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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:06 PM Feb 2022

I am waiting, hoping for, the FBI to conduct multiple raids at once.

Raids on the homes, offices of the leaders of the coup. That would be a wonderful way for Garland to announce, yes we are investigating the top ring leaders.

In my opinion, there is more than enough evidence to start going after the top ring leaders of the coup. Confiscate their phones, computers, etc. Just like they did with Rudy recently.

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I am waiting, hoping for, the FBI to conduct multiple raids at once. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Feb 2022 OP
Getting a little late for that, it's been over a year. dem4decades Feb 2022 #1
Huh? fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #3
What dem4decades Feb 2022 #4
Really? There's a lot of guys currently in prison who'd disagree. paleotn Feb 2022 #5
Which leaders of the coup are in prison? gab13by13 Feb 2022 #8
You did not. Dear god. paleotn Feb 2022 #9
The thread is about arresting leaders of the coup. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #13
Ugh. Just ugh. paleotn Feb 2022 #16
Yes they have had plenty of time to destroy evidence. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #11
A year listening to phones, capturing communications, gathering evidence, timing seems perfect. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #19
YWTS pnloyd Feb 2022 #24
Just like a kid on Beachnutt Feb 2022 #2
I'm afraid you are hoping in vain Doc Sportello Feb 2022 #6
Is Goldman part of the investigation? fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #7
Just a question, a polite question, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #10
Except he has a lot more credibility Doc Sportello Feb 2022 #14
I knew you were going to say that before you posted it. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #18
The truth is depressing, and that's the problem. dem4decades Feb 2022 #25
I knew you were going to say that too Doc Sportello Feb 2022 #26
Assuming facts not in evidence... WarGamer Feb 2022 #12
There is already documented evidence out there. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #15
The attack on the capital is just a small piece of the evidence proving a large conspiracy. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #17
Just posted a thread with 31 tweets about this by capitolhunters: L. Coyote Feb 2022 #20
Thank you. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #21
that Twitter thread reads like Stone's "JFK Movie" WarGamer Feb 2022 #22
Goldman's most recent tweet regarding this: Grasswire2 Feb 2022 #23

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
9. You did not. Dear god.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:57 PM
Feb 2022

I'm not talking about leaders of the recent freaking coup. Other criminals who were raided years after their crimes. Jebus!

gab13by13

(21,299 posts)
13. The thread is about arresting leaders of the coup.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:33 PM
Feb 2022

DOJ has done a good job arresting people involved in the riot past of the coup, no one is arguing that.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. A year listening to phones, capturing communications, gathering evidence, timing seems perfect.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:55 PM
Feb 2022

By now the evidence should be adequate.

Doc Sportello

(7,506 posts)
6. I'm afraid you are hoping in vain
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:32 PM
Feb 2022

Daniel Goldman said on Nicole Wallace's show yesterday that if the Jan 6 committee is offering immunity for testimony that means the DOJ isn't investigating toward future prosecutions. Compared it to the Oliver North case where his testimony prevented a criminal prosecution.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
7. Is Goldman part of the investigation?
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:43 PM
Feb 2022

NO he is not. Does he know what the committee, DOJ are doing? NO he does not. He is offering his opinion, that is all. I think he is wrong, that is my opinion.

gab13by13

(21,299 posts)
10. Just a question, a polite question,
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:03 PM
Feb 2022

you know these threads will pit the pro DOJ people v the anti-DOJ people, right, by pro-DOJ I mean when will it create a special grand jury?


Goldman makes an excellent point. Let's look at Jeffrey Clarke who a member of the select committee said it is considering offering Clarke immunity. There is all kinds of concrete evidence out there, including documents that warrant Clarke be investigated for crimes. If the select committee offers him immunity for his testimony, isn't that common sense that would be stepping on DOJ's prosecution of Clarke? We wouldn't need Goldman to figure that one out. Also, it is common sense that the members of the select committee would not offer anyone immunity without first checking with DOJ. The select committee hasn't offered anyone immunity yet so it is a moot point.

Doc Sportello

(7,506 posts)
14. Except he has a lot more credibility
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:34 PM
Feb 2022

Than you do because of his experience. That's why he was on the show.

He was majority counsel in the first impeachment inquiry against dump and was an assistant United States attorney in Southern District of New York under Preet Bharara. His opinion is based on his experience and what is already out in the open and what has happened in the past such as the North case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_S._Goldman

In addition to Goldman's insight, you can look at the history of this country in allowing numerous crimes committed by top leaders, especially repubs. I wish that wasn't so but it is. I wish Garland would prosecute the ringleaders but don't think it will happen. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable, but I am willing to face reality.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
18. I knew you were going to say that before you posted it.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:48 PM
Feb 2022

I have watched Goldman be interviewed many times before. He usually gives a worst case view of things. He is kind of depressing.

Doc Sportello

(7,506 posts)
26. I knew you were going to say that too
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 09:09 PM
Feb 2022

Your take of "worst case scenario" is just someone who knows more than you giving you some insight you don't like hearing. Like I said, I face reality.

WarGamer

(12,428 posts)
12. Assuming facts not in evidence...
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:12 PM
Feb 2022

The FBI has previously said the attack on the Capital was largely spontaneous and the greatest conspiracy they can find is between a handful of 3%'ers or PB's...

If you're expecting text messages from Jim Jordan or Rudy G directing attackers to this door and that door with orders to do whatever inside the Capitol... that's just fantasy.

gab13by13

(21,299 posts)
15. There is already documented evidence out there.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:35 PM
Feb 2022

They planned on overturning the election in November.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
17. The attack on the capital is just a small piece of the evidence proving a large conspiracy.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:43 PM
Feb 2022

The attack on the capital was not spontaneous. It was planned and the oath keepers, proud boys led the way. The larger crowd who joined in, the pawns, that was spontaneous.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
20. Just posted a thread with 31 tweets about this by capitolhunters:
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 01:57 PM
Feb 2022
"Jan 6 Capitol attack ... was green-lit late, on the night of Dec. 18"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216323093
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