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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan we please get Al Franken back to Washington?
The whole Al Franken episode that ended up in him resigning sickens me every time I think about it, especially in light of what the Orange Baboon has done. We really need his strong voice back in Washington. In the Senate along with Amy Klobuchar would be awesome, but I'd accept him as a Congressman. But we need him back. Can someone (Thom Hartmann, maybe) start a national movement to get him back in Congress? I see he's doing a lecture tour, which is a good start to increase his visibility, but that's not enough. He was an outstanding Senator. We need him again in Congress.
This 2019 article from the New Yorker says what we already know, but also points up how badly we need him again.
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MineralMan
(146,288 posts)I don't know if he holds any bitterness toward the tiny minority of Democrats who hounded him out of office, but I would not expect him to subject himself to such things again.
I remember that entire sequence of events as it was reflected here on DU. It was, at times, beyond ugly. Al Franken was someone I supported heartily here in Minnesota as he ran for and barely won that Senate seat. I met him a couple of times, along with his wife and daughter. All three were kind, thoughtful, and gracious people.
He did nothing that deserved being ousted from his Senate seat. Nothing. Shame on those who insisted that he be forced to resign!
hlthe2b
(102,239 posts)insisted that he be forced to resign!"
We don't always agree on everything, MineralMan, but I could not agree more with you on this~! Absolutely.
betsuni
(25,486 posts)He did nothing wrong. And not once did he accuse "the establishment" to be out to get him or blame anybody.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)From September 14, 2021...
In an interview published Monday by the Massachusetts-based newspaper The Republican, Franken said he has a political action committee and is keeping his options open.
The 70-year-old noted that there have been nine public apologies from former colleagues who now believe he was pushed out too abruptly at the height of the #MeToo movement.
I wanted due process, but I had 36 colleagues and a majority leader who wouldnt give it to me, so it was impossible, the former Democratic lawmaker told the newspaper. But you do have some regrets. It was a very weird, tough situation at that moment. I love the Senate. I love the work that I did.
Read the rest at: https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/09/14/report-al-franken-mulling-another-run-at-public-office/
ificandream
(9,372 posts)Maybe the lecture tour he's doing this year is building to that. I hope so.
pandr32
(11,581 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)He was effective and unrelenting which is why Republicans wanted him gone. Plus the party never forgave him winning in that squeaker of a race. The GOP whipped up a scandal during the height of the MeToo movement and the rest is history.
A genuine loss for the Democratic Party.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)I will never forget. I doubt I will ever forgive.
Is there a list of the Senators that publicly apologize? I could consider supporting ones that have. But I will not support anyone who hasnt.
Unless attached to a Presidential candidate I love.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)The crap about Cuomo was political bullshit as well. We lost Katie Hills' seat too...which was ridiculous...and yet Matt Gaetz is still hanging on...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)so his senate vote's covered and in good hands.
And of course the Democratic Party never lost Al Franken!
He can and does use his powers to excite people from anywhere. This year we need millions of voters to the polls, and since he's not in government he's free to put his all into reminding people of all the good and important reasons to vote for us.
Go, Al!
Demovictory9
(32,454 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)DFW
(54,370 posts)It would be too strong a word to say he harbors a grudge, but he is flat out NOT interested in working with people who publicly urged him to resign for something he didn't do, especially when none of them had any solid reason to think he did. Some did it for their own ambitions, some did it out of cowardice, fearing they were missing the proverbial boat, but the fact remains that over 30 Senate Democrats put out public statements urging him to resign the Senate, despite that there was no strong evidence that he did anything offensive, beyond what contrived "evidence" that Roger Stone "provided." Some of those comments were condescending, some were outright sickening in their self-righteousness. All were very hurtful. Al LOVED being a Senator, but he just cannot bring himself to seek to serve alongside people he agrees with politically, but personally considers hypocrites. I sympathize. How can you ask someone to work alongside colleagues who, when they get close, might either pat your back, or stick a knife in it, and you really don't know which?
I had seen comments at the time, wondering why he didn't mount a more forceful defense. The simple (and obvious) answer is that HE knew the charges were bogus, and therefore thought there was no need to mount a defense. Surely if he knew they were phony, then the rest of the Democrats in the Senate would surely realize it, too (or at least ASK him!!). Instead, they suddenly adopted the Napoleonic code (the accused is guilty until proven innocent). He was blindsided, shocked, and thoroughly depressed over it. I fully understand. I can't say that I would have felt otherwise.
I am, as many on DU know, not exactly an impartial observer here, and they all know why. It is true that Al is toying with the idea of seeking public office again, but he hasn't decided what. Franni feels a FAR stronger resentment than Al does (or that he lets on, anyway), and he listens to her. Al was especially poorly treated by several Democratic Senators who all tried for the presidential nomination two years ago. They include Booker, Warren, Sanders, Harris and, of course, Gillibrand. I obviously wouldn't want any of them replaced by a Republican, but beyond that, I have no use for any of them.
So, much as WE (and most of Minnesota, I'd wager) would love to see (and hear!) Al back in the Senate, and he would love it, too, there is just no way he feels he can serve alongside the ones who coldly called for his resignation just over three years ago, and haven't had the guts to publicly apologize. I heard Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island come on Al's podcast, and publicly say he wishes Al were back in the Senate. I also know Jon Tester of Montana and (alas, former) Senator Bill Nelson of Florida have apologized to Al. If there are others who have done so publicly, I don't know who they are. Conspicuously, as I mentioned, none of the Senators who were presidential candidates have said a peep in that direction--that I know of, anyway. It's either that they 1. really believe the allegations (hint--no, they don't), or 2. are too ashamed to publicly admit how wrong they were, or 3. cynically feel the chances for their future in office are better with Al out of the picture (see the above-mentioned presidential candidates).
In short, the end result of all this is that Al will not be trying to regain his Minnesota Senate seat in the immediate future. Anything else, on the other hand, is on the table.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Many here knew he was railroaded, including myself. Al's a good guy - his absence is our loss.
ificandream
(9,372 posts)I don't know all that he went through, of course, but for him not to want to work with those who wronged him is in itself wrong. Look at, for example, Liz Cheney. Granted, she faces an uphill battle and the Repughs will be gunning for her with everything they have, but she hasn't quit and will apparently run for re-election. The only block to his being back in the Senate is upending one of the two Minnesota senators. (The earliest one can run for re-election is Amy Klobuchar in 2025. Tina Smith is in until 2027.) But isn't the House a possibility?
DFW
(54,370 posts)Not to me anyway. He mentioned governor of Minnesota, but just in passing, not something he is seriously focusing on.
Liz Cheney is a different kettle of fish. She appears to think that the majority of her Republican House colleagues have lost their minds (I can't say that I differ). Al doesn't feel that way about his former Senate colleagues. He feels they were all perfectly compos mentis--just petty, mean, and cowardly, which was something he never expected from them. His disappointment was vast, and his depression was profound. He is certainly not interested in challenging Amy Klobuchar, whom he still admires, and nor does he blame Tina Smith, who was selected to replace him. Smith was not someone whose goal it was to replace him from the beginning.
I doubt Roger Stone ever imagined in his wildest dreams that Al would actually be mobbed out of the Senate by his closest allies. He must have been rubbing his hands in glee at the sheep-like way in which so many Democratic Senators publicly called for Al's resignation. Even then, Al was prepared to fight it. The last straw to him was when the governor of Minnesota publicly announced his replacement. More than two thirds of those who publicly trashed him and called for his resignation have never made the slightest gesture of contrition. If Al were to return to the Senate, he would probably be better treated on a personal level by Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham than he would be by Maria Cantwell or Maggie Hassan, even though he hates what McConnell and Graham stand for, and supports everything that Maria Cantwell and Maggie Hassan stand for. I don't blame him for wondering how he could possibly get serious work done under those circumstances. By the way, Franni feels even stronger about the whole affair. than Al does. She would probably bar the door if she thought Al was going out to try to reconcile with the ones who stabbed him in the back, and still refuse to publicly admit--after four years!--that they were wrong to do so.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)DFW
(54,370 posts)No, it wasn't just Gillibrand. It was the ones he respected and worked closely with that hurt the most. I'm not going to go through a play by play of his mood or state of mind after the shameful actions of late 2017, but suffice it to say that he suffered some serious anguish at his traitorous treatment, and it lasted for months. The shameful actions of his close political allies will stand, no matter how many eventually apologize, and that has been precious few up to now.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)He's good enough, he's smart enough and doggone it, people like him.
But seriously, I'd love to see him back. We need him.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)He won't defeat any in Minnesota, and as much as some people dream about it, he won't beat Gillibrand in NY.
DFW
(54,370 posts)Not even Gillibrand. He's not that insensitive, and he knows that mounting a primary challenge to Gillibrand for her Senate seat would be interpreted as a grudge match, justified or not.
He does not have any credible residence in a state with a vulnerable Republican Senator. MN, NY, VA and MD are solidly Democratic in the Senate. Ergo--he's not interested. He did love being in the Senate, but that was before he was confronted with the dark side. I know much of what he went through in that first half year "after." Wounds like that take a very long time to heal--if they ever do.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Senator who did this...there was a large number of people right here who wanted him to resign...The same happens every damn time...
ificandream
(9,372 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)In his early years on SNL I had no idea how intelligent he was.
ificandream
(9,372 posts)ificandream
(9,372 posts)[link:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/593717-franken-on-senate-resignation-they-made-it-impossible-for-me-to-get-due|]
Part of what he said.
No one investigated this. No one at The Washington Post investigated it. No one at The New York Times investigated no one did any investigation of this at all. And I had 36 of my colleagues demand that I leave, and I didn't get due process, Franken said.
And it was a pretty awful experience for me and my family.