his useless life. On our dime. That socialism they love.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,470 posts)
19. I hate the
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 07:49 PM
Feb 2022

SSI /food stamps shell game.

I cant remember when I got a real cost of living increase.


Why do I have to struggle
and do without because I'm disabled?

Why should old people have to struggle too?

These shell games are naziesque reminds me of the the lives not worthy of life bullshit..

DFW

(54,378 posts)
16. As I grow old, the only thing I worry about is..........
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 07:10 PM
Feb 2022

AGING!!

if I can manage to handle that, I think I can manage the rest.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
33. Ponce hasn't gotten back to me.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 03:23 PM
Feb 2022

Though this week, I was talking about retirement with someone here. I said I would definitely not be doing my current job in 20 years. He answered that he was pretty sure I would retire in ten years, at age 70. I laughed. Ten years? I’ll be 70 in six weeks! He didn’t believe me until others who have known me for decades confirmed it.

Response to DFW (Reply #16)

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
18. Dental, eyeglasses and hearing aids aren't covered in B.C., either.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 07:40 PM
Feb 2022

Maybe some of the other provinces in Canada cover them, but they're not a part of our basic health care here. As of 2019, 18% of British Columbians don't even have a family doctor (and probably over 20% based on the news in the last couple of years). There is no way BC could afford dental services on top of basic medical with the funding models we have now in the province.

Aussie105

(5,395 posts)
20. Same in Australia.
Thu Feb 3, 2022, 08:15 PM
Feb 2022

Dental, glasses and hearing aids are outside the normal coverage.

And boy, are people working in those fields sure making the most of it! Greedy people!

Pharmaceuticals would be the same if the government didn't have a firm grasp there. And subsidizing medicines.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
28. Having health insurance that takes care of everything but your dental issues is
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 10:46 AM
Feb 2022

throwing money away. Dental issues and the mouth are the gateway to all health issues. If I had to choose I'd choose dental over health insurance every time.

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
34. All so very true, Uncle Joe.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:09 PM
Feb 2022

Long ago this country was sold to the corporatists and we all let it keep on happening. It's got to stop! There's no valid reasons for people to be unable to afford meds when someone else is making money hand over fist on them.

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