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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:21 AM Feb 2022

The Georgia investigation: Trump's point man/secretary/errand boy, is a big, big, target.

For months I have been focused on Meadow's for good reasons. He was involved in everything. He did what ever Trump told him to do.

In late December, Meadow's made a unexpected visit to Georgia.

Meadow's trip set in motion a series of meetings, phone calls, which ended on Jan. 2nd with trump's infamous, criminal phone call to the SOS of Georgia, a recorded phone call. Meadow's kicked off Trump's phone call by introducing the 8 people involved in the call.

When Meadow's arrived in Georgia, he was barred by the office of SOS from entering the room where absentee ballots were being counted. Meadow's later pressed Georgia officials to give him access to private voter information. It was denied.

Meadow's gathered contact information form top Georgia officials. He turned that information over to Trump. The next day Trump starting calling them, pressuring them to find fraud.

Trump's infamous phone call was the last of 18 phone calls attempted to the office of the SOS.

57 minutes into Trump's phone call, Meadow's pressured the counsel for The SOS to give Trump voter data so they could investigate for fraud. Meadow's was told it's against state law. Meadow's pressured the counsel again.

Pay attention to the Georgia election. A special grand jury is being put in place this May. I have no doubt Meadow's is going to be a big target. The AG heading the investigating seems confident she can prove crimes were committed under Georgia state law. Everyone involved in Trump's infamous phone call will be subpoenaed by the grand jury.

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The Georgia investigation: Trump's point man/secretary/errand boy, is a big, big, target. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Feb 2022 OP
Boom! LakeVermilion Feb 2022 #1
I can't imagine what it must have been like to be on the receiving end calimary Feb 2022 #2
Absolutely, a very astute observation. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #11
And he doesn't give up. We're STILL seeing that TODAY. calimary Feb 2022 #14
Trump the POS will be a troublemaker and a thorn in America's side Prof. Toru Tanaka Feb 2022 #48
I think you're right, Professor. calimary Feb 2022 #50
Good points and I agree. Prof. Toru Tanaka Feb 2022 #51
Agree with you and the Professor Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #57
He can't give up, either NJCher Feb 2022 #60
Even Gov. Kemp was discontented with Trump's harassment. nt Ilsa Feb 2022 #56
I remember Arizona's Secretary of State, I think it was, rejecting a phone call from Trump Walleye Feb 2022 #3
Actually, the Guv did this. kairos12 Feb 2022 #6
That's right. Thanks for the clarification. A very wise move on his part Walleye Feb 2022 #8
In D.A. Willis I trust JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #4
The Georgia case could be a precursor to Garlands federal investigation. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #24
ITA JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #31
I don't care what penal system they wind up in, as long as they're in one. lastlib Feb 2022 #35
Georgia's is rough JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #37
There are different standards of prison care, based on the State where you are imprisoned. Dan Feb 2022 #38
Pretty sure chain gangs don't exist anymore. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #53
I suspect that they do, just under a different name.... Dan Feb 2022 #55
Many thanks for this great summation/recap, fightfor!! Leghorn21 Feb 2022 #5
how scared and paralyzed NJCher Feb 2022 #62
It's Been Pointed Out Elsewhere That Not Only Does Meadows Have Legal Exposure... GB_RN Feb 2022 #7
The amount of wood being added daily to the SlobFather's bonfire is incredible. This pursuit for NoMoreRepugs Feb 2022 #9
apostrophes matter ECL213 Feb 2022 #10
I have almost reached the point where I agree with George Bernard Shaw Glorfindel Feb 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author GB_RN Feb 2022 #20
It grates on me over and over in that OP. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #15
Yes gristy Feb 2022 #17
Thank you! niyad Feb 2022 #22
There are reasons why it's often called "autocorrupt." soldierant Feb 2022 #45
Sadly true. niyad Feb 2022 #47
Yes, my autocorrect makes more mistakes wnylib Feb 2022 #59
Yes, apostrophe's do matter. Pinback Feb 2022 #26
Oh you bastard!!!! I see what you did there.... ;-) Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #41
Agreed. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #28
Oh no, I have been caught. It's apostrophegate fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #33
I hope you are not offended, don't lawyer up, no need to... Escurumbele Feb 2022 #40
I'm not offended, I did get carried away with check spelling. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #43
s'hame, s'hame, s'hame ECL213 Feb 2022 #64
I am glad I was not the only one bothered by the misuse of the apostrophe. Escurumbele Feb 2022 #39
What's an apostrophe? fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #44
That's the French spelling...... Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #42
Meadows was one of the people who kept Trump's hands clean. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #12
Not really - gave phone numbers to Turd, who immediately made illegal calls. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #16
So Meadows you intentionally made trying to be a shake down artist for your criminal boss turbinetree Feb 2022 #18
And there's this call to GA investigator Frances Watson... Manfred Arcane Feb 2022 #19
That is correct. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #23
Freedom Caucus badgolfer Feb 2022 #21
All the more reason to act on his refusal to appear before the committee housecat Feb 2022 #25
Not so fast. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #29
What do you think Garland is waiting for? Patience is not my strong suit. housecat Feb 2022 #49
Investigations like this take a long time. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #54
Good analysis! Meadows is neck deep in Trump's cesspool. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #27
Maybe that is why Garland has not acted on Meadows yet? kentuck Feb 2022 #30
Could be, nobody knows. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #36
Good. These criminals need to be held accountable Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #32
They also have tape of TFG telling the counsel for Georgia's Sec. of State: Botany Feb 2022 #34
TY empedocles Feb 2022 #61
My Question... Snackshack Feb 2022 #46
This is what TFG did, he had his flunkies do his dirty work. Reminds Emile Feb 2022 #52
I am so impatient. nvme Feb 2022 #58
Be still my heart! OldBaldy1701E Feb 2022 #63
Turns my stomach knowing that this battle ramming process goes on at the local Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #65

calimary

(81,238 posts)
2. I can't imagine what it must have been like to be on the receiving end
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:27 AM
Feb 2022

of those trump phone calls.

And knowing the power he was willing to use while still occupying the Oval Office.

gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
11. Absolutely, a very astute observation.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:29 AM
Feb 2022

I was elected to borough council back in the 70's when I was a whipper snapper. My claim to fame was that I took on the mafia-like family that ran our town who wanted to strip coal on our pristine watershed and build a coal cleaning plant in a flood plain. My town is like 3,000 people and I spent many sleepless nights. A friend of mine argued at a hearing and shot down all of the coal people's data.
My friend told me that he got death threats, that they were going to kill him and his family. The coal strippers always brought a contingent of goons to the council meeting and they sat right behind me. We won, we protected our water, no coal cleaning plant, so I can imagine the pressure that Trump put on people because I got a small taste of it.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
14. And he doesn't give up. We're STILL seeing that TODAY.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:34 AM
Feb 2022

Because he won’t give up, WE CAN’T GIVE UP!!!!

calimary

(81,238 posts)
50. I think you're right, Professor.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 06:55 PM
Feb 2022

His ego won’t let him fade into the background like all the other ex-presidents have (especially the ones who were driven by out after only one term).

He’s gotta be the center of attention everywhere. At all times. With and from everybody. My guess is it’s some deep-seated personality flaw or thereabouts. I’m no shrink but this is one SERIOUSLY screwed-up individual. I bet there’ll eventually be libraries full of books written just about the inner demons of the donald.

I’ve already said this elsewhere here: we are not going to be rid of him. Not anytime soon. First, because he simply refuses to go away, or fade away gracefully like so many other ex-presidents have (both those who didn’t make it past one term and others who did but recognized distinguished retirement status when it was their time to be escorted back out to the private sector).

He’s too much of an attention whore to fade away gracefully. He’s too prideful and has spent too much of his snakey life to accept the solid, provable reality of his own defeat. He’s spent too many decades building this facade and myth of invincibility (“I never lose”) to step to the side now, even after the most high-level, most intensely covered, and most public loss.

Nope. He HAS TO try to spin it or bend it to his wishes to keep being perceived as a life-long never-failed undefeated demigod. No matter how many lies he’s told or how many people he’s destroyed along the way.

I wish he’d retire to Mar-a-Lago and have somebody write his books for him. He won’t do that. Especially after he’s had an actual taste of it (however dubious because he cheated) and is desperately hungry for more.

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
3. I remember Arizona's Secretary of State, I think it was, rejecting a phone call from Trump
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:45 AM
Feb 2022

It was pretty funny because the ringtone played the first few notes of “Hail to the Chief” and he quickly I dismissed the call. That was probably pretty smart on his part

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
24. The Georgia case could be a precursor to Garlands federal investigation.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:08 PM
Feb 2022

Everything is tied to the larger conspiracy.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
31. ITA
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:32 PM
Feb 2022

The second case I'm watching - is AG James (NY). Out of that - Bragg can form a criminal case.

Also - a GOP President can't pardon folks for state convictions.

I would love nothing more than to see some of Trump's inner circle in the Georgia Penal System.

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
35. I don't care what penal system they wind up in, as long as they're in one.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:38 PM
Feb 2022

I would prefer a VERY harsh one (a gulag would please me), but I'll take whatever we can get.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
37. Georgia's is rough
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:45 PM
Feb 2022

That's Aubery's one murder tried to enter a plea deal- it would have taken him out of the Georgia prison system.

Dan

(3,554 posts)
38. There are different standards of prison care, based on the State where you are imprisoned.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:48 PM
Feb 2022

Southern care, prison care is probably pretty bad.

But, maybe Trump might end up on a chain gang.

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
53. Pretty sure chain gangs don't exist anymore.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 08:30 PM
Feb 2022

But there are other forms of prison slave labor. Maybe he could make license plates.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
5. Many thanks for this great summation/recap, fightfor!!
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:54 AM
Feb 2022

Also, I totally didn’t know about Meadows’ *major* role in this travesty — he’s a very special kind of craven sad sack, and thanks to this post, I now have a better idea of how scared and paralyzed this pitiful little scumbucket must be every second/every day, and I am LOVIN IT!!!



NJCher

(35,662 posts)
62. how scared and paralyzed
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 09:22 AM
Feb 2022

I like to think of them as I sink into my comfy, warm, cozy bed at night. I think how nice it is that I can get up the next day and do what I want to. I don’t have to be flying around to meet with investigators whose questioning might put me in a cell with five other other people and with only an inch thick mattress in which to sleep.

The truth of the matter is that their every day and night is a living hell for them. Their hopes for an end to the threat via a Republican victory in the senate and house means little when there are looming state prosecutions.

RID. Rest in distress.

GB_RN

(2,350 posts)
7. It's Been Pointed Out Elsewhere That Not Only Does Meadows Have Legal Exposure...
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:17 AM
Feb 2022

But so does "Lying Lindsey" Graham (R-Fabulous!) for his illegal phone call to Georgia's Secretary of State, Brad "I Suppress the Black Vote" Raffensperger (R-Not A Hero).

NoMoreRepugs

(9,417 posts)
9. The amount of wood being added daily to the SlobFather's bonfire is incredible. This pursuit for
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:20 AM
Feb 2022

justice isn't going away UNLESS the Reputinicans can steal every branch of the government, that concerns me.

Glorfindel

(9,729 posts)
13. I have almost reached the point where I agree with George Bernard Shaw
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:34 AM
Feb 2022

"kill the apostrophe." It is pretty much always misused nowadays.

https://www.killtheapostrophe.com/






Response to Glorfindel (Reply #13)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. It grates on me over and over in that OP.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:36 AM
Feb 2022

I tried to restrain myself, but here I am, agreeing with you.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
22. Thank you!
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:55 AM
Feb 2022

To be fair though, some stupid spell-check programs do that. They also cannot distinguish between words such as well and we'll, I'll and ill, etc. Stupid programs.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
59. Yes, my autocorrect makes more mistakes
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 07:44 AM
Feb 2022

than I do in my original text. Sometimes it connects two words next to each other to make a new word that is meaningless in context.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
28. Agreed.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:21 PM
Feb 2022

The difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit matters. Fani knows her shit, and Mark Meadow, you're a shit.

CNN's Sara Murray looks at Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani T. Willis' probe investigating Donald Trump's efforts to overturn Georgia's election results.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
40. I hope you are not offended, don't lawyer up, no need to...
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 01:19 PM
Feb 2022

I don't write very well, so I am not someone who can teach anyone how to be a good writer, it was just an observation, maybe because it was used so many times that it caught the Felix Unger in us...

And as I said, it was a great post, your observations on Meadows' conduct is right on target.

ECL213

(212 posts)
64. s'hame, s'hame, s'hame
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 10:35 AM
Feb 2022

I was just making a joke. I assumed it was a spell-check error. It always insists I'm trying to say He'll, and it drives me crazy.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
39. I am glad I was not the only one bothered by the misuse of the apostrophe.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 01:14 PM
Feb 2022

Meadows...

I felt like Felix Unger (The Odd Couple) there for a moment...

Having said all that, the post is excellent...

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
18. So Meadows you intentionally made trying to be a shake down artist for your criminal boss
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:43 AM
Feb 2022

to eventually use your tactic to blackmail the voters of Georgia...that kicked your boss ass down the street and elected two men to be senators....and some food for thought Meadows you and your gang should think of this law for bed time stories...here I will make it real simple.....Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO)


https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/content/rico-act.html

Manfred Arcane

(59 posts)
19. And there's this call to GA investigator Frances Watson...
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:43 AM
Feb 2022
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/president-donald-trump-called-state-investigator-and-urged-her-to-find-fraudulent-votes

Frances Watson is not an elected official, just a GA state employee. I've long wondered how Trump even got her phone number. But now it is clear that Meadows met with Frances Watson on Dec. 22nd in GA the day before this phone call occurred.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
23. That is correct.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:03 PM
Feb 2022

All of these phone calls, meetings, will be investigated by the special grand jury. The AG in Georgia has a very good case. The evidence is documented, recorded, can be easily verified through witnesses testimony. You do not have to be Columbo to figure this case out.

badgolfer

(244 posts)
21. Freedom Caucus
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:48 AM
Feb 2022

The Freedom Caucus was formed by Meadows, Jordan, and Gov DeSantis to stymie Obama's agenda.

I'm betting these three are major forces behind the January 6 insurrection.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
54. Investigations like this take a long time.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 08:34 PM
Feb 2022

Garland is very secretive and he doesn't appear on TV too often. That's testing our patience. We don't know what's going on. I feel your agony, believe me. We have no choice but to be patient.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
34. They also have tape of TFG telling the counsel for Georgia's Sec. of State:
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:36 PM
Feb 2022

TFG, "Big things are going to be happening on January 6th."

Does Fani look like she is playing around?

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
46. My Question...
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:13 PM
Feb 2022

This phone call where DT said on tape that he needed 11,780 votes happened over a year ago.... yet a grand jury cannot be empaneled until... May?

Its easy to think that several actionable items of law enforcement by several agencies are being slow walked either avoid being the 1st one to take action against DT and face the mean statements that would naturally follow or in hopes that the J6 committee does it 1st...

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
65. Turns my stomach knowing that this battle ramming process goes on at the local
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 11:15 AM
Feb 2022

and state level for the kind of things that are supported by the private business organizations.

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