OMGAWD Camilla is going to be Queen!!!!!

[a kennedy]

Britain's Queen Elizabeth II has used the historic milestone of her Platinum Jubilee to redefine the future of the monarchy, calling for the Duchess of Cornwall to be known as Queen Camilla when Charles becomes King.

When Charles married Camilla in 2005, the couple announced she intended to be known as "Princess Consort" despite having a right to the title of Queen. It was seen as a recognition of the sensitivities around a title that was destined for Charles' first wife, Diana.
It's the same reason Camilla doesn't use the title of Princess of Wales.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/05/uk/queen-elizabeth-ii-platinum-jubilee-accession-day-gbr-intl/index.html

[NurseJackie]

1. No.

Ugh.

[Dorian Gray]

43. Why not?

out of curiosity.

[pnwmom]

92. Maybe because she let Prince Charles marry the 19 year old virgin, Diana,

knowing that the she and Charles would just continue their adulterous relationship on the side.

Somebody should have warned Diana that her marriage was just for show.

(I'm glad Prince Harry escaped The Firm.)

[Dorian Gray]

93. I agree that the British Royal Family

is toxic. I agree that I don't blame Harry and Meghan for leaving.

I have no problem with Camilla being Queen. She's somewhat popular. I mean, they have a prince who was besties with Epstein and Maxwell. And old racist Princess Michael of Kent. Camilla is the least of their problems, these days. And it never would have happened if the BRF didn't insist Charles marry a "virgin." I think society holding her virginity up as a positive quality is a huge problem in the first place. (JMHO, of course.)

Diana was screwed over. I wish she had more agency and refused to marry into that toxic stew.

So I guess my biggest support for Camilla being queen is that the whole crew kind of sucks, and she's not nearly as toxic as many of the others....

[pnwmom]

98. I see what you're saying, and that's probably true for most of the British public.

Not for the sons, though. Most people in their position wouldn't love seeing the person who helped make their mother's life miserable being honored in that way.

[canetoad]

2. I don't have a problem with that

She will be the King's wife.

[AnnetteChaffee]

32. I agree

It was a horrible thing that happened and of course, everyone loved and misses Diana, but love is love and Charles clearly loves Camilla. She is his wife, and if he is King, she should be Queen.

Before we know it, it will be William and Kate - Who I believe will be wonderful in their roles.

Annette

[HipChick]

76. UK already in a crisis with Boris as PM

What next Camilla as Queen? Stiff upper lip and all that...they will be fine

[madaboutharry]

3. That is going to be a hard sell.

The impression seems to be she is barely tolerated.

[BlackSkimmer]

27. Not at all.

Her approval rating in the UK is higher than many other royals.

[madaboutharry]

30. Ok, I stand corrected.

However, the bar is low.

[BlackSkimmer]

33. Why do you consider the bar low?

The Queen is hugely loved. She’s number 1. Followed by William, Catherine, Prince Phillip, and Anne.

What have they ever done to set the bar low?

[madaboutharry]

35. I was talking about Andrew.

I should have been clearer in my sarcasm. My favorite royal has always been Harry, I’m not sure that counts anymore.

[Ms. Toad]

4. Technically Queen Consort. n/t

[LakeArenal]

5. Ugh.

[Meowmee]

6. As a subject of the queen

I guess that means Camilla will be my Queen/ Queen consort or whatever 😹 Assuming I am still alive by then.

[canetoad]

9. She has a couple

Of rescue Jack Russells. That makes her OK by me.

[Meowmee]

11. Great, good for her 😀

[Cha]

87. I just realized my son-in-law

who is Australian, is also a subject of the Queen of England.

I know.. slow.. I just never thought of it that way before. A subject in the former colonies.

[Meowmee]

88. Yes I am Canadian dual with US

And my mother was Scottish so if I wanted to I can get Scottish GB citizenship too.

[Cha]

89. How Cool is that! I love

Canada and Scotland.

[Meowmee]

90. Yes beautiful places

We spent a lot of time there but not recently. I went on a trip to Skye and elswhere years ago in the summer it was perfect because it stays light until at least 10 PM at night and I’m nocturnal. They actually had a heat wave and I got sun poisoning while I was outside painting lol.

[Cha]

91. Ouch! But what a unique

experience.. Lucky You!

[Renew Deal]

97. Assuming Charles is too.

Charles is 73. It seems the current queen is trying to outlive him.

[Meowmee]

99. Yes she is going to live a long time I think

But he is younger.

[JI7]

7. Why wouldn't or shouldn't she be if her husband becomes King ?

[gldstwmn]

81. Charles and Camila were adults who drew a teenage

girl into their stupid game. They went on about her lives but she paid with hers.

[MOMFUDSKI]

8. Just

fuck all those inbreds anyway.

[NCjack]

34. +1

[qazplm135]

10. I mean on a scale of 0 to Andrew...

Camilla is a lot closer to 0 on the scandal scale.

[dem4decades]

12. I wonder if Charles told Camilla she might be Queen when he was on his honeymoon with Diana?

[Etherealoc1]

19. ...and yet Meghan was treated terribly

(updated)

I guess infidelity is rewarded

with a freakin crown.

[lapucelle]

31. She didn't lose her titles. N/T

[Crunchy Frog]

40. She's still the Duchess of Sussex.

[Dorian Gray]

44. I mean

She and Harry left England. They didn't kick them out. (And I like them. )

[obamanut2012]

86. Disinformation -- she didn't lose her titles

[maxsolomon]

13. Haha, I love it.

Why not? Camilla is his wife; the wife of the King is the Queen. Oh, it's going to be a fun 10 years or so when the old girl passes.

I don't see Charles' reign going much past 2035. He's 73 already.

[BlackSkimmer]

26. Who knows?

She may outlive him.

[kskiska]

50. Both his parents and his grandmother lived (or are living) to be close to 100.

He's got longevity on his side, though Princess Margaret died at 71. Who knows?

[canetoad]

51. Both Margaret

And ER's father were smokers. I know George VI died of lung cancer at an early age. Not sure about Margaret - a stroke I think.

[Demsrule86]

14. Who cares?

[BGBD]

16. My thoughts exactly.

Who cares?

[Demsrule86]

62. I know right?

[PJMcK]

21. Exactly (n/t)

[Demsrule86]

64. It must be the Irish in me...my family fought to throw off the shackles of their

British rulers for generations...those who were not hanged emigrated. My Grandfather came over in the 20's on the run...he was about to be hanged. Good Queen Victoria wrote about how she hoped the potato famine would kill the native Irish and God-fearing Englishman would take their place....so many people starved during the potato famine. And how many Irish were thrown off their farms for sheep and other reasons? A million people died during the famine years it is estimated and Victoria is known by many as the "Famine Queen"

Also, she presided over the British empire...a blood-soaked empire it was too. I have no use for any of them...past or present. It seems to me that the royal family costs the nation too much money and is of little use...and considering Prince Andrew's behavior can still cause great harm to others.

[GoCubsGo]

29. Yeah, I never understood the fascination with these people.

In this country, anyway.

[Demsrule86]

65. I don't either.

[tenderfoot]

37. I don't get it either.

Most of my British friends feel the same way.

[Demsrule86]

61. I consider the Queen and all the other crap to be useless...and look at Andrew, he is a monster.

[treestar]

53. Those interested in British history

who don't have to be British.

Though they don't have much power, they are part of the line. Descended from William the Conqueror.

Their ancestors were more interesting, having to actually rule the Kingdom. A lot happened on the way. But if you are interested in the history, it is interesting to see how Camilla could be Queen (Anne Boleyn was - why not Camilla? )

[Demsrule86]

60. I have studied history extensively...and I find nothing to admire in British Royalty...

I just don't.

[treestar]

72. Any of them?

Even from the past?

Though you don't have to admire them to be interested in them. I don't admire Edward II, but he's interesting.

[Demsrule86]

74. I was interested which is why I read about them...mostly blood thirsty murderers if you ask me

And the empire wasn't so great for those unfortunate countries that were used for their resources and such...don't get me started on Ireland where they made it so they could hold Irish suspects without a trial or evidence...I read about the potato famine too where they did nothing much to help...no I do not admire the monarchy. And look at Andrew still using his connections to evade I guess one would call it rape and or molestation of underage girls...some of whom may have been held against their will.

[Emile]

63. Not me, hell I'm an American!

[Demsrule86]

66. Yep, that is it...we should thank our lucky stars, were able to break free...how much treasure

was stolen by the British government over the years? For example, some priceless Egyptian objects are still in British hands to this day. And they gave us Boris Johnson most recently. I expect they will rue the day this guy took office in the end.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

95. Yeh, so sick of seeing headlines about these irrelevant vestiges of the Imperial

English Reich.

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[Solly Mack]

15. I think the UK will survive it.

[3Hotdogs]

17. Inquiring minds want to know:

Does Charles still want to be reincarnated as Camilla'a tampon.?

[tanyev]

18. I don't care one way or the other, but it does seem odd that the female spouse of a male monarch

can be Queen Consort but England has never had a King Consort--as far as I'm aware.

[flor-de-jasmim]

22. Queen Eliz' husband was Prince Consort.

[BlackSkimmer]

24. So was Queen Victoria's husband.

Also Prince Consort.

[muriel_volestrangler]

36. No, he wasn't

As noted below, Victoria's husband Albert was Prince Consort, but they didn't reuse that title for Philip. Both of them were princes of other entities, before they married (Philip of Greece, Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha!).

[canetoad]

28. That may change from now on

Up until a few years ago, females were shunted down the line of succession in favour of their brother/s, the understanding being that you only had a queen if there wasn't a king handy.

Therefore I think the understanding was that a king 'outranks' a queen although they may both be monarchs. Now that females retain their birth place in the line, the question is moot.

[treestar]

54. That might be in the future

Old fashioned sexism meant that a male spouse of a Queen Regnant could not be called a King, since a King must be the ruler.

But now that they have changed the rules that women will not lose their place to a younger brother, they might also consider calling a female ruler's husband King Consort! It will be interesting, though we may not see it in our lifetime. Little George will outlive most of us.

There is a female heir to the throne of Belgium, I believe, who has a younger brother, but will be Queen under the new rules. So what will they call her husband.

[underpants]

20. I thought Charles was going to be passed over for William to take the crown

Okay I guess not.

BTW - the cost to the subjects is roughly $1 per year for the royals.

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. No, no-one has suggested that outside the more fevered parts of the internet

It keeps being wished for on DU, but it goes against the fundamental way the English, Scottish and British monarchies have been run. It takes rebellions (against Mary Queen of Scots, or against James VII/II) for that kind of thing to happen, or an abdication. Even then, the person first in line has had some time as monarch before getting booted/resigning.

[underpants]

59. Okay that makes sense.

Charles gets to be King for a period of time and then hands it over to William.

[11 Bravo]

23. Their monarchy, their rules.

This constitutes no change from the last half dozen or so centuries of British line of succession.

[BlackSkimmer]

25. Queen Consort. nt

[FakeNoose]

39. She doesn't have children with Charles, so the next in line after Charles

... will be William, and his wife (formerly Kate Middleton) will also have the title of Queen.

Now that Wills and Kate have 3 children, those kids have all stepped in line ahead of Harry, so he'll probably never be King. Just as well.

[treestar]

55. Given modern medicine and the lack of battles with swords and poleax

It was probably clear that Harry would never be King.

Even marrying a divorced woman no longer gets in the way (see Edward VIII).

[Lunabell]

41. I think that enough time has passed since Diana's death and the debacle of her marriage

that Fred and Gladys should be officially recognized. It was a very different time back when Diana and Charles married. Other than his sons, I bet he really regrets his decision to marry Diana. The Dutchess is the real love of his life.

[iemanja]

42. I thought Charles was cut out of the line of succession?

And that it was supposed to go to Diana's eldest? I forget his name.

[FakeNoose]

67. Well no, the speculation was that Queen Elizabeth would abdicate

... in favor of her son Charles. That means she would "retire" and let her son be King while she's still living. But that never happened and now Charles has become an old man of 73, waiting for Mums to die. When she goes Charles will be King for however long he lives, and Camilla will have the title of Queen. After Charles dies, his first son William (the older child of Charles and Diana) will be King and Kate will be Queen. The royalty line passes to their 3 children who are still very young. Prince Harry knows he'll never be King so all this royalty bullshit became too much for him. He and Meghan have opted out and that's why they moved here.

[hamsterjill]

45. Whatever, I guess.

There is a part of me that doesn’t like that Camilla is in Diana’s place after Camilla and Charles kept seeing one another after he married Diana. I think that was slimey behavior from both of them. I know Diana wasn’t faithful either but that was after she knew about Charles’ infidelity. If he had been honest, Diana might very well be alive and be Queen (whatever the correct title is). Or they might never have married at all. Who knows. It was a tragedy in many ways.

That said, it’s the Queen’s call. I have no stake in it.

[dmr]

56. It was slimey behavior by both Camilla and Charles.

I understand they both love each other, and it was sad for them both that Charles had to marry Dianna.

Dianna was a young, immature victim in all this.

Camilla knew Charles made his decision to marry another woman. Camilla should have bowed out, and centered her life around her own husband and children. Instead she continuously called on Charles, and she took his calls.

I have no respect for either one of them. Dianna had no chance to find happiness in her marriage.

We don't know if their marriage would have worked, but with Camilla butting in, it sure didn't help them.

[CTyankee]

68. I AGREE 100%!

Poor Diana. I nearly cried when I heard her say "There were three of us in our marriage and it was getting a bit crowded" and I thought how beautiful she was and how Camilla was a horse faced tramp.

[mnhtnbb]

71. Me, too.

Charles was so indiscreet. And crass. Remember the intercepted phone call when he told Camilla he wished he were one of her tampons?

Eeww. No class at all. He didn't deserve Diana. And his adulteress girlfriend turned wife does not deserve to be Queen, unless maybe she's known as the Tampon Queen.

[CTyankee]

75. Why do you think the queen did it? Was she forced to, by royal tradition (which is such a joke)?

[mnhtnbb]

77. I think the Queen is making the same mistake

she did when Diana died. Elizabeth II did not understand how much Diana was loved and to what extent she was ill treated by Charles.

My guess is that this decision will backfire. It won't help the monarchy to reward Camilla with the position that was rightfully Diana's.

[CTyankee]

85. She should have better advisors around her. BUT

she's the Queen of England, so that's that!

[gldstwmn]

82. +1000

[Lucinda]

46. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

good

[Dawson Leery]

47. Australia, Jamaica, and New Zealand are leaving when Liz goes.

Fully understandable.

[Poiuyt]

48. This is assuming that Charles outlives Elizabeth

The way she's going, we have King William next.

[cinematicdiversions]

49. Do we really think Charles is going to outlive his mum? NT

[treestar]

52. That is good, they should join the modern world

Diana and Charles were divorced. She was no longer going to be Queen because of that. It's sad she died, but that was not what ended the marriage. They were divorced.

[Trueblue1968]

57. oh barf. wasn't camilla's nickname "the rotweiller" ...????

[Mz Pip]

58. Whatever

Not my country. They can call her Bozo the Clown for all I care.

[cadoman]

69. in these unsteady times, it does calm a subjects mind to know this

Long live the Queen!

[yellowcanine]

70. Rat's ass not being given here.

Sounds as if she is trying to deflect from Boris the boorish.

[Generic Brad]

73. That will look good on her resume

[Submariner]

78. This must be her reward for surviving the Camillagate tapes train wreck

I'd probably be too embarrassed to go out in public again, never mind being crowned king and queen consort in front of the world.

[Mr.Bill]

79. All I know is that Charles and Diana

were married on my birthday and named their first child after me. Probably just coincidence, though.

[gldstwmn]

80. People would have lost their minds if she was Princess of Wales. That would have been disrespectful

AF. Camila won't be queen, she will be queen consort. It's kind of like queen*.

[Donkees]

83. Queen for a Day, they'll give her some appliances and send her home

[a kennedy]

84. 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣

[GoodRaisin]

94. Maybe by the time Camilla's 90.

[Vinca]

96. They should just skip a generation and install Will and Kate.