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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Georgia investigation: Trump's point man/secretary/errand boy, is a big, big, target.
For months I have been focused on Meadow's for good reasons. He was involved in everything. He did what ever Trump told him to do.
In late December, Meadow's made a unexpected visit to Georgia.
Meadow's trip set in motion a series of meetings, phone calls, which ended on Jan. 2nd with trump's infamous, criminal phone call to the SOS of Georgia, a recorded phone call. Meadow's kicked off Trump's phone call by introducing the 8 people involved in the call.
When Meadow's arrived in Georgia, he was barred by the office of SOS from entering the room where absentee ballots were being counted. Meadow's later pressed Georgia officials to give him access to private voter information. It was denied.
Meadow's gathered contact information form top Georgia officials. He turned that information over to Trump. The next day Trump starting calling them, pressuring them to find fraud.
Trump's infamous phone call was the last of 18 phone calls attempted to the office of the SOS.
57 minutes into Trump's phone call, Meadow's pressured the counsel for The SOS to give Trump voter data so they could investigate for fraud. Meadow's was told it's against state law. Meadow's pressured the counsel again.
Pay attention to the Georgia election. A special grand jury is being put in place this May. I have no doubt Meadow's is going to be a big target. The AG heading the investigating seems confident she can prove crimes were committed under Georgia state law. Everyone involved in Trump's infamous phone call will be subpoenaed by the grand jury.
LakeVermilion
(1,040 posts)Maybe...
calimary
(81,238 posts)of those trump phone calls.
And knowing the power he was willing to use while still occupying the Oval Office.
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)I was elected to borough council back in the 70's when I was a whipper snapper. My claim to fame was that I took on the mafia-like family that ran our town who wanted to strip coal on our pristine watershed and build a coal cleaning plant in a flood plain. My town is like 3,000 people and I spent many sleepless nights. A friend of mine argued at a hearing and shot down all of the coal people's data.
My friend told me that he got death threats, that they were going to kill him and his family. The coal strippers always brought a contingent of goons to the council meeting and they sat right behind me. We won, we protected our water, no coal cleaning plant, so I can imagine the pressure that Trump put on people because I got a small taste of it.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Because he wont give up, WE CANT GIVE UP!!!!
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,956 posts)until his dying day.
calimary
(81,238 posts)His ego wont let him fade into the background like all the other ex-presidents have (especially the ones who were driven by out after only one term).
Hes gotta be the center of attention everywhere. At all times. With and from everybody. My guess is its some deep-seated personality flaw or thereabouts. Im no shrink but this is one SERIOUSLY screwed-up individual. I bet therell eventually be libraries full of books written just about the inner demons of the donald.
Ive already said this elsewhere here: we are not going to be rid of him. Not anytime soon. First, because he simply refuses to go away, or fade away gracefully like so many other ex-presidents have (both those who didnt make it past one term and others who did but recognized distinguished retirement status when it was their time to be escorted back out to the private sector).
Hes too much of an attention whore to fade away gracefully. Hes too prideful and has spent too much of his snakey life to accept the solid, provable reality of his own defeat. Hes spent too many decades building this facade and myth of invincibility (I never lose) to step to the side now, even after the most high-level, most intensely covered, and most public loss.
Nope. He HAS TO try to spin it or bend it to his wishes to keep being perceived as a life-long never-failed undefeated demigod. No matter how many lies hes told or how many people hes destroyed along the way.
I wish hed retire to Mar-a-Lago and have somebody write his books for him. He wont do that. Especially after hes had an actual taste of it (however dubious because he cheated) and is desperately hungry for more.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,956 posts)Plus, he is making big-time bank off of this Big Lie B.S.
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)NJCher
(35,662 posts)Its prison for him if he does and he knows it.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Walleye
(31,017 posts)It was pretty funny because the ringtone played the first few notes of Hail to the Chief and he quickly I dismissed the call. That was probably pretty smart on his part
kairos12
(12,858 posts)Walleye
(31,017 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)No joke. She's got these traitors. I'm more focused on GA than I am the 1/6 Committee
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Everything is tied to the larger conspiracy.
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)The second case I'm watching - is AG James (NY). Out of that - Bragg can form a criminal case.
Also - a GOP President can't pardon folks for state convictions.
I would love nothing more than to see some of Trump's inner circle in the Georgia Penal System.
lastlib
(23,224 posts)I would prefer a VERY harsh one (a gulag would please me), but I'll take whatever we can get.
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)That's Aubery's one murder tried to enter a plea deal- it would have taken him out of the Georgia prison system.
Dan
(3,554 posts)Southern care, prison care is probably pretty bad.
But, maybe Trump might end up on a chain gang.
ShazzieB
(16,389 posts)But there are other forms of prison slave labor. Maybe he could make license plates.
Dan
(3,554 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Also, I totally didnt know about Meadows *major* role in this travesty hes a very special kind of craven sad sack, and thanks to this post, I now have a better idea of how scared and paralyzed this pitiful little scumbucket must be every second/every day, and I am LOVIN IT!!!
NJCher
(35,662 posts)I like to think of them as I sink into my comfy, warm, cozy bed at night. I think how nice it is that I can get up the next day and do what I want to. I dont have to be flying around to meet with investigators whose questioning might put me in a cell with five other other people and with only an inch thick mattress in which to sleep.
The truth of the matter is that their every day and night is a living hell for them. Their hopes for an end to the threat via a Republican victory in the senate and house means little when there are looming state prosecutions.
RID. Rest in distress.
GB_RN
(2,350 posts)But so does "Lying Lindsey" Graham (R-Fabulous!) for his illegal phone call to Georgia's Secretary of State, Brad "I Suppress the Black Vote" Raffensperger (R-Not A Hero).
NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)justice isn't going away UNLESS the Reputinicans can steal every branch of the government, that concerns me.
ECL213
(212 posts)Glorfindel
(9,729 posts)"kill the apostrophe." It is pretty much always misused nowadays.
https://www.killtheapostrophe.com/
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lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I tried to restrain myself, but here I am, agreeing with you.
While reading, I spent most of my attention looking for an apostrophe used correctly.
To be fair though, some stupid spell-check programs do that. They also cannot distinguish between words such as well and we'll, I'll and ill, etc. Stupid programs.
soldierant
(6,857 posts)niyad
(113,284 posts)wnylib
(21,447 posts)than I do in my original text. Sometimes it connects two words next to each other to make a new word that is meaningless in context.
Pinback
(12,154 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)The difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit matters. Fani knows her shit, and Mark Meadow, you're a shit.
CNN's Sara Murray looks at Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani T. Willis' probe investigating Donald Trump's efforts to overturn Georgia's election results.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)I better lawyer up, Take the 5th.
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)I don't write very well, so I am not someone who can teach anyone how to be a good writer, it was just an observation, maybe because it was used so many times that it caught the Felix Unger in us...
And as I said, it was a great post, your observations on Meadows' conduct is right on target.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Lol!
ECL213
(212 posts)I was just making a joke. I assumed it was a spell-check error. It always insists I'm trying to say He'll, and it drives me crazy.
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)Meadows...
I felt like Felix Unger (The Odd Couple) there for a moment...
Having said all that, the post is excellent...
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Just kidding.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)gab13by13
(21,323 posts)He was the go between.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)turbinetree
(24,695 posts)to eventually use your tactic to blackmail the voters of Georgia...that kicked your boss ass down the street and elected two men to be senators....and some food for thought Meadows you and your gang should think of this law for bed time stories...here I will make it real simple.....Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO)
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/content/rico-act.html
Manfred Arcane
(59 posts)Frances Watson is not an elected official, just a GA state employee. I've long wondered how Trump even got her phone number. But now it is clear that Meadows met with Frances Watson on Dec. 22nd in GA the day before this phone call occurred.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)All of these phone calls, meetings, will be investigated by the special grand jury. The AG in Georgia has a very good case. The evidence is documented, recorded, can be easily verified through witnesses testimony. You do not have to be Columbo to figure this case out.
badgolfer
(244 posts)The Freedom Caucus was formed by Meadows, Jordan, and Gov DeSantis to stymie Obama's agenda.
I'm betting these three are major forces behind the January 6 insurrection.
housecat
(3,121 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)We don't know what Garland is up to when it comes to the contempt charge.
housecat
(3,121 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Garland is very secretive and he doesn't appear on TV too often. That's testing our patience. We don't know what's going on. I feel your agony, believe me. We have no choice but to be patient.
CaptainTruth
(6,589 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)He is involved in the GA case.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Garland is sneaky.
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)Botany
(70,501 posts)TFG, "Big things are going to be happening on January 6th."
Does Fani look like she is playing around?
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)This phone call where DT said on tape that he needed 11,780 votes happened over a year ago.... yet a grand jury cannot be empaneled until... May?
Its easy to think that several actionable items of law enforcement by several agencies are being slow walked either avoid being the 1st one to take action against DT and face the mean statements that would naturally follow or in hopes that the J6 committee does it 1st...
Emile
(22,707 posts)me of a crime boss.
nvme
(860 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(5,126 posts)PLEASE PLEASE tell me that we will get to see that smug face on the perp walk! PLEASE!
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)and state level for the kind of things that are supported by the private business organizations.