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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,937 posts)
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 08:29 PM Feb 2022

VMI to change honor system said to expel Blacks more often

LEXINGTON, Va. (AP) — The Virginia Military Institute says it will change its student-run honor court to make it more fair to cadets as part of a response to a state-ordered investigation into racism and sexism at the school.

VMI detailed the reforms in a progress report Friday, The Washington Post reported. The 70-page report, which the college gave to General Assembly members and the Virginia secretary of education, describes initiatives approved, enacted or begun last year. Those initiatives included mandatory diversity, equity, and inclusion training for administrators and members of VMI’s Board of Visitors, and changes to the Lexington school’s one-strike-and-you’re-out honor court system.

Data obtained by the newspaper showed Black students at VMI were expelled by the honor court at a disproportionately high rate for the three academic years between the fall of 2017 and the spring of 2020. Though Black cadets made up about 6% of the student body, they represented about 43% of those expelled for honor code violations.

Twelve out of the 28 VMI students dismissed in those three academic years were Black. When students of color were included in the count, the number of expelled rose to 15, or about 54% of the total, even though minorities made up only about 21% of the student population in that three-year period.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/vmi-to-change-honor-system-said-to-expel-blacks-more-often/ar-AATvNCJ

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VMI to change honor system said to expel Blacks more often (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 OP
Fuckin WOW !!! wow VMI ? Shit, too many MAGA minded in the military uponit7771 Feb 2022 #1
Linking two threads: mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 #2
On what basis did VMI say the black students were expelled? harumph Feb 2022 #3
Here's some more information about the code and the court. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #4
Thank you for that info. BeckyDem Feb 2022 #5

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,420 posts)
2. Linking two threads:
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 07:48 AM
Feb 2022

Sat Jun 19, 2021: Racism kept a Black WWII vet from a Purple Heart, he says. At 99, he got the award.

National

Racism kept a Black WWII vet from a Purple Heart, he says. At 99, he got the award.

By Timothy Bella
June 19, 2021 at 6:12 p.m. EDT

Osceola “Ozzie” Fletcher was a 22-year-old Army private delivering supplies to the Allied forces as they arrived on the coast of France on D-Day when his vehicle was struck by a German missile. The vehicle overturned, killing the driver and wounding Fletcher during the Battle of Normandy in June 1944.

But for more than three-quarters of a century, Fletcher was never recognized for being wounded in action in World War II. Instead, Fletcher said, he and about 2,000 other Black U.S. soldiers who saw action on D-Day were overlooked or denied awards because of racism and the racial inequalities of the country, including in the U.S. armed forces, which were racially segregated at the time.

“Black soldiers didn’t get the Purple Heart. They got injured, damaged, hurt. But they never got wounded,” the Brooklyn native said to local media last year. “Only the White men who were wounded got Purple Hearts.”

{snip}

Fletcher’s being honored with the Purple Heart comes as some military institutions face allegations of racism. An independent investigation of the culture at Virginia Military Institute released this month found that “institutional racism and sexism are present, tolerated, and left unaddressed.” Half of Black cadets at VMI “strongly or somewhat agree” that the school has a “culture of racial intolerance,” the report found, while 10 percent of White cadets said the same.

[VMI has tolerated ‘racist and sexist culture’ and must change, investigation finds]

{snip}

... {His daughter} found out that her father’s military records had burned in a fire in 1973. After a film crew interviewed him about his experiences, the recording was forwarded to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Streets eventually contacted the Joint Chiefs to get her father his award.

{snip}

By Timothy Bella
Timothy Bella is a staff writer and editor for the General Assignment team, focusing on national news. His work has appeared in outlets such as Esquire, the Atlantic, New York magazine and the Undefeated. Twitter https://twitter.com/TimBella

harumph

(1,898 posts)
3. On what basis did VMI say the black students were expelled?
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 08:50 AM
Feb 2022

IOW, what specific breaches of the honor code does VMI allege?
The articles does not appear to say.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
4. Here's some more information about the code and the court.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:32 AM
Feb 2022

The code is pretty straightforward. The court is not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/vmi-honor-court-racism/2021/01/28/d8703e6c-5b73-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html



Elected by the student body, VMI’s Honor Court operates in secrecy, investigating and prosecuting anyone suspected of an honor code violation. It has the power to enlist cadets to spy on classmates, who can be convicted by non-unanimous juries and then shamed with middle-of-the-night “drum-out” ceremonies announcing their names to the entire 1,700-member corps of cadets.

Wins told The Post that he is considering two changes: requiring unanimous juries for convictions and barring the Honor Court from announcing the names of expelled cadets during drum-out ceremonies.

(snip)

One faculty member who has reported cadets for honor code violations said VMI’s Honor Court system lacks due process and consistency. Sometimes, the professor said, academic department heads will greenlight accusations to go forward to the students running the Honor Court; other times, they won’t.

(snip)

None of the country’s federal service academies automatically expel students if they’re convicted of violating their honor codes, nor do VMI’s chief rivals, Virginia Tech and The Citadel in South Carolina — senior military col­leges that offer a corps of cadets and the chance to commission into the armed services.


From the wapo article, here's an example of someone who withdrew rather than going through an Honor Court trial, and was drummed out anyway:

On April 1, 2019, when she was a freshman, Jony Ursua was “arrested” by the Honor Court. Her crime: She’d filled out a special permission form that allows students to leave campus for the night and spend time with relatives, a guardian, a VMI staff member or parents of other cadets, according to her Honor Court charging documents.

Ursua said she’d typed on the form that a family friend was taking her out. But she didn’t let the school know she was also spending time with an ex-cadet whom she was dating.

Later, when her roommates asked who she spent her off-campus time with, she initially didn’t mention the date. Ultimately, she confessed to her friends. Then, she said, one of her roommates alerted the Honor Court.

Ursua also was charged with failing to turn herself in quickly enough to VMI’s commandant staff, and for “[lying] to her roommates about who she was with,” her charging documents say.

Ursua told The Post that she thought mentioning only the family friend on the permission form satisfied the school rules, since the friend was the one who was going to pick her up at campus. She didn’t think she needed to say she was also going to see a romantic interest.

“I was just a freshman, and I didn’t have a full understanding of the regulations around the permits,” she said. “And I didn’t tell my roommates about the date because it wasn’t their business. It was about personal privacy.”

Rather than face the Honor Court trial, Ursua withdrew from VMI — a decision that amounted to a guilty plea and an expulsion from the school. Ursua figured a full-blown trial wasn’t worth it. Even if she would have prevailed, she said she was losing sleep worrying about the case. She struggled to concentrate and figured she probably would bomb her final exams.

She was dismissed April 7, six days after her arrest.

“Per the VMI Honor System, you should no longer return to the VMI Post,” her letter of expulsion read. “We hope this interruption in your formal education will be rapidly overcome. Please be assured that we wish you every success in your transition and your future.”

Ursua, an immigrant from the Philippines who speaks English as a second language, said she lost a scholarship that would have paid for her final three years of college.

“My plan after VMI was to commission or work at the CIA or NSA,” said Ursua, who now attends Old Dominion University. “I’m getting grants now for college, but I’ll need to take out loans.”

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
5. Thank you for that info.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 10:39 AM
Feb 2022

What a disgusting system and ripe for any racist to abuse.

Elected by the student body, VMI’s Honor Court operates in secrecy, investigating and prosecuting anyone suspected of an honor code violation. It has the power to enlist cadets to spy on classmates, who can be convicted by non-unanimous juries and then shamed with middle-of-the-night “drum-out” ceremonies announcing their names to the entire 1,700-member corps of cadets.

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