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Behind the Aegis

(53,919 posts)
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 04:35 PM Feb 2022

Jewish student reprimanded for revealing class' Nazi salute

A Jewish high school student said he couldn't believe what was going on when a history teacher in a wealthy Alabama school system had classmates stand and give a stiff-armed Nazi salute during a lesson on the way symbols change.

Once he shared a video and photos of the incident on social media, Ephraim Tytell said, he received a reprimand from school administrators in Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham.

“They proceeded to tell me that I’m making Mountain Brook look bad for uploading the video and sharing it and asked me to apologize to my teacher, which I refused to,” he told WIAT-TV. “The day after, he made our class, and our class only, put up our phones and he moved me from sitting in the back of the class to right next to him.”

First reported by the Birmingham-based Southern Jewish Life, the incident last month gained traction on social media. On Tuesday, the school system issued a statement saying the video and photos shared online “are not representative of the lesson” and no one tried to teach students how to do a Nazi salute.

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But, but, but....NAKED MICE!

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Jewish student reprimanded for revealing class' Nazi salute (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Feb 2022 OP
Another case of... lame54 Feb 2022 #1
The shameful gaslighting JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #3
But but naked mice JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #2
K&R! nt Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #4
This one picture sarisataka Feb 2022 #5
EXACTLY! Behind the Aegis Feb 2022 #7
I was remembering a different but similar picture I had seen and was thinking the same about it. Gore1FL Feb 2022 #17
Our national regression is so disturbing tishaLA Feb 2022 #6
Hubby and I were talking about regression this morning, but Ilsa Feb 2022 #11
The student made them look bad by exposing their actions? Chainfire Feb 2022 #8
I wonder when the ADL will get involved? LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #9
Soon, one would hope Hekate Feb 2022 #18
Society has no problem making kids's selves feel bad sanatanadharma Feb 2022 #10
I noticed that too... yardwork Feb 2022 #20
This student has a six figure lawsuit Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #12
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2022 #13
the same school district cab67 Feb 2022 #14
Well that says a lot doesn't it? Behind the Aegis Feb 2022 #21
Make them look bad? Now they look 100 times worse. paleotn Feb 2022 #15
Poor reporting by AP LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #16
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #19

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
2. But but naked mice
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 04:40 PM
Feb 2022

And this is PRECISELY why Maus needs to be taught in classrooms and made available to students in libraries.

sarisataka

(18,482 posts)
5. This one picture
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 04:48 PM
Feb 2022

Conveys more information than that "lesson"



Does the teacher plan to inform the kids about D-Day by having them crawl across the football field while spraying it with machine-gun fire?

Behind the Aegis

(53,919 posts)
7. EXACTLY!
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 04:52 PM
Feb 2022

Assuming that asshole even teaches about slavery, I am scared what "first person immersion" entails.

Gore1FL

(21,097 posts)
17. I was remembering a different but similar picture I had seen and was thinking the same about it.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 08:47 PM
Feb 2022

I saw your post, and it's perfect.

There is nothing wrong with talking about how perfectly OK symbols and words have been adopted and permanently redefined. That kind of lesson may do a lot of good in AL. But the approach re-enacting what society now finds offensive does little to aid that lesson and more to normalize that which has been rejected.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
6. Our national regression is so disturbing
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 04:52 PM
Feb 2022

I know we've always had a huge number of racists, but they used to usually have the good sense to hide it from polite company and apologize when decent people caught them and called them out. Now the victims of racists are reprimanded for exposing it. Its absurd.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
11. Hubby and I were talking about regression this morning, but
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:53 PM
Feb 2022

specifically on lack of appreciation by many younger adults for American values. Not nasty nationalism, but simply being ignorant about what truly makes the USA great: freedom of speech, separation of church and state, being a "melting pot" instead of racist, etc.There are very few places in the world for which I'd give up my US citizenship.

Chainfire

(17,467 posts)
8. The student made them look bad by exposing their actions?
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:06 PM
Feb 2022

It sounds like some school system needs to be taking a good look at itself. A good philosophy is don't do things that make you look bad if your are outted...

The teacher was either a Nazi or an idiot. Which do you want teaching your kids? It looks like his bosses doubled-down on the clown's actions by attempting to punish the student.


Hekate

(90,550 posts)
18. Soon, one would hope
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 08:51 PM
Feb 2022

I thought politicians and parents in red states wanted cameras in classrooms in case teachers offended them?


sanatanadharma

(3,687 posts)
10. Society has no problem making kids's selves feel bad
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 05:25 PM
Feb 2022

Black, poor, female, Mexican, gay--- one's neighbors and society often teach and reinforce the idea that 'you are bad for having those feelings' or not trying hard enough or you are less worthy because of the wrappers of skin and nationalities.

A sane society should make people discomforted when they express affinity for racism, naxism, etc.

cab67

(2,990 posts)
14. the same school district
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 07:15 PM
Feb 2022

decided to work with the Anti-Defamation League after students were caught drawing swastikas on themselves.

That lasted until parents in the district complained that the ADL program was too liberal.

That such a community exists so close to one of the epicenters of the modern civil rights movement is jarring, to say the least.


https://www.al.com/news/2021/06/mountain-brook-backtracks-on-anti-bias-training-after-parent-criticism-links-to-critical-race-theory.html

Behind the Aegis

(53,919 posts)
21. Well that says a lot doesn't it?
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:16 AM
Feb 2022

Sounds as if this school has been down this road before which begs the question; how many incidents have occurred that WERE NOT reported?!

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