Donald the Ripper took boxes of WH documents with him back to Florida

[blogslug]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/07/trump-records-mar-a-lago/

Link to tweet

Jacqueline Alemany @JaxAlemany

Scoop: National Archives last month had to retrieve boxes of Trump WH records from Mar-a-Lago that were improperly removed from the WH. The items included correspondence w Kim Jong Un. With @jdawsey1 @thamburger & ⁦@AshleyRParker

National Archives had to retrieve Trump White House records from Mar-a-Lago

(The recovery of multiple boxes from Trump’s Florida resort, including letters from Barack Obama and Kim Jong Un, underscores the previous administration’s cavalier handling of presidential records)

President Donald Trump improperly removed multiple boxes from the White House that were retrieved by the National Archives and Records Administration last month from his Mar-a-Lago residence because they contained documents and other items that should have been turned over to the agency, according to three people familiar with the visit.

The recovery of the boxes from Trump’s Florida resort raises new concerns about his adherence to the Presidential Records Act, which requires the preservation of memos, letters, notes, emails, faxes and other written communications related to a president’s official duties.

Trump advisers deny any nefarious intent and said the boxes contained mementos, gifts, letters from world leaders and other correspondence. The items included correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, which Trump once described as “love letters,” as well as a letter left for his successor by President Barack Obama, according to two people familiar with the contents.

Discussions between the Archives and the former president’s lawyers that began last year resulted in the transfer of the records in January, according to one person familiar with the conversations. Another person familiar with the materials said Trump advisers discussed what had to be returned in December. People familiar with the transfer, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to reveal internal details...

[exboyfil]

1. Why didn't the FBI do a no knock raid

You know what us common people are subjected to.

That is theft.

[gab13by13]

13. The National Archives has a very good investigative unit.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

27. This was all awaiting the scotus decision...Pandoras Boxes are now being seized and opened.

You look for me, ok? M scared…



🙀😀

[joshdawg]

37. No shit!

How many laws and rules and regulations does it take for him to scoff at till someone has enough of his bullshit and arrest his ass? Anyone else would already be in jail. Why is this traitorous bastard above the law? (yeah, I know, that was a rhetorical question)

[electric_blue68]

53. Heh, heh, hehhhhh

[sop]

2. We can add espionage to the indictments.

(Remind me again why Hillary was crucified for the emails.)

[GoCubsGo]

9. I'll see your e-mails and raise you Whitewater.

Ken Starr sent the FBI pawing through her underwear drawer looking for non-existent documents related to a failed land deal--while she was living in the damn White House. Trump will continue to scream "witchhunt," but that investigation WAS a witchhunt.

[Kid Berwyn]

3. Love notes to murderous dictators.

Any mention of what Dimdonnie promised Putin he’d do for him?

[Yonnie3]

4. Link

https://wapo.st/35IF2Bd
A gift link from the wapo.
On my phone so no paste from me.

[blogslug]

5. Awesome

Thanks! I shall amend my OP as soon as I read it

[Vinca]

6. They'd better go back and check the closets for paintings and sculptures.

[lagomorph777]

26. And silverware

[leftyladyfrommo]

7. I wonder how many got burned? nt

[dchill]

38. I'm thinking somebody should have checked his stool!

[BootinUp]

8. Trump will live on in infamy. nt

[obamanut2012]

10. How many were shredded or burned?

This makes Nixon's band of dirty pols look bush league.

[jaxexpat]

24. And Bush's look Nixonian.......

[2naSalit]

11. I'd be surprised if he didn't.

[GoCubsGo]

12. I hope they also checked for other stolen government property while they were there.

Furniture, artwork, various gifts from foreign dignitaries that are supposed to remain as federal property, whatever else he and his grifter family could get their grubby, nasty hands on.

[gab13by13]

14. This is just another crime

to add to the pile of crimes that Trump could be indicted for. This is another big Trump nothingburger.

A better discussion to have would be on the topic, does DOJ believe that a former president cannot be indicted?

[Lonestarblue]

41. Evidently the DOJ thinks prosecuting a former president is just not worth it.

I’m not referring even to the January 6 investigation. Mueller handed the DOJ evidence that Trump had committed obstruction of justice at least 10 times and said that he could be prosecuted when he left office. DOJ has done nothing, and with this delay never will. Trump threatens Georgia Secretary of State on tape and demands that he create 11,000+ votes so Trump can “win” Georgia. More than a year later, DOJ has done nothing. In violation of the Presidential Records Act, Trump ripped official documents to shreds, a crime punishable by fines and imprisonment. Even with plenty of witnesses to his crime, the DOJ has done nothing.

Will it truly take Trump murdering someone in the middle of 5th Avenue for the DOJ to act? And, yes, I’ve read the comments here that investigations take time and we must wait. The Mueller investigation was complete and the indictments waiting for a DOJ to uphold the law. Why hasn’t it done so. They have made obstruction of justice by a president, and possibly other officials, a non issue now as they can act with impunity because it’s politically incorrect to prosecute such crimes (although I doubt that would stop Republicans prosecuting a Democrat—appearance of partisanship be damned).

[Grasswire2]

43. well said

Career criminal. It's exhausting.

Won't someone lock him up (with due process) and get him out of our lives??

[johnthewoodworker]

15. A Republican/Nazi Trumptard stole our records. Watch democrats get mad, make big noise, and

not do a damn thing.

[gab13by13]

19. Democrats don't have the authority

to prosecute anyone.

[leftieNanner]

36. There are no specific penalties for taking the records

In the article, it explains that it's a kind of "gentleman's agreement" that the records are to be preserved.

The Slobfather is not a gentleman.

[sinkingfeeling]

16. Why would have anyone expected the criminal to abide by

the Presidential Records Act when he disregards most laws?

[Rebl2]

21. Exactly

Majority Republicans disregard our laws anymore and some get away with it.

[Ford_Prefect]

17. It's a good thing they did that before Barbecue season begins...

[Thomas Hurt]

18. He wanted to frame them and put them up in Mar A Quid Pro Quo so people would be impressed.

[oldsoftie]

20. Remember when he/they screamed that Pelosi broke the law ripping up his speech?

So then he REAAAALY broke the law.

[hamsterjill]

49. And now Nancy doing that makes perfect sense.

Makes me love her even more!!!

[Mr. Ected]

22. I guess a law that isn't enforced can be stricken from the statutes, right?

Trump is going to help us pare down that voluminous statute book big time.

[Grasswire2]

44. exactly!!

In broad daylight!

[CaptainTruth]

25. "Donald the Ripper" is a great name for him.

[gab13by13]

28. I guess when Trump made his interpreter,

eat the notes she took in the Putin meeting we should have waited and pieced them back together.

Trump plays by different rules.

[3825-87867]

29. Interesting note for those who worry about the DOJ doing their job

I would imagine that the Attorney General of the United States of America is well aware of this:


In the Federal Government, in order for an official to take office, he or she must first take the oath of office; this is also known as a swearing-in ceremony. The official reciting the oath swears an allegiance to uphold the Constitution. The Constitution only specifies an oath of office for the President; however, Article VI of the Constitution states that other officials, including members of Congress, "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support this constitution."

So there's no doubt he will do the job that's expected of him, so help him (whomever) or be subject to violating that oath.

Sort of just like Mueller, right?

Kind of opens a whole bag of re-interpretive BS for the Attorney General but especially for the Republicans.

I'm sure they will follow the "intent" of the law, at least. Otherwise they could face serious consequences...like sternly worded letters.

[dwayneb]

30. What prevented Trump from destroying any of these records that incriminated him?

That's what I don't get about this. Sure, they recovered these boxes of records, but didn't Trump have open access to them for some time? Why wouldn't he have gone through them and burned any paper records that would have incriminated him?

[exboyfil]

31. Same reason Nixon didn't destroy all the tapes

once the Watergate burglars were arrested? Hubris?

I am still wondering this adminstration got to the server with the complete letter to Ukraine (and whatever other goodies were in it).

[fightforfreedom]

34. I forgot about the server.

So many crimes to try and remember.

[crickets]

47. This. nt

[gab13by13]

33. Absolutely, what the Archives recovered has been gone over by Trump lawyers.

When Trump met with Putin in Helsinki he made his interpreter destroy her notes and nothing was done. Why should we expect anything to be done now? Slightly different scenario but same basic principle.

[Lonestarblue]

42. Trump does nothing for himself because he sees everyone around him as servants.

He would have handed papers to aides to destroy, and at least some of them did try to follow the Presidential Records Act and preserve documents. I read recently that some of his aides sorted through documents in the burn bag and removed them because they were official records and not classified documents that should be burned.

[hamsterjill]

50. My thoughts exactly.

Like we trust Trump to turn over everything????

Good heavens.

[yaesu]

32. well we all remember the vid of tRump's people taking boxes and statues from the White House, nt

[3825-87867]

35. SO, where are all the documents and data Mueller had?

Is that somewhere safe or in trump's trunk?

[L. Coyote]

39. Count the silverware.

[Grasswire2]

45. let's hope there's a tracking device on each piece of priceless art. nt

[crickets]

46. Did the National Archives ever get a full transcript of tfg's phone call

to Zelensky? Whatever happened to the secret server the phone records were stored on, and what other things were improperly squirreled away on that server?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/465883-was-it-illegal-to-store-trumps-ukraine-call-on-a-secret-government-server

A second act in this drama is a stunner in its own right. According to the whistleblower complaint over Trump’s now-infamous July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which Trump made the “ask,” White House lawyers allegedly buried records of the call in a highly classified “super secret” server reserved for information regarding covert operations and other sensitive intelligence actions.

According to reporting by the New York Times, not all National Security Council (NSC) officials have access the special computer software required to penetrate the secret server, and “in extreme cases, agency aides must physically enter the offices of the intelligence directorate to read documents stored in the system.” Records of presidential phone calls within foreign leaders rarely belong in there.

[roamer65]

48. Tell all staff and patrons to get out of Merde-a-Lago.

Then bomb it.



People say it has bedbugs, anyway.

[Hassler]

51. Our press corpse again: "Improperly taken" illegally stolen.

[BlueIdaho]

52. Add that to the list of charges...

TFGs criminality is growing by the day.