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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsQuestion about debt with China.
Exactly who has been building up that debt with China? Is it private sector or public sector?
I have to believe it was private sector.
If it's public sector, would raising taxes on the rich helped reduced the dependence on borrowing from China?
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)The total amount of public debt is not connected to who owns that debt. China owns much of it because Americans by far more stuff from China than the Chinese but from us. If they arent buying stuff from us then they have to do something with all those dollars.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)They use the dollar trade surplus with the US to buy food and raw materials, e.g. iron ore from Brazil, cobalt from Congo, etc.
Since the dollar is an international trade currency, it is easy for them to use the surplus this way. China's holdings of US treasuries have been stable for the last 10 years.
Between the Asian Financial Crisis and 2010, a number of countries built up US dollar reserves to protect themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis#Asia
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Assume they still do
paleotn
(17,911 posts)that dependency isn't in itself a bad thing, though I wish we were sitting on a lot more Chinese Yuan, not knowing what to do with it all. Two things in my mind have limited hot wars regionally and globally in the last 50+ years...nuclear weapons and economic interdependency. Nation states don't tend to blow up their customers or suppliers. Usually, anyway.
Irish_Dem
(46,880 posts)And box us in.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)I remember the late 80's early 90's very well.
Irish_Dem
(46,880 posts)It will happen quite soon.
Japan and China are vastly different on many levels.
The US is in denial about what is going to happen.
former9thward
(31,970 posts)The Five countries that own the most U.S. debt are 1) Japan, 2) China, 3) UK, 4) Ireland and 5) Luxembourg. China owns just over one trillion of our Treasuries (as of a couple years ago).
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5-countries-own-most-us-debt.asp
roamer65
(36,745 posts)They would simply buy it off the world markets if the Chinese decide to dump it.
Elliot Waves
(68 posts)Just to put into perspective how much one trillion dollars is.
If you spend $1Million every single day starting on day one of our calendar (the day Christ is suppose to have been born), all the way to today. You will still need to continue spending $1Million dollars every day for more than seven hundred more years before you will have spent $1Trillion.
How much is our debt again? Just some food for thought...