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NEW ALBANY, INDefending his comment that a woman becoming pregnant from rape is something God intended, Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock dug himself into an even deeper hole today when he argued that, if you really stop to think about it, the Virgin Mary was basically raped by God.
Mary certainly didnt ask for God to impregnate her with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, but obviously the Immaculate Conception, while not the result of a consensual act, was still a part of Gods planyou see what Im getting at, right? said the 61-year-old man who currently serves as the state treasurer of Indiana.
Of course I dont condone sexual assault. Im just saying that sometimes when a woman is violated and impregnated against her will, its actually a really good thing in the end, because Gods rape of Mary gave us Jesus, and Jesus saved mankind from sin. So thats one example right there. At press time, multiple male Senate candidates in their 60s remained divided between those who believe pregnancies resulting from rape are biologically impossible and those who believe they are the divine will of God.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/mother-mary-was-essentially-raped-mourdock-says-wh,30083/
The Onion is gonna go to hell with that one
LOL
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Terrifying.
"At press time, multiple male Senate candidates in their 60s remained divided between those who believe pregnancies resulting from rape are biologically impossible and those who believe they are the divine will of God."
Fact.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)God didn't actually ask permission, nor did he respect Joseph's claim on Mary. That's rape and adultery, and if you then add to it Mary's age, it's also statutory rape.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)and a lot of other deities having their way
with 'the women'... even the sons of gods in the bible were doing it.
I rather think it was ancient aliens...LOL
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)the Onion's version of Mourdock and not be disgusted with the Bible that continues the ancient acceptability of rape, statutory rape, and adultery by their god(s).
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)crunch60
(1,412 posts)Analogue paradox to the 'liar paradox' formulated by English logician, philosopher and mathematician Bertrand Russell.
In a village, the barber shaves everyone who does not shave himself/herself, but no one else.
Who shaves the barber?
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)
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meow2u3
(24,745 posts)Even though it's an Onion story, I wouldn't put it past Mourdock to come out with an outrageous statement like that.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)serious newspaper.
Arkansas Granny
(31,483 posts)hvn_nbr_2
(6,481 posts)A society is officially insane when its leaders cannot be satirized because they are crazier than any satirist can imagine. Call it "hvn_nbr_2's Law."
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)... I have to look at the link to determine if a quote from a Republican politician is actually an Onion article.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)But I was afraid of the backlash.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... stop digging.
What a fools.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)That includes members of the Christian Right themselvesif they could stop talking about me entirely, that would be preferable, God added. In the end, probably best if we just completely went our separate ways here.
That's awesome.
liberalmuse
(18,670 posts)I can't believe I'm living in the 21st f*cking century anymore.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)That helps me. I don't know if it helps anyone else.
liberalmuse
(18,670 posts)Positive viewpoints are ALWAYS encouraged these days.
txdemsftw
(461 posts)I don't know who is nuttier anymore.
Very disturbing that people actually believe this shit.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)Century
crunch60
(1,412 posts)they wish to become God like..
Bucky
(53,795 posts)crunch60
(1,412 posts)body would prevent it. (Another idiot with a $1.00 haircut)
Berlum
(7,044 posts)For their ugly, stoopid, and evil ideas...
Wednesdays
(17,249 posts)In his final years.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,011 posts)irony is so hard these days.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I so fully believe Mourdock could 'go there", that it never crossed my mind that this was the Onion until I got to the link and hit it to read some more.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)"If I have to listen to one more grey-faced man with a $2 haircut explain to me what rape is, she warned, Im going to lose my mind!
?4372
She's right about the haircut, what about the dye job?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tina-fey-blasts-gop-rape-richard-mourdock-todd-akin-383108
cherish44
(2,566 posts)That's how outrageous some of these right wingers are
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Unreal.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)I've won a lot of bets with people who don't believe me on that.
hoboken123
(251 posts)You can even ask Christians and they normally get it wrong.
I guess that means it's brilliant satire?
forestpath
(3,102 posts)they were right. And I do think the Onion is brilliant but since almost everyone gets the Immaculate Conception wrong, they probably didn't know the correct definition either!
hoboken123
(251 posts)I know it, you know it,...
Ezlivin
(8,153 posts)He just destroyed a central tenet of Christian faith.
txdemsftw
(461 posts)I thought it was real too....
That's the sad part.
Pisces
(5,592 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)It's wicked funny, IMHO
exboyfil
(17,857 posts)teach that God did physically visit Mary and had sex with her.
Orson Pratt taught:
"[God] had a lawful right to overshadow the Virgin Mary in the capacity of a husband, and beget a Son , ...it may be that ... He intended after the resurrection to again take her as one of his own wives to raise up immortal spirits (bear his children) in eternity." ('The Seer, p. 158)
Brigham Young:
"The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood--was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, volume 8, p. 115)
In this manual Joseph F. Smith is quoted under the heading, "A MODERN PROPHET'S ANSWER":
"Now we are told in Scriptures that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God in the flesh. Well, now for the benefit of the older ones, how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father... We must come down to the simple fact that God Almighty was the Father of His Son Jesus Christ. Mary, the virgin girl, who had never known mortal man, was his mother. God by her begot His son Jesus Christ. And he was born into the world with power and intelligence like that of his Father."
Taken from http://www.mormonwiki.org/Conception_of_Jesus
I think they have walked back from these thoughts, but it is interesting in light of the discussion. I particularly like Pratt's statement that God had every right to "rape" Mary being that he is God. Got to love the Old Testament feel of that sentiment. Just like God had to right to wipe out all but a sliver of humanity and animals or that he could order his "chosen" people to commit genocide including "bludgeoning babies".
libodem
(19,288 posts)The Onion rocks! More truth than fiction and it's funny to boot.
lyingsackofmitt
(105 posts)the whole religion started with a rape!
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)The religion started off with a virgin birth. I don't remember rape from the gospels.
lyingsackofmitt
(105 posts)when you write about them hundreds of years after they occur. That is if they occurred at all, which I doubt.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Rozlee
(2,529 posts)And I hope you visit and join our atheist forum. You'll love it!
aquart
(69,014 posts)Gabriel is associated with the moon. Mary missed her monthly.
liberalmuse
(18,670 posts)It's always nice to have fresh blood, and I mean this in the best possible sense.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Lots of posters like you here.
Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)tjwash
(8,219 posts)Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:18 PM - Edit history (1)
The fact that I didn't put it past mourdock saying that shows what genius it is.
Hamlette
(15,394 posts)and of course it is, but alas, he didn't say it.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)montanto
(2,966 posts)slutticus
(3,428 posts)H2O Man
(73,333 posts)That looked suspiciously like something I might have posted on DU.
Recommended.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Faygo Kid
(21,477 posts)Could easily see Mordor saying that.
politicaljack78
(312 posts)do not diverge much from this comical satire.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)He popped her cherry.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,717 posts)According to the Bible, when the Angel Gabriel announced God's plan to Mary, she asked how this would be possible, as she had not "known a man." Even Mary had doubts! After the angel's brief explanation, she said, "Behod, I am the handmaiden of the Lord; let it be done to me according to your word," or "according to God's will," or however the translation may have been made.
God granted man - and WOMAN - free will. Mary had the right to refuse. Had Mary refused, Jesus would not have been born, at least, not to Mary. That is part of the reason she is honored, because she accepted this very difficult task and path.
(No, I'm not Catholic.)
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)I do believe that saying "let it be done unto me according to thy word." implies consent.
Zambero
(8,954 posts)He said "Mother Mary" and not "Virgin Mary", to help make his rather lame point perhaps? Aside from that, Mourdock's message seems to be: "Rape is OK, even God does it!"
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Sometimes I feel like the whole political process has been made up by the good folks at The Onion.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)crunch60
(1,412 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)mocks Mourdock for having to deny he worships a rape-loving deity
On his show Thursday night, Jon Stewart of The Daily Show tore into Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock. The GOP candidate recently said that pregnancies that result from rape were something God intended to happen. Stewart remarked that it was a bad sign when a candidate was forced to hold a press conference to clarify that he does not worship a rape-loving deity.
Raw Story (http://s.tt/1r2PY)
napkinz
(17,199 posts)TrogL
(32,818 posts)Where do I even begin. That's so nuts I can't even put it on my blog. Nobody will fucking believe me.
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cdavy88
(1 post)God is not only a rapist, he's a pedophile too. Mary was only 12 when god raped her.
A whole religion set up to worship a child rapist.
You're welcome to it.
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)Had to redact. Seriously, when they're crazy enough that you believe an Onion article, please put that it's an Onion article up top!
And, also, yes, Mary gave consent.