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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:28 AM Feb 2022

Ivermectin: New study didn't, in fact, find it was effective against omicron.

The drug hasn't been shown to be an effective treatment for COVID-19.

Early on in the pandemic, ivermectin was one drug some doctors tested to see if it could be repurposed as a COVID-19 treatment. The antiparasitic had seemingly positive effects on some patients, however, more studies showed it had little to no effect when it comes to treating the disease. One new study in Japan is being touted by COVID misinformation peddlers as proof of ivermectin's effectiveness, but that's not the case.
https://www.cnet.com/health/medical/ivermectin-new-study-did-not-in-fact-find-it-was-effective-against-omicron/
A study from Japanese trading and pharmaceuticals company Kowa found ivermectin did have an "antiviral effect" on the SARS-CoV-2 virus, according to a Monday report from Reuters that was later corrected. What wasn't made clear in the initial story was that this effect was already known, and limited to "joint nonclinical research," meaning it showed that effect in test tubes. Ivermectin still hasn't shown any effectiveness in treating COVID.

Reuters really screwed up just now, wrongly reporting that a Phase III clinical trial showed Ivermectin was effective against Omicron, and then correcting the story after damage was already done.


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https://www.cnet.com/health/medical/ivermectin-new-study-did-not-in-fact-find-it-was-effective-against-omicron/


Is there any surprise that too many people are confused what to believe?





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EYESORE 9001

(29,537 posts)
13. Looks like he has credibility
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 10:50 AM
Feb 2022

The point I was trying to make is that Reuters has been around a long time and is not known as a purveyor of woo, like OAN or NewsMax. To issue a blanket condemnation because they were taken in by a Reuters story seems haughty to me. Reuters shot themselves in the foot by running that story, and their credibility took a serious hit, but that’s no reason to feel all high-and-mighty over those who were taken in by it.

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,421 posts)
14. Oh, I know what your point was...
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 11:16 AM
Feb 2022

I was just pointing out a great tool for anyone living in hurricane prone areas, which I no longer do. I found Mike's to be a great asset while living in FL. I small bit of humor was implied but that wasn't my purpose.

As far as I can see, there is close to zero credibility within the corporate MSM at this point.

Claustrum

(5,056 posts)
3. I don't think people are confused.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:35 AM
Feb 2022

They, as well as some of us, just want to find information that confirms our confirmation bias. As long as there is someone who took Ivermectin and survived, someone will believe it to be effective no matter what anyone say.

stopdiggin

(15,183 posts)
15. kinda' agree. the 'confused' seem mostly to run
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:10 PM
Feb 2022

to fairly predictable patterns and action. Confirmation bias is a better explanation for why someone is 'investigating' Ivermectin - and would be correspondingly 'influenced' by this article. 'Confusion' - by the most willingly confused.

hlthe2b

(113,240 posts)
4. It used to be that major media outlets hired a team of medical editors with more than
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:36 AM
Feb 2022

"general practice" expertise. Now, we are lucky if they have one of the latter. No expertise in virology, immunology, clinical trials, credible experience in infectious disease epidemiology to review these "write-ups." And, frankly many don't even ANYONE credible to review this nonsense.

Yet, the blame seemingly all goes to the public health authorities who actually HAVE that expertise when the paid talking heads or lay public reporters get it so damned wrong.

I don't know how this will get turned around. sigh..

Sympthsical

(10,905 posts)
7. Science reporting in this country has long been atrocious
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:55 AM
Feb 2022

I'm an amateur astronomer and will oftentimes stop reading halfway through anything written about space, astronomy, or cosmology by the MSM. Even science websites will have horrible write-ups sometimes. It feels like you're reading something as being told by a friend who heard it from a friend of a friend. Things are written that are just blatantly, obviously wrong. And the reporter doesn't know enough about the topic at hand to know what they're telling people is wrong.

Similar in medical reporting. I have seen at least four million HIV cures in the past twenty years. We probably should've started handing those out by now.

So it has been with Covid. I'm fortunate that I live with a PharmD. Whenever I read an article about treatments and medications, I always go pester him about the article to find out what's actually factual about what I'm reading. He always rolls his eyes and goes, "What have you been reading now?" More often than one would hope, the article written needs correction or clarification. "No, we don't do that. No, we don't use that for that." Etc.

So, pretty handy to have him about. And he only almost killed me with medication that one time.

lapfog_1

(31,784 posts)
5. Ivermectin has been shown to be effective against Sars-Cov-2
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 09:37 AM
Feb 2022

BUT only in test tubes and at doses much higher than proscribed for human ingestion.

Bleach is effective against SARS-Cov-2 in test tubes.

UV light is effective against SARS-Cov-2 in test tubes.

shove a UV light up your ass and drink a quart of bleach and take 100 ivermectin pills, and those MAY do something about the virus in your body. The autopsy will be very informative.

magicarpet

(18,464 posts)
16. You really drink urine,... you're just kidding,.. RIGHT ?
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:51 PM
Feb 2022

Bernado de La Paz,

9. I drink urine - could be found effective....




dalton99a

(92,859 posts)
8. A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 10:04 AM
Feb 2022

Repeat it and it goes twice as fast

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