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uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 01:21 AM Feb 2022

Spain Circa 1936. For all those who think it can't happen in America

After the left won the elections of 1936, the extreme right in Spain started acting a damn fool and attempted a coup ...

Labor unrest was widespread in the early 1930s, and the election of February 16, 1936, brought to power a leftist Popular Front government. Fascist and extreme-right forces responded in July 1936 with an army mutiny and coup attempt that expanded into a civil war.


https://www.britannica.com/event/Spanish-Civil-War#:~:text=Labor%20unrest%20was%20widespread%20in%20the%20early%201930s%2C%20and%20the%20election%20of%20February%2016%2C%201936%2C%20brought%20to%20power%20a%20leftist%20Popular%20Front%20government.%20Fascist%20and%20extreme%2Dright%20forces%20responded%20in%20July%201936%20with%20an%20army%20mutiny%20and%20coup%20attempt%20that%20expanded%20into%20a%20civil%20war.

And ***BEFORE*** The civil war and after the planning of a coup had happened?

Yeah, Spain's leftist republican government did not go all out putting the coup assholes in jail.

Dammit, they even left some of the coup plotters in charge !!!

... However, government actions were not as thorough as they might have been, and warnings by the Director of Security and other figures were not acted upon.[83]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War#:~:text=However%2C%20government%20actions%20were%20not%20as%20thorough%20as%20they%20might%20have%20been%2C%20and%20warnings%20by%20the%20Director%20of%20Security%20and%20other%20figures%20were%20not%20acted%20upon.%5B83%5D

Oh, there's no Fascist military to to support Benedict Donald's civil war in North America like the extreme right in Spain had from Fascist in Europe?

Benedict Donald doesn't need fascist military support when he can go to red state governors who'll support him with troops and material like

Texas Greg Abbot - He (Biden) is not your Commander In Chief

Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt - Troops don't have to be vaccinated

and most likely other red state asshole governors who think they have a snowballs chance in hell of winning a civil war.

I'm sure at the time Spain's Republican Coalition (which were the leftist) didn't think the Nationalist (the Fascist assholes) had enough to win anything and at first the nationalist did not ... at first.

You know Spain's story, 3 generations of a dictatorship under their version of a smart Trump named Franco ... 3 generations.

Lets study history and not repeat the bad parts of it

Informing the informers

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Spain Circa 1936. For all those who think it can't happen in America (Original Post) uponit7771 Feb 2022 OP
KnR Hekate Feb 2022 #1
K & R Nevilledog Feb 2022 #2
I still despise John Paul for canonizing burrowowl Feb 2022 #3
+1, Franco's homies killed a lot of the left in Spain. I fear the same could happen here with rabid uponit7771 Feb 2022 #5
When the Spanish left wasn't busy killing each other, that is DFW Feb 2022 #7
+1, I just read this part too. The left in Spain never came together ... rife for a take over by uponit7771 Feb 2022 #10
Yup, They did not have to divide and conquer. The left did it for them... I'm curious though.. mitch96 Feb 2022 #15
Opus Dei is one very organized, evil organization DFW Feb 2022 #8
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2022 #4
K&R! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #6
I used to live in Franco's Spain DFW Feb 2022 #9
WOW !! Even to the end? I think I was reading Franco was more accepted in the end because uponit7771 Feb 2022 #11
Toward the end, he started to face reality DFW Feb 2022 #19
I don't know how to explain this more clearly... brooklynite Feb 2022 #12
We're closer to post coup attempt Spain than we should be and I don't trust DeathSentence, Abbot or uponit7771 Feb 2022 #13
That's the only thing that stopped Trump's coup attempt Johnny2X2X Feb 2022 #14
"their ideas are no longer popular enough" 👈🏾 THIS !! I don't think people understand how rabid uponit7771 Feb 2022 #17
Unfortunately, how I see it playing out... Johnny2X2X Feb 2022 #18
kicking.... If they gain power in 2022-2024 there will be death squads. nt Hotler Feb 2022 #16

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
5. +1, Franco's homies killed a lot of the left in Spain. I fear the same could happen here with rabid
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 03:44 AM
Feb 2022

... right

DFW

(54,447 posts)
7. When the Spanish left wasn't busy killing each other, that is
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:11 AM
Feb 2022

The Spanish left was so fractured, they never united against the common fascist enemy, and made it a lot easier for the nationalists to achieve victory than it ever should have been.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
10. +1, I just read this part too. The left in Spain never came together ... rife for a take over by
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:06 AM
Feb 2022

... violent means.

I don't think US left is as near as fractured as they are and there is some US center votes that wont stand for Putin's Whore attacking America

mitch96

(13,929 posts)
15. Yup, They did not have to divide and conquer. The left did it for them... I'm curious though..
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:24 AM
Feb 2022

How many of tRumps play soldiers would take a bullet for him? Lose a leg/arm? How about pooping in a bag for the rest of their life?
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DFW

(54,447 posts)
8. Opus Dei is one very organized, evil organization
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:14 AM
Feb 2022

They are still very much around, and, if some reports are accurate, have either members or associates on our Supreme Court.

DFW

(54,447 posts)
9. I used to live in Franco's Spain
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:18 AM
Feb 2022

The same inferiority-complex-driven smug nationalism of the Falange is very visible in today’s Trumpistan.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
11. WOW !! Even to the end? I think I was reading Franco was more accepted in the end because
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:07 AM
Feb 2022

... he did eventually move towards a constitutional monarchy or was that just his successor?

tia

DFW

(54,447 posts)
19. Toward the end, he started to face reality
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 05:24 AM
Feb 2022

That started just barely when I was there. I was 17 when I moved back to the USA. That was 1969. Franco died in 1975. Toward the end, he told Juan Carlos, « you will be able to do things I never could do. » Franco realized that an old dictator who was a relic from an era of fascist dictators could never lead a country into a new era whose mentality had moved in from his own. A survivor, he craftily moved on from being a mere vassal of his original benefactors (Hitler and Mussolini) and bent with the wind. He remained the old fascist, but was aware enough to realize that his country would not.

brooklynite

(94,782 posts)
12. I don't know how to explain this more clearly...
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:08 AM
Feb 2022

This is NOT pre-war Spain. The political dynamics and the strength of the Government are completely different. The US military is loyal to the Constitution and civilian leadership.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
13. We're closer to post coup attempt Spain than we should be and I don't trust DeathSentence, Abbot or
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:15 AM
Feb 2022

... Stitt for sound rational reason.

Oh, and the supreme court wont stay Alabama's racist shit as anti democracy move because its too close to an election people are speculating.

That's even a step closer to Spain seeing all MAGA has to do is time their anti democracy measures and bam.

It CAN happen here.

Johnny2X2X

(19,156 posts)
14. That's the only thing that stopped Trump's coup attempt
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:20 AM
Feb 2022

He assumed he was commander in chief so the military would have to do what he said, at the end he realized that wasn't the case so he tried to replace them, but it was too late.

And 2024, the military answers to the sitting President, Joe Biden.

But this isn't over with 1 or 2 more elections, the Republican Party is hellbent on ending our Democracy because their ideas are no longer popular enough to be implemented in a Democratic System.

And there is a bloodlust among Trump supporters that I don't think the mainstream media appreciates, there are millions of Trump fanatics who want nothing more than to see their neighborhood liberals, and Democratic leaders in Washington hung from trees in the public square. The will for mass killings is at a frenzy.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
17. "their ideas are no longer popular enough" 👈🏾 THIS !! I don't think people understand how rabid
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:09 PM
Feb 2022

... people act when they think their lives are going away and the GQP minions have been told that's whats going to happen by racist like Trump and Carlson and other white supremacist.

There's a guy with a book at claiming the GQP currently has all the hall marks of a group of people who will start a civil war because they were once in power and can't gain it back.

The GQP has won the pop prez vote one ONCE since the 80s !!

and shit, that was razor slim thin with tons of voter suppression behind it in Ohio

Johnny2X2X

(19,156 posts)
18. Unfortunately, how I see it playing out...
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:21 PM
Feb 2022

The Republicans will actually steal an election, and then when Dems protest and pitch a fit, they'll claim those Dems are the same at the 1/6 insurrectionists.

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