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drray23

(7,627 posts)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:17 PM Feb 2022

The Trump strategy to get away with crimes

Commit so many infractions that you overwhelm the system. Clog it by filling frivolous appeals.

Go from one scandal to another one by constantly spewing bullshit to keep the media off balance.

The poor DOJ and 1/6 committee keep having to issue more subpoena, talk to more witnesses because Trump and his crew raised the bar to a level that is order of magnitudes worse than Watergate.

Hopefully this will run to an end eventually and Trump will be caught. This strategy has worked all his life so far.



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The Trump strategy to get away with crimes (Original Post) drray23 Feb 2022 OP
And lie, lie, lie Walleye Feb 2022 #1
It really is a shame that he hasn't yet suffered a massive, skull-popping stroke. Orrex Feb 2022 #2
I don't think he has the emotional capacity Mr.Bill Feb 2022 #14
A stroke requires a brain... lees1975 Feb 2022 #22
And a heart... Probatim Feb 2022 #26
And courage! Pinback Feb 2022 #33
My hope is that TFG gets a disease which totally incapacitates him. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2022 #36
If you can't dszzle them with your brilliance... TreasonousBastard Feb 2022 #3
Delay, delay, delay. milestogo Feb 2022 #4
That's the key to the political crimes. Probatim Feb 2022 #27
Lather, rinse, repeat Gregory Peccary Feb 2022 #35
And frame government as evil to Baked Potato Feb 2022 #5
As if the crimes weren't bad enough, he's tearing the country into pieces SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #6
No...I don't give his fans that as an out. Moostache Feb 2022 #24
I've been waiting for his comeuppance since the late 80s. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #34
And what ever crimes you commit, accuse your enemy of doing the same thing Norbert Feb 2022 #7
And stay in power as president for life Qutzupalotl Feb 2022 #8
It's worked so far! budkin Feb 2022 #9
Why it was SO important to get him EARLY. Aides Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2022 #10
He's mastered the Gish Gallop of crime. SeattleVet Feb 2022 #11
He's forever the victim. Always Persecuted. spanone Feb 2022 #12
Bannon called it "Flood the Zone". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #13
What's stopping authorities from focusing on one crime and prosecuting the hell out of it? sop Feb 2022 #15
Good question. What do you think the most slam dunk Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2022 #16
His latest crime, violation of the Presidential Records Act, would be a good place to start. sop Feb 2022 #20
If it's that obvious, why aren't we fucking DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT? (nt) Paladin Feb 2022 #17
Another strategy of his is to do it in plain sight. thesquanderer Feb 2022 #18
Seriously - does anyone TRULY believe the SlobFather has a STRATEGY about ANYTHING? NoMoreRepugs Feb 2022 #19
He is Heath Ledger's Joker portrayal brought to life.... Moostache Feb 2022 #28
And don't forget the delaying tactics. calimary Feb 2022 #21
To get to Trump we need to do what DOJ did for Watergate, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #23
Same as any other crime family. Roll them up one by one Nululu Feb 2022 #25
Why can't he be indicted for Stormy Daniels campaign finance matter? It's a start. Pepsidog Feb 2022 #29
Good idea, slam dunk case, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #30
Time for a new legal strategy? slumcamper Feb 2022 #31
Classic narcissistic, sociopathic behavior. Run and hide, attack, lie, and deflect AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #32
It continues to work. kairos12 Feb 2022 #37
36. My hope is that TFG gets a disease which totally incapacitates him.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 08:38 PM
Feb 2022

I want him to be mentally acute, but unable to speak or move any part of his body. I want him on a ventilator for the rest of his life, being fed through a tube, and unable to get anyone to change the channel the television, which is locked on MSNBC.

Oh, and I want him to be incapable of wiping his own ass.

Then I want him to have the distinction of being the former president who has lived the longest -- maybe to 101 years old.

Is that too much to ask?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
24. No...I don't give his fans that as an out.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:20 PM
Feb 2022

Trump is a carnival barking narcissist of the highest order. He is nothing more than an evil W.C. Fields but more clownish and thus more evil.

People who openly support Trump's racist and authoritarian bullshit are 100% to blame for their own actions. I am not going to wait until after the war to call them out as the same people who will gleefully burn down the nation only to try to bury their uniforms and pretend later they were duped or coerced. Nuh-uh...no sale!

Trump is being himself, self-absorbed, moronic and boorish. So too are his loyal peons. They are the one's tearing apart the country because they want to say someone told them it is OK to be open and free bigots and fools.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
34. I've been waiting for his comeuppance since the late 80s.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 06:03 PM
Feb 2022

He needs to be the model for justice meaning "nobody is above the law" in the times of winner-take-all, 21st century America. Otherwise there will be no JUSTICE. He is plowing ahead with his model of redefining justice as not applying to him or those in his circle because he can just willfully usurp our nation of laws.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Why it was SO important to get him EARLY. Aides
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:26 PM
Feb 2022

literally started getting their resumes ready over Comey, anticipating FG's demise. His approval was at it's lowest at end of 2017. When we just blew off impeachment. Brilliant articles presented on 11-15-2017 by Steve Cohen D-TN.

sop

(10,156 posts)
20. His latest crime, violation of the Presidential Records Act, would be a good place to start.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:15 PM
Feb 2022

And Fulton County's special grand jury investigating Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia would be another.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
18. Another strategy of his is to do it in plain sight.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:06 PM
Feb 2022

Like he couldn't have been doing anything unseemingly if he was doing it so publicly.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
19. Seriously - does anyone TRULY believe the SlobFather has a STRATEGY about ANYTHING?
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:10 PM
Feb 2022

I for one doubt he's capable of developing one.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
28. He is Heath Ledger's Joker portrayal brought to life....
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:24 PM
Feb 2022

A true dog chasing cars (an actual insult dogs)...and he honestly doesn't have a clue what to do with one if he catches it either...


calimary

(81,220 posts)
21. And don't forget the delaying tactics.
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:16 PM
Feb 2022

Often he can just wait out the plaintiffs because they’ll run out of money first and will drop it or settle for pennies. In this case here and now, I bet he’s adding generous amounts of delay, anticipating that he’ll steal his way back into the White House and can just make it all go away.

I think too many people underestimate him, still. To this day. Even knowing (or conceding) what they know he’s already done and how many times and different ways he’s tried to cheat.

Seems to me there’s a point where the average person would sniff “naaaaah, he wouldn’t do THAT…” because the average person would tend to have at least some basic knowledge of morals and having a conscience and obeying the law. I’d guess the average person simply wouldn’t involve themselves in so many layers of shenanigans. And certainly couldn’t afford to. And few have his kind of chutzpah.

So, seems to me that would make it hard to wrap one’s mind around shady entanglements like his. Most of us simply don’t have that mentality or worldview, and/or weren’t brought up that way.

And I suspect he understands that very keenly. I bet that’s how and why he’s been able to find so many patsies and pushovers throughout his lifetime.
Hell, he’s not only rolled the biggest banks and lending/funding outfits in the world, he’s taken ownership of roughly half the American voting-age population.

I think it comes down to simple denial. Nobody but another con artist would imagine conning people as shamelessly and recklessly and on such a colossally huge scale could recognize this. Lucky for him, everybody else, including his millions of “marks”, is probably in denial. “Naaaaaah. Couldn’t happen.” Or, as this other mom I knew who was a Republican but who was sure Roe v Wade would always remain untouchable would say, “s’not happening.” It’s not in their so-called “wheelhouse” to operate that way. Therefore, the logical extension of that is the assumption that nobody else operates that way, either. Only bad guys (and maybe Democrats and others they hate and resent). But not him.

Really nice the way you’ve set this up, donald. Boatloads of chumps you’ve conned and conned and they’re so into you they keep coming up for more.

He’s the modern-day P. T. Barnum, who keenly understands how many suckers are born every minute.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
23. To get to Trump we need to do what DOJ did for Watergate,
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:18 PM
Feb 2022

create a special grand jury. You can't start at the top to convict the top.

Let's look at Mark Meadows, the select committee sent a criminal referral 54 days ago. We have evidence in writing implicating Meadows in the plot to overthrow the election. Bring him before a grand jury, no excuses for executive privilege like we are going through now trying to get a conviction for contempt of Congress.

Let's look at Jeffrey Clark and John Eastman, they go before the select committee and plead the 5th 100 times. Bring them both before a grand jury, stop wasting time with this executive privilege bs. We have documents that Eastman wrote on overturning the election. Clarke wanted DOJ to send out bogus notices of election fraud.

The Watergate grand jury indicted numerous Nixon aides and cabinet members and named Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator only because he was a sitting president.

Executive privilege does not apply when used to hide crimes.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
31. Time for a new legal strategy?
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:49 PM
Feb 2022

The concept of "omnibus" (as in bills) is accepted practice in lawmaking/legislation.

Given that, why not omnibus lawsuit?

Wrap the entire shit-show up in a massive, single federal suit and file it in DC.

Too much dicking around otherwise, and the OP is spot on.

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