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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 10:01 AM Feb 2022

The Tsunami Could Kill Thousands. Can They Build An Escape?

New York Times

OCEAN SHORES, Wash. — The 350 children at Ocean Shores Elementary School have practiced their earthquake survival plans, dropping under desks to ride out the convulsions, then racing upstairs to the second floor to await the coming tsunami.

Unless something changes, their preparations will most likely be futile.

The Cascadia fault off the Pacific Northwest coast is poised for a massive, 9.0-magnitude earthquake at some point, scientists say, a rupture that would propel a wall of water across much of the Northwest coast within minutes. Low-lying coastal neighborhoods in Washington, Oregon and Northern California would be under 10 feet or more of water, with the elementary school in Ocean Shores, Wash., facing an inundation that could be 23 feet deep.

The second-floor refuge students rush to in their drills stands 13 feet off the ground — in a structure that was not built to withstand a raging tsunami in the first place.




I've done vacation weekends several times at Ocean Shores and Long Beach. The drive out is on winding single-lane roads. Not easy to evacuate.

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The Tsunami Could Kill Thousands. Can They Build An Escape? (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2022 OP
Buildings on floats may have a chance to ride the waves. BSdetect Feb 2022 #1
Subduction events have the potential to be much stronger than strike-slip events ... Auggie Feb 2022 #2
I remember reading a national Geographic from 1965 that covered the Alaska earthquake, cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #3
Yep. People will be shocked when (not if) it happens. Auggie Feb 2022 #4
But not very likely to be people alive today FBaggins Feb 2022 #12
Right. Geologic time is a lot like biblical time. Hortensis Feb 2022 #16
Magnitude 8.0 event is 33 times stronger than a 7.0 Auggie Feb 2022 #5
Some coastal communities are preparing. Thunderbeast Feb 2022 #6
So many of those small towns along the Washington and Oregon coast are build almost on ratchiweenie Feb 2022 #7
We also used to pretend we could someone escape a nuclear blast Lettuce Be Feb 2022 #8
:) Well, it would have helped a lot all over CA where I was then. Hortensis Feb 2022 #15
That was such a joke. We knew it was futile. JanMichael Feb 2022 #23
Oregon: Potential Statewide Effects from a Local Tsunami L. Coyote Feb 2022 #9
Single lane roads? PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2022 #10
I've never been on a single lane road on the WA coast. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #14
I vacation on the Longbeach peninsula every year. More than a few of the locals Ferryboat Feb 2022 #11
great if you happen to be at home when it hits. Ex Lurker Feb 2022 #13
Seriously? Where can I find info on those? nolabear Feb 2022 #17
Nor sure where you can find out the info. Ferryboat Feb 2022 #19
I have a house in Ocean Shores. nolabear Feb 2022 #18
Goggle survival capsule Ferryboat Feb 2022 #20
I did. Woof! nolabear Feb 2022 #22
log in required to read article.... nt msongs Feb 2022 #21

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
1. Buildings on floats may have a chance to ride the waves.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 10:11 AM
Feb 2022

Impractical for very large structures but given the area's risk level at least some residential homes might be able to afford protection.

Auggie

(31,168 posts)
2. Subduction events have the potential to be much stronger than strike-slip events ...
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 10:36 AM
Feb 2022

we have little idea just how strong a 9.0 magnitude can be for the simple reason that very few of us have ever experienced one.

The last huge earthquake, the last really “Big One” to hit the Pacific Northwest Coast, struck around 9 p.m. on Jan. 26, 1700 — 321 years ago.

Called Cascadia, the magnitude 9.0 quake caused the entire Pacific Northwest coastline to suddenly drop 3 to 6 feet and sent a 33-foot high tsunami across the ocean to Japan.

This was one of the largest earthquakes the Pacific Northwest has ever had, according to HistoryLink, and compares with two disastrous earthquakes: the March 27, 1964, Alaska earthquake, which measured 9.2 moment magnitude, and the May 21-22, 1960, Chile earthquake, which measured 9.5 moment magnitude.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/northwest/on-this-day-in-1700-the-really-big-one-a-magnitude-9-0-earthquake-hit-western-washington/


 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
3. I remember reading a national Geographic from 1965 that covered the Alaska earthquake,
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 10:42 AM
Feb 2022

One can only imagine the devastation if that were to happen today.

FBaggins

(26,732 posts)
12. But not very likely to be people alive today
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 12:39 PM
Feb 2022

That fault zone reportedly has an 8.0+ event once every 300-900 years (with an average of about 580 years).

It's been just a hair over 300 years since the last one. So while it is possible that we'll see another in our lifetimes, it isn't particularly likely.

Auggie

(31,168 posts)
5. Magnitude 8.0 event is 33 times stronger than a 7.0
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 11:06 AM
Feb 2022

Essentially, each successive magnitude is 33 times larger than the last. That means a magnitude-8.0 earthquake is 33 times stronger than a 7.0, and a magnitude-9.0 earthquake is 1,089 (33 x 33) times more powerful than a 7.0 — the energy ramps up fast.

https://www.livescience.com/31464-earthquake-magnitude-explained.html

Been through a 6.9 (Loma Prieta) and that’s was pretty damn strong.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
6. Some coastal communities are preparing.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 11:07 AM
Feb 2022

Seaside, Oregon is moving schools to higher ground. Plans are in the works to build an evacuation platform with municipal services located on the deck.

When we stay on the coast at Rockaway, we know the evacuation route. We can walk about 10 minutes to higher ground. "Go bags" hang next to the door with emergency supplies.

Many vulnerable coastal towns are making preparations, but it is a long-term expensive proposition.

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
7. So many of those small towns along the Washington and Oregon coast are build almost on
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 11:41 AM
Feb 2022

the water and the highway is two lane along most of the coast from the tip of the Olympic Penninsula to Los Angeles. They are creating Tsunami escape routes all along the coasts but I cannot imagine what will happen if a 9.0 strikes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. :) Well, it would have helped a lot all over CA where I was then.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:15 PM
Feb 2022

Large numbers of us in Los Angeles might only have needed to kiss our asses goodbye once and be done with it, but the way L.A. alone is spread out many others would have survived -- for better and worse.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. Oregon: Potential Statewide Effects from a Local Tsunami
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 12:08 PM
Feb 2022
In my county, a Big One tsunami would impact over 75% of residences.

Potential Statewide Effects from a Local Tsunami

Following is the number of housing units and population summarized by county that are located within the local tsunami inundation zone.
County Housing Units Population
Clatsop 16,238 26,214
Coos 15,870 31,439
Curry 7,559 12,466
Douglas 2,099 3,637
Lane 3,858 5,499
Lincoln 20,856 26,872
Tillamook 11,842 12,290


PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
10. Single lane roads?
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 12:10 PM
Feb 2022

Surely two lanes. Or do you drive in one direction one part of the day, and the other the rest of the day?

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
14. I've never been on a single lane road on the WA coast.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:04 PM
Feb 2022

Unless it was a driveway. 2-lane blacktop.

There needs to be high ground within a 20-minute walk; providing that is what this article is about.

It won't be a perfect solution no matter what.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
11. I vacation on the Longbeach peninsula every year. More than a few of the locals
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 12:26 PM
Feb 2022

Have a escape pod in the backyard. Basically its a sphere designed to hold and sustain the occupants after the waters come ashore.

Floats, equipped with a transponder food and water. Japanese product. Around 10k.
Would hate to be the one who has to ignore the neighbors outside.

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
13. great if you happen to be at home when it hits.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 12:39 PM
Feb 2022

if you're at work or at the store, you're out of luck.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
19. Nor sure where you can find out the info.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:38 PM
Feb 2022

When we were researching retirement homes we came across a website promoting survival craft.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
18. I have a house in Ocean Shores.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 01:39 PM
Feb 2022

Just bought it a few months ago as, you know, an escape from the horrible stressors of life these days. A place we can enjoy nature, kick back and relax, finally feel we can play a little in this miserable, catastrophe-riddled time.

So thanks a pantload. Oh, I know it’s not you; you’re being a helper. And tbh, this has been an enormous topic of conversation on the coast. The actual meetings, proposals, budget issues, and so forth, are hot items. Everyone is figuring the odds.

We’re on what passes for high ground and the house itself is three floors and sturdy as hell, so if any structure would be safe it would. But I guess going out to eat or driving or going to the beach or anything is out. So…cool. Cool.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
22. I did. Woof!
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 06:48 PM
Feb 2022

I guess my old New Orleans “always have an ax in the attic in case you have to chop through to the roof” training might be useful after all.

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