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DOJ now has 3 criminal referrals (Original Post) gab13by13 Feb 2022 OP
Probably not. former9thward Feb 2022 #1
I'm pretty sure that Garland will make the call on all 3 of them. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #2
You are probably right but I have little faith he will do so OnDoutside Feb 2022 #4
only if they get to him or he requests updates.... getagrip_already Feb 2022 #6
Maybe #1 and I think that call has been made. former9thward Feb 2022 #7
Trump stole truckloads including classified documents. Kingofalldems Feb 2022 #14
You have your predictions and I have mine. former9thward Feb 2022 #22
No, Garland won't interfere with USAs doing their jobs. Bill Barr however did. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #16
On someone like me? The AG would never get involved. COL Mustard Feb 2022 #11
Did you forget how many people the GOP referred to the DOJ from 2017-2020? WarGamer Feb 2022 #3
Maybe because the GQP referrals were bogus. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #5
Manafort was prosecuted by DOJ. blm Feb 2022 #9
Yes. Kingofalldems Feb 2022 #13
A whole batch of #FailedCoupGuy's inner circle were. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #18
Should we give up? Kingofalldems Feb 2022 #12
And number -0- . . .. Lovie777 Feb 2022 #8
56 Days... NT. Snackshack Feb 2022 #10
Garland doesn't need to wait for criminals referrals DeeDeeNY Feb 2022 #15
If Garland plays his cards right, he can sit on his hands until the Republikkkans control congress Orrex Feb 2022 #17
It doesn't matter who controls Congress for the DOJ to act Poiuyt Feb 2022 #21
About that... Orrex Feb 2022 #23
On that, I agree with you 100% Poiuyt Feb 2022 #25
The latest news from The National Archives, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #19
bFD indeed....hopefully kind of like tax evasion bringing Capone down... bahboo Feb 2022 #20
At the rate we're going, he'll get an informal note gently asking him not to insurrection again. Orrex Feb 2022 #24

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
6. only if they get to him or he requests updates....
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 08:20 PM
Feb 2022

Like congress, the doj can bottle up investigations at lower levels. They don't go upwards until a charging/declination decision is reached. And that only happens if the investigators do their jobs.

It may eventually get to the point of a bullet item in a staff meeting, but not before it's baked. And sometimes the chef's don't put them in the ovens very quickly.

Bureaucracy thrives at justice.

Now I'm sure he asks for regular updates on any tfg related investigations. At least I'm hoping he does.



former9thward

(31,981 posts)
7. Maybe #1 and I think that call has been made.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 08:20 PM
Feb 2022

But not #2 or #3. #3 will go nowhere. The last time it came up was when Sandy Berger stole documents from the National Archives reading room ("I forgot I put them in my socks&quot . He received a fine.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
16. No, Garland won't interfere with USAs doing their jobs. Bill Barr however did.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:28 PM
Feb 2022

And, if you were paying attention, that was not a good thing.

These referrals go to MI and DC USAs, and the DoJ Deputy Director is in charge of criminal matters.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
11. On someone like me? The AG would never get involved.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 09:53 PM
Feb 2022

On a former POTUS? You better believe he'll make the final call.

WarGamer

(12,436 posts)
3. Did you forget how many people the GOP referred to the DOJ from 2017-2020?
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 08:17 PM
Feb 2022

And nothing came from any of it.

I think it started with Christopher Steele and others in the Russia investigation.

blm

(113,043 posts)
9. Manafort was prosecuted by DOJ.
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 08:55 PM
Feb 2022

So was Mike Flynn.

Remember? The cases were started before Barr stepped in.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
17. If Garland plays his cards right, he can sit on his hands until the Republikkkans control congress
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:32 PM
Feb 2022

Waiting for the stalwart defenders of The System to scold me for my lack of faith in 3...

2...

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
21. It doesn't matter who controls Congress for the DOJ to act
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 11:00 PM
Feb 2022

They can act on their own as long as Biden is in office.

Congressional investigations are a different matter.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
23. About that...
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 12:23 AM
Feb 2022

When I have expressed doubt that The System is working steadily toward justice, I've been assured that Garland is waiting to act until the congressional investigation is completed.

That assurance is offered as a statement of faith with little or no supporting evidence, and as you note the congressional investigation will disappear instantly if Repugs take congress, even if they take it through the very same criminal shenanigans that the current congress is slowly investigating.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
25. On that, I agree with you 100%
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 12:44 AM
Feb 2022

I also have doubts that The System, as you call it, is working steadily towards justice. I think we're seeing a new, unwritten policy that former presidents are above the law.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
19. The latest news from The National Archives,
Wed Feb 9, 2022, 10:48 PM
Feb 2022

a former counselor for president Obama said tonight, the National Archives recovered 15 boxes of documents. She then went on to say, the implication is, that's not all of the stolen documents, there are more that are not recovered.

Also there is an indication that some of the documents were classified. What am I missing here? To me that is a BFD, punishable up to 20 years in jail.

DOJ needs to take this investigation it could very well be the one to bring Trump down.

Please folks, let's not refer to the letters from Kim as love letters, that is right wing propaganda. letters from foreign leaders are matters of national security that the incoming president needs to be aware of. Stop calling them Kim love letters.

Lock him up.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
24. At the rate we're going, he'll get an informal note gently asking him not to insurrection again.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 12:28 AM
Feb 2022
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