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marmar

(77,077 posts)
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:14 PM Feb 2022

British passenger arrested on suspicion of raping woman in business class on US flight to Heathrow


A British man has been arrested on suspicion of raping a passenger on a flight from the US to Heathrow.

Officers boarded the United Airlines flight at Heathrow airport after being alerted to the incident just after 6:30am on Monday 31, January.

A 40-year-old woman, also British, reportedly complained to United Airlines cabin staff on the New Jersey to Heathrow flight after she was allegedly forced to have sex in business class while others were asleep. ...............(more)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/united-airlines-flight-rape-business-class-b2010962.html




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British passenger arrested on suspicion of raping woman in business class on US flight to Heathrow (Original Post) marmar Feb 2022 OP
Andrew? lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #1
He likes them much younger n/t malaise Feb 2022 #5
K&R! nt Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #2
? milestogo Feb 2022 #4
What is it you don't get about recommending an article? nt Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #6
I don't get recommending a rape. milestogo Feb 2022 #13
Oh, I see. You're having an argument with yourself. Carry on. nt Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #14
The rec is for the article, not the rape. marmar Feb 2022 #15
Next time I'll have to write "K&R for visibility (Disclaimer: I am kicking and recommending this Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #17
Recs are for the post, not for the act. Duh. You never rec'ed an article about a tRump atrocity? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #21
I can't imagine anyone doing such a stupid thing. MineralMan Feb 2022 #3
People do stupid things all the time. COL Mustard Feb 2022 #16
How is this even possible. zaj Feb 2022 #7
Business Class Seating unweird Feb 2022 #9
I've flown first class. How is it that she couldn't have yelled for cabin crew? Or pressed the call BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #8
Any number of reasons. She may not have felt safe doing so. People are conditioned to not WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #10
Yes, I can imagine some of that. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #25
Maybe she could. Or couldn't. Victims remaining mostly silent Hortensis Feb 2022 #18
Business class is certainly more private than economy, but it's still strange that this Dial H For Hero Feb 2022 #11
They may have thought it was consensual. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #12
Flight attendants see lots of things. MineralMan Feb 2022 #20
Masks enid602 Feb 2022 #19
Where were the flight attendents? iemanja Feb 2022 #22
They may have thought it was consensual. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #23
On a long flight TuxedoKat Feb 2022 #24

Carlitos Brigante

(26,500 posts)
17. Next time I'll have to write "K&R for visibility (Disclaimer: I am kicking and recommending this
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:31 PM
Feb 2022

article so people can notice it more. I am in no way a supporter of (fill in the blank___________ voter suppression, corruption, racism, murder.......)."

Maybe that'll do it

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
3. I can't imagine anyone doing such a stupid thing.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:16 PM
Feb 2022

Truly I cannot. That doesn't mean that I don't believe it happened, of course. It's a lot of really stupid people out there.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
16. People do stupid things all the time.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:29 PM
Feb 2022

They think they're too smart to get caught. Or they don't care if they get caught.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
7. How is this even possible.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:20 PM
Feb 2022

I mean, I completely believe her and support her ❤️🤗.

But the last place in can imagine anyone would try to rape anyone is in a crowded airplane. I can't even imagine how that can happen.

Crazy and awful.

unweird

(2,535 posts)
9. Business Class Seating
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:23 PM
Feb 2022

Includes lie-flat seats usually for long flights. They are fairly isolated from each other and afford a certain amount of privacy.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
8. I've flown first class. How is it that she couldn't have yelled for cabin crew? Or pressed the call
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:21 PM
Feb 2022

button?

Perhaps more information will be provided. Rather shocking to think something like that could happen aboard an aircraft.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
10. Any number of reasons. She may not have felt safe doing so. People are conditioned to not
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:24 PM
Feb 2022

make a fuss. The two of them had reportedly been seen drinking together in the lounge earlier in the evening; she may have thought no one would believe her in the moment. It may have started as a consensual act, then something changed, making it difficult to know how to react. She may have been so drunk that she couldn't figure out what to do next.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
25. Yes, I can imagine some of that.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 02:13 PM
Feb 2022

It’s just that the flight attendants are pretty attentive in both business and first.

Amazing they wouldn’t notice. And if I were a fellow passenger, consensual or not, I’d object to that going on near me.

Maybe a near empty flight.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Maybe she could. Or couldn't. Victims remaining mostly silent
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:36 PM
Feb 2022

during rape happens for a variety of reasons and is not uncommon. Shocking, all right. Bad things aren't supposed to happen in society's safe places. Hopefully investigation will produce good evidence one way or another.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
11. Business class is certainly more private than economy, but it's still strange that this
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:24 PM
Feb 2022

happened without the flight attendants noticing. Even while the passengers are asleep, they go up and down the aisles on a fairly regular basis.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
20. Flight attendants see lots of things.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 12:39 PM
Feb 2022

People do have sex on airline flights. It's not really that uncommon, especially at night on redeye flights. Often, flight attendants will just look the other way, rather than causing a scene, I think.

I'd think, though, if someone was loudly objecting to some sexual activity, a flight attendant would have something to say about it.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
24. On a long flight
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 01:25 PM
Feb 2022

after all service is done, FA's will sit down and take a break and/or eat a meal. The man probably committed his crime then.

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