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chia
(2,244 posts)Bannon, Flynn, Russia, etc. Astroturfing with trucks.
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/02/04/opinion/startling-trump-interference-points-gofundme-convoy-campaign-manipulation
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)azureblue
(2,158 posts)That got shut down. And there was 10 Million in it! I seriously doubt a but of small donors did that.. GFM is returning the money to the donors, BTW.
Hm - I wonder if GFM would share a censored list of donors - no names just a list of amounts
gab13by13
(21,506 posts)Takket
(21,706 posts)jmbar2
(4,920 posts)This thing stinks to high heaven. External funding of more insurrectionists. I wonder how many of the "demonstrators" are foreign cutouts?
chia
(2,244 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,982 posts)And yes Dark Money from the US.
gab13by13
(21,506 posts)I imagine that Russia also chips in.
Takket
(21,706 posts)Supported by American money.
At some point the great powers of the world are going to have to band together and decide to stop Putin from waging this war against Democracy he has been fighting pretty much unopposed for the last decade.
Farmer-Rick
(10,240 posts)Acting crazy stupid always gets more media attention then acting responsibly.
Money can only buy so many stupid people.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,928 posts)jmbar2
(4,920 posts)Just read an article on Russian disinformation ops (can't remember where) that identifies four tactics that they use frequently with videos
The State Dept has already warned that they will try to do a false flag video of supposed atrocities in Ukraine as a pretext to invade.
Other tricks they like to use:
- Misdated videos - taken earlier and elsewhere
- Misidentified actors
- Different locations
- Mischaracterized motives
Reuters has already found such evidence in videos of the truckers.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-truckers-video/fact-check-video-does-not-show-u-s-truckers-travelling-to-freedom-convoy-in-canada-idUSL1N2U63FX
chia
(2,244 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,102 posts)The whole thing stinks. Some more interesting fact-checking about it here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/03/fact-check-canadian-freedom-convoy-didnt-outsize-countrys-army/9277919002/
flying_wahini
(6,706 posts)I think It has Bannon/Stones fingerprints all over it.
If GoFundMe is so sure maybe they should publish their names, too.
That would probably show the trail of money.
jmbar2
(4,920 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 6, 2022, 01:32 PM - Edit history (1)
One of the chief donors is linked to the separatist movement in Canada, and the yellowvests in France.
The only way to cross the border, in a commercial truck or any other vehicle, is to get vaccinated, he concluded.
It was Menzies who connected the dots between the fundraiser and the political interests of organizer Tamara Lich, who has what he described as a history of association with radical groups, including the recently formed federal separatist Maverick Party in Alberta.
In her past, Lich was regional co-ordinator for Wexit in southeastern Alberta, and was member of the board for Wexit Alberta, TruckNews.com reported. It said she later joined the board of Wexit Canada, which has been rebranded the Maverick Party.
He reported that Lich, whom he said has no direct connection to the trucking industry, also had past links to the so-called Yellow Vest movement, which has many documented connections to extremist groups.
Right wing politicians are also involved
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Whether the federal Conservative party still supports such efforts to bring commerce to a halt by disrupting highway traffic might be an interesting question to ask its current leader, Erin OToole.
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/01/24/Truckers-Protesting-Vaccine-Mandates/
I think it would be useful for DUers to become disinfo sleuths to expose these ops. I will contribute as much time as I can to debunking.
FrankTC
(210 posts)Asking for a friend.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)of pickup orders that never showed up on top of feeding all those tRump truckers for free, a real shame.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)They get involved in this stunt. So stupidly counterproductive - theyve been had.
BlueWavePsych
(2,641 posts)halfulglas
(1,654 posts)Yeah, authentic local protest. Sure.