Gorsuch - Pence - Federalist Society. I think I'm missing something

[Nittersing]

The Federalist Society said "NO PRESS" for Gorsuch... But there's front row, top-notch production value of Pence.

It seems the Federalist Society wanted that footage, front and center.

Why?

[Crazyleftie]

1. some context please............

[Nittersing]

2. It's kinda been in the news. Nevermind

must just be me.

[MyMission]

6. Pence rebukes Trump: 'I had no right to overturn the election'

The op was questioning why media was allowed for pence but not gorsuch, at a recent federalist society gathering. I thought your question was pertinent. I do wonder why they didn't allow media coverage when gorsuch spoke, but don't really care.

The big news (I assume) is what pence said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/04/pence-2020-election-january-6-00005846

(Snip)
In a speech to the conservative Federalist Society on Friday, former Vice President Mike Pence rebuked his one time boss, Donald Trump, decrying the notion that he could have overturned the election results on the 45th president’s behalf.

“Our Founders were deeply suspicious of consolidated power in the nation’s capital and were rightly concerned with foreign interference if presidential elections were decided in the capital,” Pence said. “But there are those in our party who believe that as the presiding officer over the joint session of Congress, I possessed unilateral authority to reject electoral college votes. And I heard this week, President Trump said I had the right to ‘overturn the election’. President Trump is wrong…I had no right to overturn the election.”


The line constituted some of the most aggressive pushback Pence has offered to date on the question of election certification. And it comes days after Trump attacked Pence, saying he “could have overturned the Election!” as he presided over the Senate after the Capital riots on Jan. 6, 2021.

Pence has maintained that while he remains a supporter of Trumpism, he and Trump do not see “eye to eye” on the events of Jan. 6. He has never wavered from his position that he did not have constitutional authority to do anything more in Congress than certify the 2020 election results.

“Under the Constitution, I had no right to change the outcome of our election. And Kamala Harris will have no right to overturn the election when we beat them in 2024,” he said in his address.

[olegramps]

17. It is extremely important that he chose to address the Federalist Society.

The members of the Federalists are committed to establishing an authoritarian presidency. It is written directly into its charter. It is based on a bizarre interpretation of the Second Article of the Constitution that would provide the president with unlimited power over very federal agency of government.

It totally ignores the most basic fact that the Republic was based on the concept of the separation of powers that forms the bedrock of the government. Pence is in effect directly challenging the Society's most basic reason for its existence. It should be noted that everyone of Trump's candidates for judgeships were members of the Federalist Society and that included the Attorney General, Barr. It appears that Barr got cold feet and divorced himself from association with the extremists. It was a key element of their plan to flood the courts with Federalist Society judges that would provide them with legal justification.

[Butterflylady]

25. Love that last paragraph, when we beat them!

[niyad]

22. Watch Chris Hayes last night on this event. Should be in the video forum.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. Gorsuch just gave a private speech to Federalists. Pence just gave a very public speech to them. .nt

[snowybirdie]

3. Beginning to think the dike is cracking

The Federal Society just might be looking around for another candidate to support. Rtumper is just getting too nuts! Beware, their next flunky will be a lot smarter with less baggage.

[Nittersing]

4. Yeah, that concerns me

They learned a lot with drumph.

A smart guy in there and we're done.

[paleotn]

11. Smarter, less baggage, just as evil.

Few things scare me more.

[wnylib]

12. That's it exactly. Trump is too contaminated with

lawsuits and investigations. Republican organizations and money backers will drop him. His loud supporters in Congress will stay with him, but many Rs will distance themselves from him.

They will be just as RW extremist. Just as fascist. But they don't need or want a violent coup now that they have laws in place to give them "wins."

Their strategy will be to paint Trump as a criminal and Dems as socialists. They will project an image of themselves as moderate.

Our job is to expose the phoniness of the moderate image.

[KPN]

16. THIS.

[uponit7771]

19. Unless they have a video of Putin's Whore eating a live puppy he will always take 5% of every ...

... county with him if they "kick him out" of the party or disown him.

If any of Putin's Whore's positive numbers stay above 20 he'll take those voters with him.

I'm thinking he better watch his back, the only way to end a cult is to end the leader

[sinkingfeeling]

5. I wonder if Gorsuch didn't either tell them what the Court

is about to do for their causes or a planning session for future erosion of democracy.

[Lonestarblue]

9. That Gorsuch even appeared at the Federalist Society should be an ethics issue.

Making a speech in secret to a group that is promoting Christian Nationalism over democratic principles and separation of church and state just shows Gorsuch’s extremist right-wing partisanship. It had to be secret because he may have clues them in about overturning Roe v. Wade and affirmative action, as well as forcing taxpayers in Maine to support a religious school that discriminates against LGBTQ in several ways. They refuse to hire any LGBTQ teacher, refuse to admit any LGBTQ students, and refuse the children of same-sex parents. I don’t know their curriculum, but I suspect students do not learn much about slavery or what they learn is all about its benefits for black people. Science probably includes God’s design as equal to evolution, along with skipping much of the biology of the human body—because sex. These schools may teach the basics,,but they are also indoctrination camps for the religious right that wants to rule the country.

[Midnight Writer]

20. Gorsuch wouldn't be on the Supreme Court if The Federalist Society didn't pick him.

The Federalists gave TFG a list of who they wanted on the Court, and TFG made his picks off of that list.

[Klaralven]

7. Gorsuch is the exception, not Pence

Gorsuch will join former Vice President Mike Pence, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany in speaking to the annual conference of the Federalist Society’s Florida chapters. Gorsuch’s speech is the only part of the program to be closed to the press.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-02/gorsuch-s-speech-to-conservative-group-is-only-one-to-bar-media

[zaj]

15. That's even more bonkers

The one person with an ethical obligation to be overly transparent to avoid the appearance of a conflict.... Hides his speech from everyone but the secretive organization.

[KPN]

18. That alone calls for a Congressional inquiry of some

sort.

[Generic Brad]

8. We could always ask Clarence Thomas

Perhaps he can tell us why they are going to shove DeSantis down our throats.

[paleotn]

10. Those on the right who aren't batshit crazy

want separation from Trump. Particularly now that he's become far more of a liability than he ever was. There's been an interesting conflict in the GQP from the time Trump became the front runner for their nomination in 2016. So strong a conflict that it's thrown some like those in the Lincoln Project completely out of the party. Others bid their time, hoping Donnie Dumbass would destroy himself and hopefully not take the party down with him. I was hoping he would do just that and he just might depending on how deep the 1/6 conspiracy goes.

[wnylib]

14. Spot on. Those Rs who oppose Trump

will project an image of rational moderates. They will be, on reality, far RW and fascist in their policies.

We need to start exposing them now.

[paleotn]

23. Many aren't moderate at all. They're just not fascist.

Most of them believe in democracy and rule of law as we do, but our "friendship" ends exactly there. We need to remember that the enemy of our enemy is our friend only where our interests coincide and not beyond. I appreciate what Rick Wilson has done in our mutual fight against the fascists, but other than that, he is no friend of Democrats, progressive or not. What he did to Max Cleland is unforgivable. He may not be a totalitarian, but he's certainly NOT my political friend.

[wnylib]

30. Agree. But these are the people who created a

political atmosphere that made Trump possible.

[paleotn]

33. Yep. And some don't really mind mild, quiet fascism.

Just not the brand Trump is selling.

[Joinfortmill]

31. And we should never forget it.

When I refer to Liz Cheney as our "Iron Lady", I mean it in all its connotations.

[wnylib]

35. She makes Bismarck look like a leftist.

[hydrolastic]

26. This !

There is a republican in my family that votes democrat now not because she is a democrat but because she "Does not have a party" in her words. IMO Trump already has destroyed the R party no way to go back to bi partisan politics. This is a mistake on Bidens part I think. There will be a new party for conservatives soon.

[ancianita]

13. Why? Self promotion with corporate media to cover for their Right wing taint.

[spanone]

21. I noticed that there was zero reaction from the crowd when pence said 'trump is wrong'

Found that somewhat odd.

[Evolve Dammit]

36. It must be deemed dangerous to even express anti-45 sentiments? Wow. Lock-step or you're done.

[Hugin]

24. Since they think they may pick up seats in 2022...

Elections need to matter again.

What the GrOPper higher ups wanted in 2020, they got. Rid of Trump. Now, it is back to business as usual.

[Tommymac]

27. The ENTIRE Republican Party is a treasonous entity and needs to be destroyed.

That is the bottom line.

Until it is it's uncountable slimy tentacles like the Federalist Society are going to continue to try and destroy Democracy under it's umbrella of 'respectability'.

[Joinfortmill]

29. Very interesting - me thinks something big is about to drop

[Baitball Blogger]

32. I believe some taping will surface at some point about his speech.

[PatrickforB]

34. Pence seems to have been telling them what needed to be 'taken care of'

by the courts before a VP would actually be able to reverse the electors.

[choie]

37. Gorsuch probably demanded

that there be no press allowed. He doesn't want us to know he's a partisan anti-democratic asshole.

[lostnfound]

38. He will be relieved to learn

He will be relieved to learn that we already know he’s a partisan anti-democratic asshole.