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MineralMan

(146,297 posts)
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 10:52 AM Feb 2022

The Very Worst Thing Trump Took from the White House

was the dignity of the Presidency. Regaining that is going to take years, or even decades. He has sullied the very office he held, covering it with the filth that surrounds him.

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The Very Worst Thing Trump Took from the White House (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2022 OP
he didn't take a think as he never did that. He took a thing, however. More than one. CurtEastPoint Feb 2022 #1
Fixed that. Thanks! MineralMan Feb 2022 #2
but Trump and thinking.... the possibilities! CurtEastPoint Feb 2022 #12
The Obama letter is up there malaise Feb 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Feb 2022 #4
I think President Biden has done an excellent job helping to restore that dignity. Aristus Feb 2022 #5
It will take years to restore the faith in the US that Trump killed. Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #26
For starters... BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #32
And his filth seems now to stretch to Canada and our NATO allies. Samrob Feb 2022 #6
I've always said that place would need a full-scale exorcism when TFG left. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #7
Or at very least the burning of massive quanitities of sage MineralMan Feb 2022 #10
After Bush and Cheney, i learned its not the office , but the man in the Office Mr. Sparkle Feb 2022 #8
Sadly, not all Americans feel that way. MineralMan Feb 2022 #11
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #9
The office is bigger and more durable than Trump C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #13
That's going to take considerable work, I think. MineralMan Feb 2022 #14
Bleach and incarcerations. C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #15
I don't think the office ever fully recovered from Nixon Jarqui Feb 2022 #16
I think that depends on your perspective. MineralMan Feb 2022 #17
From the moment Trump walked into the White House... maddiemom Feb 2022 #45
Obama was by far the greatest President of my lifetime in my opinion Jarqui Feb 2022 #46
In mine as well. Ligyron Feb 2022 #73
Actually, the worst thing was his freedom. relayerbob Feb 2022 #18
All his lawyers thought he would be arrested on January 6th. onecaliberal Feb 2022 #31
Worse than the dignity of the Presidency, Trump took away the respect the world had for the U.S. Poiuyt Feb 2022 #19
Well, the world's respect for the Presidency is based on dignity. MineralMan Feb 2022 #20
Respect and trust Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2022 #68
You're absolutely right Poiuyt Feb 2022 #69
So true. Thank goodness for Joe Biden Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #21
He is a solid representative of this country to the world. MineralMan Feb 2022 #23
The sad thing is, his Ugly American schtick hit the sweet spot for around 70 million voters Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #22
Yes. That is one of the saddest things that has been revealed. MineralMan Feb 2022 #24
I had one tell me he voted for Trump because he wanted him Emile Feb 2022 #28
What the hell does that even mean? Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #33
I think he got his wish. Emile Feb 2022 #42
Yes, you don't really think about the President Turbineguy Feb 2022 #25
And our Rose Garden!! They tore that up too. Budi Feb 2022 #27
Agree. tavernier Feb 2022 #29
rhetorically, yes bigtree Feb 2022 #30
Very true Hekate Feb 2022 #34
Amen to that... what a horror! secondwind Feb 2022 #35
Agreed! pandr32 Feb 2022 #36
Convicting him for his crimes will demonstrate that his doings will not go unpunished____nt TeamProg Feb 2022 #37
I think that reflects more on the GOP than the office of POTUS. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #38
Saw your title immediately thought...dignity MiHale Feb 2022 #39
My 1st thought: dignity SheltieLover Feb 2022 #40
Not just the dignity of the office, but the dignity of our entire country. OMGWTF Feb 2022 #41
Congrats on your 2000th post, my dear OMGWTF! Love your username. ♥ CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2022 #44
How about that... IrishAfricanAmerican Feb 2022 #43
I have to add one other point Jarqui Feb 2022 #47
IDK if I agree.... WillUSAF Feb 2022 #48
He turned it into a gameshow nvme Feb 2022 #49
The minority won! (sorta but they got to serve) That's what happened, twice so far, in this century. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #70
I agree. He tarnished the gleaming legacy that Obama left him. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #50
Yes you're so right MineralMan FakeNoose Feb 2022 #51
The Office of the President will recover. The attack on our democracy is still ongoing. Trump took Martin68 Feb 2022 #52
It is going to be up to us to ensure that our democracy survives MineralMan Feb 2022 #53
Look under his bed. ificandream Feb 2022 #54
I don't ever want to be anywhere near his bed! MineralMan Feb 2022 #55
Notice I didn't say THEIR bed. :) ificandream Feb 2022 #56
Can you imagine the smell? Grasswire2 Feb 2022 #60
Agree 100% BlueJac Feb 2022 #57
I read the title and was going to argue strongly against your ForgedCrank Feb 2022 #58
Thanks for reading on... MineralMan Feb 2022 #59
Hopefully he'll wind up as a negative footnote in history. calimary Feb 2022 #61
If that's all it turns out to be, good. MineralMan Feb 2022 #62
Indeed. That's what galls me, too. calimary Feb 2022 #64
yep llashram Feb 2022 #63
He has damaged the office, murielm99 Feb 2022 #65
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #66
Yes, dignity and many other things... Patton French Feb 2022 #67
I would argue the dignity of the Presidency William769 Feb 2022 #71
Agreed. MineralMan Feb 2022 #72
how did America and England end up with Trump and Johnson Skittles Feb 2022 #74
Exactly. niyad Feb 2022 #75
not to mention MFM008 Feb 2022 #76
And some people thought it was YoshidaYui Feb 2022 #77
Just look at how Joe and his people have done with COVID. I mean at the White House with the brewens Feb 2022 #78

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Aristus

(66,341 posts)
5. I think President Biden has done an excellent job helping to restore that dignity.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 10:54 AM
Feb 2022

But I agree with you. It's going to take years, or even decades, until there's no one left who believes anyone like TFG is even remotely worthy of the office of President of the United States.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
26. It will take years to restore the faith in the US that Trump killed.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:45 AM
Feb 2022

Our allies know that Republicans could reelect Trump, or someone even worse, who would undo any Democratic agreements and destroy alliances, all while a complacent Congress does nothing to stop him because they know he will sign every tax cut for the wealthy they pass and support every extremist right-wing nominee for the Supreme Court that Leonard Leo of the Federalist Society chooses to nominate.

Until the Republican party in its current iteration of authoritarian rule is destroyed and is no longer viewed as a threat to Western democracies, we will not regain the faith and trust of the world.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
32. For starters...
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:58 AM
Feb 2022

The GQP needs to reject its terrorist bent and start acting like Americans again. Maybe then we can talk about restoring faith in America.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
6. And his filth seems now to stretch to Canada and our NATO allies.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 10:54 AM
Feb 2022

We are going to be long-haulers of the Trumpian pandemic.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,932 posts)
8. After Bush and Cheney, i learned its not the office , but the man in the Office
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 10:55 AM
Feb 2022

that brings dignity and hope to the nation.

Jarqui

(10,124 posts)
16. I don't think the office ever fully recovered from Nixon
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:20 AM
Feb 2022

President Eisenhower and President Kennedy seemed revered - on a higher pedestal.

Reagan, Clinton & Bush had their issues.
Obama was smeared.
Then, worst of all, we have Trump.

Biden's getting smeared by the media.

MineralMan

(146,297 posts)
17. I think that depends on your perspective.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:22 AM
Feb 2022

President Obama went a long way toward restoring the dignity of the office. However, Trump sullied the Presidency from the moment he walked into the White House. President Biden is working hard to clear away the stench, but it will take time.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
45. From the moment Trump walked into the White House...
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:04 PM
Feb 2022

BY SHOVING IN FRONT OF MELANIA and leaving the Obamas to graciously see that she preceded them into her new home. THAT picture really said more than a thousand words about the man. It's the thing I remember above all about the Trump inauguration.

Jarqui

(10,124 posts)
46. Obama was by far the greatest President of my lifetime in my opinion
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:06 PM
Feb 2022

He did go a long way to restoring the dignity of the office - from our perspective.
He was the kind of President I always hoped for.

The birthers, the racists, etc smeared him with lies from a different, disgraceful perspective undermining his efforts while bunches of the media played along or amplified those lies.

That's where I'm coming from. I bet you're not far off.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
18. Actually, the worst thing was his freedom.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:24 AM
Feb 2022

He should've been arrested Jan 6, and sent to Gitmo, along with his obvious co-conspirators. The more back-room ones could join later.

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
19. Worse than the dignity of the Presidency, Trump took away the respect the world had for the U.S.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:26 AM
Feb 2022

Even if we have a string of great presidents, it will take decades for that to return.

MineralMan

(146,297 posts)
20. Well, the world's respect for the Presidency is based on dignity.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:28 AM
Feb 2022

So I believe anyhow. Trump's constant lying destroyed the dignity of that office. He could not be trusted to speak the truth about anything, so he destroyed everyone's trust in the office itself. As you say, it will take a long time to restore that.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
68. Respect and trust
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 05:24 PM
Feb 2022

How can they ever trust that we won’t elect someone like Trump again. We don’t even know that, ourselves.

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
69. You're absolutely right
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 06:14 PM
Feb 2022

We elected a stupid fascist once, who's to say we won't again. Hell, we might in 2024!

MineralMan

(146,297 posts)
23. He is a solid representative of this country to the world.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:32 AM
Feb 2022

His Presidency will help in restoring that office to one of international respect. Trump made us a laughing stock.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
22. The sad thing is, his Ugly American schtick hit the sweet spot for around 70 million voters
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:32 AM
Feb 2022

They didn't want a President. They wanted a right wing radio talk show host yelling at the "enemy" and strutting around like a peacock. They got that and so much more from Trump.

Trump is a reflection of the worst of us. A minority of us, to be sure, but with our anachronistic Constitution, minority rule seems to have its place in a democracy. There is an element in our country that wants to blow the whole thing up and they've been handed the opportunity to realize their dream.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
30. rhetorically, yes
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 11:54 AM
Feb 2022

...materially, though, these documents in question may be an attempt to cover up illegality.

That goes beyond the fact that he was a disgraceful president. Crimes committed like that one, if not challenged and prosecuted, create precedents for those who would do more than sully our democracy

pandr32

(11,582 posts)
36. Agreed!
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 12:11 PM
Feb 2022

The fake gold tarnish of the capital 'T' which doesn't have the high-class connotation TFG's family thinks they've attached to the 'brand'. It stands for shoddy, corrupt, parasitic, Russian and American mobs, poser, loser, and low class.

We will have to earn "the dignity of the Presidency" back. So far I think Biden is doing great but it seems the media is complicit with the Republicans in trying to paint him as an old lame duck. That's all the republicans are good for--putting up barricades and whining loudly.

We've got to keep cheering on and supporting our hard-working team of democrats from the top down. There are more of us then TFG's supporters.

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
38. I think that reflects more on the GOP than the office of POTUS.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 12:25 PM
Feb 2022

I'm not sure the Republican party will ever have any dignity, at least not for a generation.

Jarqui

(10,124 posts)
47. I have to add one other point
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:10 PM
Feb 2022

Trump did sully the office. No question. Worst ever.

But he didn't do it by himself. Too many in a position to do something about it, maybe held their nose as they looked the other way or enabled him.

Trump damaged the dignity of the office with the majority of Republicans blessing.

 

WillUSAF

(91 posts)
48. IDK if I agree....
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:40 PM
Feb 2022

To me the dignity of the presidency is still there. One "man" cannot take away what 44, now 45, other presidents have established. Did he (the fat orange fuck) spit on the office? Certainly! Did he tear up on Constitution (among other docs apparently lol) Of course! The presidency is a dignified institution. The last 4 years prior to Biden was like a big skid mark in your underwear. Its disgusting but you wash them and move on. We just can't shit ourselves again.

nvme

(860 posts)
49. He turned it into a gameshow
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:48 PM
Feb 2022

On second thought, WE (Americans) turned it into a gameshow by voting him in (electoral college). We need to look at the causes and condition that allowed a festering boil like him into the office in the first place. What is happening here?

jaxexpat

(6,822 posts)
70. The minority won! (sorta but they got to serve) That's what happened, twice so far, in this century.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 06:43 PM
Feb 2022

It's the backwards form of democracy and it doesn't work. How could it ever turn out well?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
50. I agree. He tarnished the gleaming legacy that Obama left him.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:49 PM
Feb 2022

At his absolute best, Drumpf could have never, ever lived up to that, but I doubt we saw his "best"...which is and was more or less appalling. OTOH, I think we saw very little of his worst, either.

All that aside - cast your mind back to the debacle that Bush 43 created where foreign policy and international goodwill had stood instead. It did not take long at all for President Obama to turn that around and personally become the most admired man in the world. Even becoming the 100th most admired would have been a decent result, considering the deep pit in which he started.

As good a President as Joe Biden may be, I'm afraid he doesn't have the charisma of his illustrious Democratic forebear. But someone in the office who merely offered his hand to other countries and can string together ideas and coherent sentences is going to seem statesmanlike by comparison, at the worst.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
51. Yes you're so right MineralMan
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:50 PM
Feb 2022

Most of us had an inkling even before he got in the White House. But the "grab 'em by the pussy" tape left no doubt in anyone's mind, and it's been a long slow 5-year slide. He hit rock bottom on January 6th last year.

Now we Democrats once again have a huge clean-up job, and it's been made so much worse by Chump.

Martin68

(22,800 posts)
52. The Office of the President will recover. The attack on our democracy is still ongoing. Trump took
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 01:56 PM
Feb 2022

faith in the democratic system with him. That worries me a great deal more.

MineralMan

(146,297 posts)
53. It is going to be up to us to ensure that our democracy survives
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 02:30 PM
Feb 2022

and thrives. We cannot ever again let petty differences among Democrats keep us from going to the polls and supporting Democratic candidates for every office. We have to do it in large numbers, too. No slacking or second-guessing in future elections. That must begin this year, in 2022.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
60. Can you imagine the smell?
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 02:57 PM
Feb 2022

And remember his insistence that he strips the bed himself, and no one is allowed to touch his toiletries and linens?

I bet he takes a bucket of KFC to bed.

ForgedCrank

(1,779 posts)
58. I read the title and was going to argue strongly against your
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 02:47 PM
Feb 2022

claim before I read the rest of it.
But it appears as if my knee jerked before my eyes could read the rest of your most accurate post.
Damage to the dignity of the office was most certainly the prominent casualty inflicted by that ass.

calimary

(81,254 posts)
61. Hopefully he'll wind up as a negative footnote in history.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:07 PM
Feb 2022

Unfortunately, he’s been such a huge pile of shit on the face of this country that we’ll never be able to get completely clear of him in the years ahead.

There will be articles galore. There will be books. There will be doctoral theses about - well, this grotesque pile of feces ( just for the joy of rhyming, here )!

As much as I wish he winds up as little more than a bug splat on the windshield of history, we’ll be cursed with his name and likeness when our grandchildren are our age. Lest anybody doubt, consider how the Adolf Hitler reference still comes up in discussion, and that infernal beast’s heyday began almost a century ago.

MineralMan

(146,297 posts)
62. If that's all it turns out to be, good.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:10 PM
Feb 2022

I worry that he has altered the reality we live in to some degree, though.

calimary

(81,254 posts)
64. Indeed. That's what galls me, too.
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:24 PM
Feb 2022

The worst thing that could ever happen to him is that nobody’s talking about him anymore. That won’t happen for at least a few decades - which is an optimistic but probably unrealistic dread of mine.

Human nature being what it is, he’s touched something awfully deep and buried in the dark hearts of too many people. And they aren’t letting go of that fiendish validation anytime soon. Because one aspect of that human nature is pride - manifesting in the refusal to admit to being wrong.

And NOBODY wants to admit they were wrong, much less that they’ve been totally HAD. At the end of a fork. THAT’S a huge bump in the road of human nature.

murielm99

(30,739 posts)
65. He has damaged the office,
Tue Feb 8, 2022, 03:40 PM
Feb 2022

and our credibility around the world.

But to me, the worst of it is that Trump has poisoned America's spirit.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
76. not to mention
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 02:05 AM
Feb 2022

leaving his KFC stained sweaty prints all over anything of value.
His make up stains on the furniture.
his orange smears in the bedroom.
A plugged up toilet....
He stole the change from the sofas
had everything appraised..
Crapped on the constitution
she left her greased stripper pole
destroyed Jackie Kennedy's rose garden....
The Hitler youth took everything that wasn't nailed to daddy's head.
Just trying to help....

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
77. And some people thought it was
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 03:09 AM
Feb 2022

A legitimate administration, kinda like Fox calling themselves legitimate news'

brewens

(13,583 posts)
78. Just look at how Joe and his people have done with COVID. I mean at the White House with the
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:43 AM
Feb 2022

staff and everyone that comes and goes. I haven't seen any numbers but know it has to be a really low infection rate compared to the filthy, disease spreading vermin we had infesting the place before.

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