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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSpain Circa 1936. For all those who think it can't happen in America
After the left won the elections of 1936, the extreme right in Spain started acting a damn fool and attempted a coup ...
Labor unrest was widespread in the early 1930s, and the election of February 16, 1936, brought to power a leftist Popular Front government. Fascist and extreme-right forces responded in July 1936 with an army mutiny and coup attempt that expanded into a civil war.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Spanish-Civil-War#:~:text=Labor%20unrest%20was%20widespread%20in%20the%20early%201930s%2C%20and%20the%20election%20of%20February%2016%2C%201936%2C%20brought%20to%20power%20a%20leftist%20Popular%20Front%20government.%20Fascist%20and%20extreme%2Dright%20forces%20responded%20in%20July%201936%20with%20an%20army%20mutiny%20and%20coup%20attempt%20that%20expanded%20into%20a%20civil%20war.
And ***BEFORE*** The civil war and after the planning of a coup had happened?
Yeah, Spain's leftist republican government did not go all out putting the coup assholes in jail.
Dammit, they even left some of the coup plotters in charge !!!
... However, government actions were not as thorough as they might have been, and warnings by the Director of Security and other figures were not acted upon.[83]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War#:~:text=However%2C%20government%20actions%20were%20not%20as%20thorough%20as%20they%20might%20have%20been%2C%20and%20warnings%20by%20the%20Director%20of%20Security%20and%20other%20figures%20were%20not%20acted%20upon.%5B83%5D
Oh, there's no Fascist military to to support Benedict Donald's civil war in North America like the extreme right in Spain had from Fascist in Europe?
Benedict Donald doesn't need fascist military support when he can go to red state governors who'll support him with troops and material like
Texas Greg Abbot - He (Biden) is not your Commander In Chief
Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt - Troops don't have to be vaccinated
and most likely other red state asshole governors who think they have a snowballs chance in hell of winning a civil war.
I'm sure at the time Spain's Republican Coalition (which were the leftist) didn't think the Nationalist (the Fascist assholes) had enough to win anything and at first the nationalist did not ... at first.
You know Spain's story, 3 generations of a dictatorship under their version of a smart Trump named Franco ... 3 generations.
Lets study history and not repeat the bad parts of it
Informing the informers
Nevilledog
(51,213 posts)burrowowl
(17,653 posts)the founder of Opus Dei a buddy of Franco.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... right
DFW
(54,447 posts)The Spanish left was so fractured, they never united against the common fascist enemy, and made it a lot easier for the nationalists to achieve victory than it ever should have been.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... violent means.
I don't think US left is as near as fractured as they are and there is some US center votes that wont stand for Putin's Whore attacking America
mitch96
(13,929 posts)How many of tRumps play soldiers would take a bullet for him? Lose a leg/arm? How about pooping in a bag for the rest of their life?
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DFW
(54,447 posts)They are still very much around, and, if some reports are accurate, have either members or associates on our Supreme Court.
SunSeeker
(51,740 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)DFW
(54,447 posts)The same inferiority-complex-driven smug nationalism of the Falange is very visible in todays Trumpistan.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... he did eventually move towards a constitutional monarchy or was that just his successor?
tia
DFW
(54,447 posts)That started just barely when I was there. I was 17 when I moved back to the USA. That was 1969. Franco died in 1975. Toward the end, he told Juan Carlos, « you will be able to do things I never could do. » Franco realized that an old dictator who was a relic from an era of fascist dictators could never lead a country into a new era whose mentality had moved in from his own. A survivor, he craftily moved on from being a mere vassal of his original benefactors (Hitler and Mussolini) and bent with the wind. He remained the old fascist, but was aware enough to realize that his country would not.
brooklynite
(94,782 posts)This is NOT pre-war Spain. The political dynamics and the strength of the Government are completely different. The US military is loyal to the Constitution and civilian leadership.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... Stitt for sound rational reason.
Oh, and the supreme court wont stay Alabama's racist shit as anti democracy move because its too close to an election people are speculating.
That's even a step closer to Spain seeing all MAGA has to do is time their anti democracy measures and bam.
It CAN happen here.
Johnny2X2X
(19,156 posts)He assumed he was commander in chief so the military would have to do what he said, at the end he realized that wasn't the case so he tried to replace them, but it was too late.
And 2024, the military answers to the sitting President, Joe Biden.
But this isn't over with 1 or 2 more elections, the Republican Party is hellbent on ending our Democracy because their ideas are no longer popular enough to be implemented in a Democratic System.
And there is a bloodlust among Trump supporters that I don't think the mainstream media appreciates, there are millions of Trump fanatics who want nothing more than to see their neighborhood liberals, and Democratic leaders in Washington hung from trees in the public square. The will for mass killings is at a frenzy.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... people act when they think their lives are going away and the GQP minions have been told that's whats going to happen by racist like Trump and Carlson and other white supremacist.
There's a guy with a book at claiming the GQP currently has all the hall marks of a group of people who will start a civil war because they were once in power and can't gain it back.
The GQP has won the pop prez vote one ONCE since the 80s !!
and shit, that was razor slim thin with tons of voter suppression behind it in Ohio
Johnny2X2X
(19,156 posts)The Republicans will actually steal an election, and then when Dems protest and pitch a fit, they'll claim those Dems are the same at the 1/6 insurrectionists.