Putin sponsoring Ottawa truckers?

[orangecrush]

"Canada has had about 600 troops leading a NATO battlegroup in Latvia tasked with defending against any Russian attack since 2017. Canada also has around 200 military trainers in Ukraine, which is not a NATO member.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said last week Canada was extending its training mission in Ukraine for another three years and will add another 60 trainers as part of a suite of military aid that includes night-vision goggles and armoured vests.

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Ottawa has yet to respond to Latvian calls for reinforcements from Canada and other NATO allies."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2022/2/8/1_5772678.html.


The Russian playbook is sponsoring extremists to destabilize country's.



Putin needs smacked.

[jmbar2]

1. I just posted about a hate crime against Ukrainian-Canadian owned bakery

This has got to be more Putin ratfucking

https://www.ucc.ca/2022/02/08/hate-crime-targeting-ukrainian-canadians-in-toronto/

[orangecrush]

15. Thank you

For the interesting link.

I'm not at all surprised.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Careful, I suggested Putin behind the suicide bomber in Afghanistan and I was ... ... ...

If you can believe that shit.

The suicide bomber at the airport when we were leaving Afghanistan is what I am referring to.

How could I be so IRRESPONSIBLE

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[FalloutShelter]

4. I appreciate your anger, Elliot.

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. Thanks and thanks for the heart I assume...

I was equally as angry the other day when I suggested that most Americans or many dont even know we are inches from full fascism and have to be WOKEN up to this reality and ONE WAY to maybe achieve that is have a well known dem go on MSNBC or CNN and while explaining how BAD things are and how CLOSE to full FASCISM we are the person get angry and a little heated and then accidentally (but on purpose, rehearsed) let the F word fly so they might MIGHT get national attention for it, so that maybe it could go viral and people MIGHT wake up.

But I was ASSURED this was a RIDICULOUS idea and at the same time NOBODY offered any ideas of how to wake people up.

Maybe most folks here believe we will have a 98% turnout in November because either we DO have that OR MILLIONS of voters still STILL HAVE NO CLUE how bad things actually are.

[FalloutShelter]

7. I don't understand either.

I am like a damn struck match. My hair is solidly on fire.

My pleasure on the heart! Thanks for your 🔥.

[Irish_Dem]

11. Many people are in denial.

They don't understand what is happening, or don't want to see it.

Many people cannot believe the US is under severe attack from Putin and China. And that the GOP is willingly going along with Putin to bring down the US.

The GOP will sell out the US for power and money. They gladly send their own voters to death for the sake of political rhetoric.

China will be the newest global superpower and it must secure our loss of power to assist them in this goal.

It doesn't matter if we have 100% voter turnout if the GOP controls the voting process and electors.

The current political situation mirrors pre WWII Germany.

I just keep posting facts, and fact based opinions, hoping some will see it. So keep on doing what you are doing. That is all we can do.

[Eliot Rosewater]

31. Thanks, my ANGER is directed at so called dems or progs who should know better...

Who should BY NOW understand that ALL BETS ARE OFF and that nothing is like it was 6 yrs ago, NOTHING.

NONE of the rules of decorum apply, for instance, not anymore. We MUST do anything possible to prevent November from being what we know it will be otherwise.

And that is few or NO elections lost in red states by cons being certified. That all of them will not be certified because they will claim voter fraud. This WILL happen, so how we prepare for that I dont fucking know.

ps. thanks for the hearts

[Irish_Dem]

32. All we can do is keep speaking out.

Yes so much is riding on our next elections.

I don't know if democracy will hold or not.
I truly don't.

Churchill had a terrible time convincing his colleagues and FDR that Hitler was a real threat. Even the European capitals falling like dominos didn't really see the threat at first and aligned with Hitler. Even when the storm troopers marched in. British parliament members wanted to make a deal with Hitler even after Hitler invaded Poland, France and other European countries.

Churchill didn't give up and just kept speaking out. Then others finally saw he was 100% correct.

[radius777]

44. +1. The West's naivete regarding Hitler

mirrors our approach to Putin, who is an existential threat to liberal democracy and is actively waging war against us.

Putin got away with stealing Crimea and installing Trump - and has become emboldened.

We should be expanding and strengthening NATO, supporting pro-Western movements and countering Russian cyberwarfare. Thugs like Putin only understand dominance, and we should be forcing him into a subordinate and weakened position. Simply ignoring and/or appeasing him is not an option... it's a zero sum game.

[Irish_Dem]

45. It's not just Putin, it is Beijing as well.

Probably a few other countries getting in their licks too.

China will be a 21st century superpower and sooner than we think.

Western democracies get in the way of their plans, so we are being greatly weakened with the planned chaos and division.

Yes we need to face this reality and take some steps to strengthen our national security situation. But with the GOP, there is little unity on anything.

[radius777]

46. Agree. Both Putin and Xi

are an existential threat to the West, as they have the power and will to destroy us, and we largely have our heads in the sand.

It's not just the GOP, but also the anti-Dem left who are pro-Putin.

[Irish_Dem]

48. Putin grabbed a big chunk of the US and never fired a shot.

He is an evil genius.

Taking the US has been like taking candy from a baby.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Sometimes you have to wait for everyone else to catch up.

It is a thankless and dangerous job to be out front on issues.

Just keep doing what you are doing.

[orangecrush]

17. Thanks

Continue speaking truth.

[underpants]

3. The audience is so easily manipulated

As we’ve all watched over the last few years.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Of course it is. This has Putin's fingerprints all over it.

Basic KGB tactics.

Putin is going to bring down Western democracies.

He is making democracy look like a foolish, ridiculous form of government.

And people living in the democracies look stupid and silly.

[Bev54]

16. Yes and one of the most prolific tweeters in support of Ottawa truckers goes by

EU Citizen and claims to be in Vancouver BC, but after some investigation by a Russian troll hunter in the US who has discovered it is unlikely anyone in Vancouver and who promotes all things Putin and Russia, often in the Russian language over the past 10 years. There is no doubt Russian interference but they also know how to dupe the stupid in our societies who will follow them over the cliff.

[Irish_Dem]

22. The Russian military was said to be heavily involved in the US 2016 election.

Doing the same activity you describe.

All of the propaganda and manipulation of public opinion is much cheaper than actual combat.

[Bev54]

25. Yes there is a lot of similarities to what they were doing on social media

during the 2016 election campaign and what is going on now. Try telling that to the idiots that have jumped down the rabbit hole.

[Irish_Dem]

29. I don't know why people cannot see this.

It is so obvious, and so many facts to support it.

[orangecrush]

20. Let them go to Russia

.and honk their horns in downtown Moscow, and see how that works out.

[Irish_Dem]

30. This is one of the points Putin is making.

"Democracy is foolish" because people are allowed to destroy the country with destructive behavior.

Putin is ridiculing and mocking democracy, making us look silly and ridiculous.

China wants us to be seen this way too.

Putin is having fun with us.

[orangecrush]

34. He won't be having fun

When he has to explain to his oligarch bosseswhy they didn't get their pipeline.

[Irish_Dem]

36. He is said to be one of the richest men in the world.

We know he is cruel.

Maybe he doesn't care about his oligarchs.

But they could get tired of him.

[orangecrush]

37. Bigger fish

Might eat him.

[Irish_Dem]

38. He is a very big fish and carries a lot of poison for his enemies.

And also a lot of windows in tall buildings.

[orangecrush]

39. He's a puppet

Just like Trump.

Just my opinion.

[Irish_Dem]

43. I won't disagree. Hard to tell who uses who.

Lately I have been thinking Beijing may be pulling Moscow's strings somewhat.

But yes the global oligarchy calls a lot of shots.

[GoCubsGo]

9. Yes, with tons of help from his US right-wing allies.

Biden needs to cut off their bank accounts, as well.

[Bev54]

18. Canada may have to declare this trucker group as a terrorist group so they can

cut out all their funding like they did with Proud Boys and other RW extremists.

[orangecrush]

21. Good point.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

10. Who is surprised by this?

Putin supported TFG and others over the years. This is another way for Putin to cause problems

[orangecrush]

23. Not I

Not at all.

[pandr32]

12. Agreed and good on you for saying so.

We have a real problem. Too many people fall for the fake populism. Even here.

[orangecrush]

24. Thanks

[pandr32]

27. Back at ya

[budkin]

13. Russian troll farms are working hard online for sure

Their numbers have been WAY up recently on all social media platforms "supporting" the truckers.

[Wounded Bear]

14. Certainly possible. It follows his playbook...nt

[prodigitalson]

19. And this will be the tactic in cities where tfg is indicted. nt

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216333103

[orangecrush]

26. Which is why

Prosecutors have asked for F.B.I. assistance.

[rockfordfile]

28. More reason for Canada to arrest those far-right extremists.

[CottonBear]

33. See my recent post about Russian disinformation RE: trucker protests:

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16325195

[orangecrush]

35. Thanks

I thought so, this confirms it.

[CottonBear]

41. The MSM is not reporting on the foreign source/origin of the social media messaging.

It is pure disinformation and propaganda to sow chaos in our democratic societies.

[CottonBear]

42. More info on the foreign Facebook organizers:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[orangecrush]

47. Thanks again

For the documentation.

[iemanja]

40. Your link doesn't work

I'd like to see what the article says about Russia paying the Canadian truckers.