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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFirst of all, Republicans are on the defensive.
Democrats need to understand their position.
It is they that attacked our Capitol. It is they that have to lie and cover-up about their roles on January 6th.
It is they that have to explain their plots and conspiracies. It is they that tried to over-turn an election.
It is they that want to forget about January 6th and move on. It is they that are attacking Joe Biden and the Democrats, in hopes people will not notice their horrendous crimes.
It is they that are trying to whitewash and sweep under the rug their involvement and actions in regards to their seditious behavior.
It is they that pretend they have nothing to worry about.
They are on the defensive and they are scared to death that the voters will wake up and see the truth. And they will be thrown out of office in disgrace.
That is what they are afraid of.
Democrats should understand their position of strength.
lame54
(35,287 posts)Pull hard on that thread
kentuck
(111,092 posts)... the focus is off them on on the insurrectionists that attacked our Capitol only. They would like that, in my opinion.
lame54
(35,287 posts)They get away with it
Even if the next thing they say is completely contradictory
They get away with it
They finally stepped into it with LPD
They are in a rare position where they have to scramble for damage control
It would be foolish to let this opportunity pass
kentuck
(111,092 posts)...but it is not the end of the story. It cannot mask the rest of the crimes.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and so is their most effective leader in the rationalization and excuse-making
they lost central messaging, and they are royally fucked if they keep defending trump
pandr32
(11,581 posts)underpants
(182,794 posts)All over talk radio especially. Ive heard it on Beck and our local drive time shows. Everyone agrees that they were right all along EVERYONE all their liberal friends and Bill Maher.
kentuck
(111,092 posts)And the fact that Democrats were willing to follow the advice of scientists and experts while they were indulging in superstition and insane "remedies". If the virus is finally going away, they get very little credit for it. They only made it last longer.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)If we give up on masks, we'll see that fairly quickly. Apparently some around here are excited to run that experiment. AGAIN.
Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)It will never go away, but lke the other coronaviruses, its variants will cause a "flu" to vaxxed people, but could cause desth to the un-vaxxed.
certainot
(9,090 posts)it to attack local dem politicians. it doesn't matter what dems do or don't do they always get to have it both ways without challenge with the authoritarian massive capacity for denial and hypocrisy.
i heard the limbaugh replacement hemeroid bongino raving about his bodily sovereignty fromm vaccine mandates and then go right into an ad for a religious anti choice organization
Walleye
(31,017 posts)We should keep punching. No matter how delusional they get we need to stay grounded. Many of them are terrified that white people will be in the minority and people of color might start treating white people the same way they have always treated Black people. Its irrational
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)to share that - let it be heard - DRIVE THE MESSAGE HOME!!!!!
durablend
(7,460 posts)But will they? I'm not confident....
"If we start accusing them of things they'll call us mean nasty names and yell at us and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh"
ancianita
(36,053 posts)sop
(10,171 posts)the more destructive, divisive and dishonest their political rhetoric will become.
jaxexpat
(6,822 posts)How much do I think so? I'm buying up all the November straw futures I legally can. There will be a straw shortage by mid-fall because the Republicants are so desperately grasping at them.
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)gab13by13
(21,333 posts)but they own the MSM. I don't watch cable news until Nicolle comes on, but I'm betting that Trump burning and tearing up documents is already past history.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)for four years. They were happy with how their GOP elected officials continued
to white wash Trump's criminal behavior during his entire term of office.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Good grief, this should be on EVERY Democrats lips, AND writings, AND postings, and on cue cards and handy index cards that can be kept in the pocket for easy reach and quick usage.
And this message needs to be REPEATED. RELENTLESSLY. And WAY long after we think were sick of it.
An absolute MUST. Our Republican friends have been hellbent for DECADES on making sure that many American ears are CLOGGED with wax, dirt, used Qtip shreds, and GOP bullshit. So thats a helluva lot to cut through so the public can hear clearly.
We have to clear the fog of their attempts at war-making. Its hard. But we have to keep at it so the truth can break through.
kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)And Democrats to use as a crudgel over and over to destroy the repukes in the midterms and 2024.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Which is why we keep bringing it up.
This time Dems can be on the offensive using Republicans' own words against them. You can see how they're reacting. McCarthy was speed-walking through Congress today in a lame attempt to avoid reporters and their damnable questions. LOL. When he did answer it was a word salad.
January 6th is the last thing Republicans want to confront and the RNC whacked a beautiful gift into our court.
We'd be idiots not to play it. Again and again and again.
Let them squirm and sputter.
I love flop-sweat!
KS Toronado
(17,230 posts)and they know it's coming because they have no answers for the American people about FailedCoupGuy and
the Jan 6th insurrection attempting to install a king. All they have left is "legitimate political discourse"
and that isn't working out for them at all.
Picaro
(1,521 posts)I think it would be safe to say that the Republicans are reeling right now. They have no discernible platform and the only thing they have going for them is the braying of Fox News, Steve Bannon, Joe Rogan et al.
They continue to make a lot of noise but they are in a very very weak position right now. The DNC and other organizations need to be doing a lot of ads that drop the guilt for January 6 on top of their heads every time they have a chance.
I believe that there are far fewer that agree with any of the Republican garbage than you would think from listening to any news source.
The Democrats need to just beat and beat and beat them with this. They are traitors to the nation whether what they are doing actually constitutes treason in the purely legal sense it is treason nonetheless. republicans are against everything that the founding fathers were for. They have become a fascist anti-democracy party.
But, there are a lot of dumb, uninformed people out there that dont understand what is going on and will probably still vote for these losers if they are not educated.
Lets educate them where we can.
malaise
(268,980 posts)Make them pay
IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)if you hear the "liberal media" tell it.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)Every appearance in the media is an opportunity to put the GOP on the defense if we just have the will and skill o do it.
Roc2020
(1,615 posts)midterms won't go as schedule as many think. Not saying Dems will keep congress but there will shocking surprises
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)And adhere to the principle that no one is above it.
I often hear the phrase "it's okay if you're a Republican" when discussing these things, but that to me is the most defeatist statement on DU, as if they are magically able to subvert our laws and we cannot.
When they grilled Hillary over nothing, she wasn't incarcerated because she hadn't broken any laws. The hearings were a spectacle designed to bring her down politically. In a sense, they were successful, but that was a political calculation, a dirty one at that, but not a legal one.
Trump and his cohorts have openly and defiantly transgressed our laws and there is copious evidence of multiple crimes. We can see the evidence with our own eyes; it's not a secret. The Committee's investigation is a legal one, not a political spectacle like Benghazi. It aims, not to embarrass or diminish the Republicans, but rather to get to the truth regarding the law and the seditionists who broke it. The net effect should and will inflict political damage to Republicans, not because they're Republicans, but because they're crooks. Their disregard for our laws and institutions will be laid out for the whole world to see.
So yes, Democrats do happen to be in a position of strength under these circumstances, but not just politically. We have the law on our side as Americans, and as long as that still means something, we will share a victory with the Constitution.
Emile
(22,715 posts)He must know something's about to happen!
wiggs
(7,812 posts)reflecting the larger, global battle that the top 1% wages against the bottom 99%...that started decades ago. They are just using the gop brand (which really doesn't exist the same way it used to) to manipulate people who will listen. Their leaders have hollowed out party principles out of necessity, which makes them all the more dangerous....willing to take foreign money to fund elections, willing to toss traditional principles, to sacrifice personal dignity, to break laws, to lie, to run up the debt, to blackmail countries into finding dirt on political opponents, to foment hate and polarization, to toss aside teachings of their religion, and willing to defend authoritarian murderers around the world. They have nothing holding them back from committing heinous acts...and they have slowly gotten used to it. They. Don't. Care. And they found a perfect orange poster boy for what they really believe in.
The everyday, regular republican may think they are still pursuing policies of the old gop but they have been fooled. The leadership has moved on to more nefarious goals.
I'm not sure the gop position is one of defense as much as it is amoral, sociopathic, determined, unpatriotic...and they have big plans for what can be done offensively with those tools, furthering concentration of wealth and power into the hands of fewer and fewer autocrats.
kentuck
(111,092 posts)As if it was not enough to oppose the wannabe dictator, they had to join him. They felt it would give them a political advantage. They chose politics over their country. It's unforgivable.
Democrats should cut them no slack whatsoever.
They have betrayed our nation.
ENO in 2024
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uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Zorro
(15,740 posts)McConnell knows it and is trying to do damage control.
nvme
(860 posts)Learn from Bush Sr.
We change the discourse about the economy we win.
emanymton69
(124 posts)"We The People" are winning. The power brokers in Washington And New York are whistling passed the graveyard. Do not get discouraged.
Democrats Deliver. Hammer this home all the while showing the GOP for who and what they are; law breaking thugs.